The Alabama Senate Race - ? Dead heat

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   jackclee lmposted 6 years ago

   Who will come up on top?
   Is this the end of the GOP senate majority?
   Who is to blame for this situation?

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      jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Fox news just called the race for Jones.
      This was the biggest mistake by the Trump administration.
      It started with the appointment of Jeff Session to the Attorney General.
      This freed up this Senate seat which was a close majority for the GOP.
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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Oh how about the  GOP themselves , the obstructionist left , the hypocrisy  of women's rights issues today ?   So much for any kind of a true investigations of justice system results .

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         Paul Winngertposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         

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            PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I laughed. I am a bad, bad person

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Pretty panther ,As is so typical these days , all one has to do is use facts in debate and the left snivels away in a rant of name calling .
               So very typical .

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                  PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I would be very interested in hearing the "fact" of how the Clintons are guilty of treason. You stated that in another thread and I asked for specifics. I am all ears.

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                     ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Mueller's not done yet , Is he ?
                     
                     If the Clinton's aren't guilty of treason , then no one ever should be .
                     If the left see's it in Trump , they [you]don't know what treason  even is .

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                        PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        I have never said I see treason in Trump's actions. Never.
                        
                        What actions have the Clintons taken that you construe to be treason?

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                           ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Unfinished Mueller investigations--- election collusion  with  "dossier" purchase / use , D.N.C. political rigging / financing ,  uranium one sales to Russia , sale of cruise missile tech to China , tarmac meetings with Lynch ,Obama 's Trump campaign spying  ,you know all the issues ?
                           
                           Even if you disagree with the above  totally , you and many here still loudly HARP about  unlimited and baseless allegations against Trump in a short ONE YEAR in office  , yet totally ignore a decades long history of the allegations  against the Clinton's .
                           
                           And !  The allegations during the Obama terms of open  scandals in the IRS , D.O.J. ,FBI .
                           DNC or DNHOC  ?
                           Democratic Nation Harping Obstruction Committee

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                              PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Okay, remember, you are talking to me, prettypanther, not "the left."
                              
                              First, it sounds like you are saying we should wait and see what the Mueller investigation uncovers. On this we agree. That is why I have never made a pronouncement of guilt or innocence of Trump or anyone else in the investigation.
                              
                              Second, have you ever seen me personally "loudly HARP about  unlimited and baseless allegations against Trump"? If so, I'd like to see it. I believe I have wondered why there is so much lying and why so many changing stories, but I have never stated that Trump is guilty of any crime, and I have repeatedly stated we must let the investigation play out to find the truth. Do you acknowledge this to be accurate?
                              
                              Last, I have also clearly stated that if he Clintons have committed crimes, I hope they will be investigated and charged.
                              
                              So, will you make an effort to talk to me, prettypanther, instead of " the left."? Will you, in these forums respond to my points and not just automatically call me naive, immature, or childish by lumping me into your "leftist" box?
                              
                              Will you do this, or are you interested in doing this?

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                                 ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 PP.  First , I have seen your written  glee  , high fiving and  group thought here as much as anyone's  , please don't assume the high horse, I also have enough political intuition to recognize the well uniformed left  , the one's who group-think , respond in ideological  political issues like groupers around a shark .  I'm am not twenty three I'm sixty three .
                                 
                                 Now if you want to discuss this issue ?-- I'm saying I believe  the left has a LOT more to lose in the expanding Mueller probes OR the probes themselves are polluted , frankly than  even Trump does yet you , like so many others here ,  think that the partisanship , loud  ,repetitive , overused ,accusatory and even personal attacks against Trump  will win the field ?
                                 Trump, has been around politically ,less than a year.
                                 Clinton ,three decades and more .
                                 Who has the most to lose?

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                                    PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                    Simple question. What, specifically, do you believe the Clintons have done that constitutes treason? You listed some vague "issues" but didn't identify how any of them could be viewed as treason.

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                                       ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                       If my "vague " point's are in the Mueller investigative process , I'm happy .   IF the Mueller lawyers team is so  ideologically polluted  as to have donated  $63,000  individually to Clinton and  $2,700 to republicans ,  Then the entire process is already compromised and should be ended.
                                       And Trump should fire them .
                                       
                                       Why do you ignore the bias? 
                                       
                                       Treason ?
                                       -Uranium One for Clinton foundation $ first and foremost.
                                       -Missile technology to Chinese military for foundation $ .
                                       -The Dossier ,$  from the Brits - from Russians admittedly, for three.
                                       -The Clinton Foundation alone for four.

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                                          PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                          Okay, let's take just one of those. Please connect the dots for me. After all, I have the mind of a child.
                                          
                                          How about this one:  "from Russians admittedly, for three." Please explain to me what the Clinton's did, exactly, with regard to this issue you stated, that constitutes treason. You said they are guilty of treason. I want to know exactly what they did.

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                                             ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                             All of a sudden you're Clintons defense lawyer ? On the other hand you "wear the uniform "well , 
                                             I have said many times . I'm not your secretary , read your own news.

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                                                PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                                I tried.

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                                                   ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                                   "You tried "and still can't see the imbalance ?

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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It's pretty much the way it always goes , A Democratic white house ?  A Republican house and senate .  A Republican white house  , the  congress or house goes Democrat . Is it true only 25 % of eligable voters voted in Al.?
      I do believe the embedded establishment plays to win .
      
      Drain the swamp.

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      Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What was that I told you earlier, Jack?
      Do you recall?
      
      I said that Moore would get his A$$ whipped and that the resurgence of the Dems could well be in the waiting.
      
      I also told you one less GOP vote is always good, retarding the Trump juggernaut just that much more?
      African-Americans in Alabama made me proud today by coming out to vote in overwhelming numbers to help send Moore packing.
      
      Could it be that the tide will turn against Trump and his scurvy crew?

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         jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         And who will be hurt by it if Trump failed to MAGA? You and me...
         I don’t know about you but so far, in the one year of the Trump admin., my family assets have grown by nearly 20%. America is on the mend and Democrats are trying to stop it.

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   Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

   Congrats to Jones on his great win In Alabama. And "you get what you deserve for backing Moore" to his fans.

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Trump and his supporters hitched their already tainted reputation to an alleged child molester. Glad it didn't work out for them.

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         Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         This is only the beginning, Pretty. Wait until Mueller gets a little further in his investigations.

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            ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Mueller , If Trump had any sense Mueller would probably be fired . I can tell you this , nobody on the right has any confidence whatsoever in the departments of the federal government, especially the D.O.J. 
            It is so loaded down with organized Obama holdovers and needs a drastic cleansing .
            
            Mueller should recuse himself and go home ,  no ones going to believe the outcome  anyway,  his reputation is already as bad as his corrupted friend Comeys, his investigators  are as crooked as a Clinton .

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         jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Don’t be too happy.
         If it can happen to Moore, no one is safe from allegations...
         This is going to be the new model for dirty politics...
         Make charges first, ask questions later and the law and justice be damned...
         No one is safe, even women politicians better be prepared for dirty politics...
         A sad day for America.

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            PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            We already lost two Democratic legislators to sexual abuse allegations. Good riddance.

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            Aime Fposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Oh please. It wasn’t the just the allegations that took him down. If the majority cared it wouldn’t have been that close in the first place. Not to mention y’all happily elected a man with sexual assault allegations as president.

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            Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Moore had already shown he was a dumbass, Jack. The pedophilia simply put the icing on the cake. As you and others said about the presidential election, "just get over it." 

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               Aime Fposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Yup. As far as I can tell there is a whole bag full of things not to like about the guy. To spin this into a “women are liars and can take you down, be careful blah blah” issue is... uh... well, not at all unexpected actually.

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   It's just time for the GOP to start playing as dirty as the democrats , that's all .
   Play dirty ; win big ............for now.

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   Rock_njposted 6 years ago

   You do know that Mueller is a Republican, right?  Why do you question his integrity?  He is not an ideologue with an agenda.  Some people actually believe in the rule of law and seeing that justice is served.  If Trump and his cohorts are innocent, then they will be cleared during this investigation and we can move on.  If not, perhaps they did something wrong.  There certainly are a lot of indications of ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, including his son's meeting at Trump tower with Russian operatives.  Trump had been making trips to Russia since the Soviet Union days in the 1980s.  During some of those times, he was going through one of his bankruptcies.  Putting 2+2 together, it appears the Russians lent him money to bail him out and/or have some kind of damaging information about him.  Perhaps we'll never know the truth.

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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      That's a cute little fairy tale .    Another conspiracy theorist ,  Mueller may call himself a republican if he wants ,  Comey called himself a dedicated FBI leader too, The special investigators are so special they can't even separate themselves from texting to Hilary about the victory party night even now , huh ?
      
      This is your embedded establishment government ,not mine.

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      Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Rock, don't try to match wits with the witless.

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   Paul Winngertposted 6 years ago

   Pedophile Moore lost! Good! Anything that tells the orange POS and the Christian fundamentalists to go f*ck themselves is okay with me.

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      jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Nice...So much for civility.

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         PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         A Trump defender cannot legitimately request civility from anyone, given the character and behavior of the unfit bully they defend.

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            jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            So that’s your answer. Did you make the same claim when Hillary bullied Bill’s women?
            Or is this a sexist thing...

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               PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Right. What does Hillary have to do with your request for civility from Paul?
               
               I'm not requesting civility from anyone. That ship sailed when my fellow Americans voted in a guy who brags about grabbing pussy.

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   crankaliciousposted 6 years ago

   How much did your family assets grow under Obama?

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Ask how much they shrank.

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         jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         My warning to everyone going forward...
         This election has demonstrated a path to victory for any candidate...
         All you need to do is to buy someone to make false charges against your opponent, 1 month before an election, plant some doubts in the mind of the voter, and you can win...
         I can see this formulate being used again and again from both parties...
         Win at all cost.

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            ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Jack , We see it more from the left , In this order of attack;
            1-Sexual assault
            2-Racist
            3-Bigot
            4-Anti-immigrant
            5-Capitalism lover
            6-Anti-education
            7 Gun- lover
            And in the above order ,  What has the democratic party delivered in any political victory to women , minorities ,  , immigrants , the poor or the uneducated ?

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