U.S Government SHUTDOWN threats

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  1. RJ Schwartz profile image91
    RJ Schwartzposted 9 months ago

    I'm tired of hearing about a Government shutdown just to save the non-existent rights of Illegal Aliens

    I'm tired of officials who were elected to represent Americans putting the interests of non-citizens ahead of citizens

    I'm tired of listening to the media praise the "valiant efforts" of these traitorous individuals who think they decide on how to enforce immigration laws

    Even on the remote chance the government does "shut down" we all know its a meaningless gesture

    The President should sign an EO that says in the event of a shutdown to the inactions of Congress, all salaries will be immediately be suspended with NO back pay once its resolved.  All offices of elected officials MUST be closed and no staff can be paid or compensated in any way.  All courts will be closed as well as the post office, and any other government funded location - all with no pay.  These people were elected to do a job, and they need to find a way to negotiate a solution without these threats.

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Don't know that I would shut down the military, TSA, coast guard or other security functions.  But certainly all federal courts and absolutely all of congress.  They can work for free until they get the job done and can pay their staff out of their own pocket while they do it.

      Either do your job or get out of town.

    2. promisem profile image96
      promisemposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Please help me understand how Congress and the White House can shut down the government when they are under the complete control of one political party.

      1. wilderness profile image98
        wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Watch and see.  One states minority party accomplished it by leaving the state so there wouldn't be the necessary quorum for a vote.

        1. promisem profile image96
          promisemposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          What I have read repeatedly is that the so-called Freedom Caucus wing of the Republican Party won't go along with the rest of the party.

          If they did, the House would have enough votes to pass a spending bill.

          1. wilderness profile image98
            wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Senate needs 60 votes and has only 51 Republicans (2 of which have said they won't vote for it).  And it takes both houses to approve any bill.

            1. promisem profile image96
              promisemposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Yes, I see you are correct about the Senate.

              It's also worth pointing out that Senate Republicans and Democrats worked out a bipartisan deal to avoid the shutdown. Trump rejected it.

              That's one reason why some Republicans said they are voting in favor of a shutdown.

              It's more proof that compromise by both parties is necessary to get things done in Washington.

              It will be the first shutdown in U.S. history in which one party controls the White House, Senate and House of Representatives.

              1. wilderness profile image98
                wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Admittedly I haven't followed the details as much as I could have.  But wasn't that "bipartisan deal" simply to fund govt. for another couple of weeks without ever addressing immigration?  Whereupon we can do it all over again in a few days.

  2. Randy Godwin profile image92
    Randy Godwinposted 9 months ago

    Didn't the Right do the same thing back in 2013?  What goes around.........  smile

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      A good excuse for continuing the madness, isn't it?  "Well they did it so I'll do it, too!  It takes remarkable intelligence to see something stupid and wrong and then repeat it because "They did it to me!" - it's what I hear from my younger grandchildren when they get to squabbling.

      1. gregas profile image82
        gregasposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        That's the children in politics. I said it back then when Boehner did the same thing. You play my way or we don't play. In my hub. They will never grow up and we just keep voting for the same children.

      2. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Yet, many times when we criticize Trump you guys say" Well Hillary did this and Obama did that". You can't have it both ways as I was trying to point out with my comment.

        1. wilderness profile image98
          wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          You're comparing the reactions of a population to perceived wrong doing and politicians actually doing something stupid? 

          What is the connection?  Or is it just apples and oranges with a side blow at those that disagree with you?

          1. Randy Godwin profile image92
            Randy Godwinposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            A side blow at those who disagree with me, of course. tongue

    2. RJ Schwartz profile image91
      RJ Schwartzposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I didn't agree with it then and I don't agree with it now, regardless of which party is pulling the strings

      1. gregas profile image82
        gregasposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I didn't/don't either RJ.

      2. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Remember when Obama couldn't even get a Supreme Court nominee up for a vote because the Cons controlled congress? Payback is hell as  you may know. The party of NO is on the other side now guys. And it will be even more so after the mid terms. What goes around....

        1. Credence2 profile image79
          Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I say to the rightwinger and GOP controlled Congress, "too bad". The stupid GOP should have realized that there would be a penalty for their obstruction during the Obama Administration. Why should I forgive? The Right should have thought about that before...

          You can bet your bottom dollar that the GOP will be blamed for whoever has their salaries and benefits curtailed, and that is great!

          1. wilderness profile image98
            wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Same comment as before:
            https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/144 … ost2937562

            The intelligence exhibited by such childish behavior is astounding.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image92
              Randy Godwinposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Tell that to your party, Dan. smile

              1. gregas profile image82
                gregasposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Both parties.

                1. Randy Godwin profile image92
                  Randy Godwinposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Do you expect the Dems to give the Cons a break after preventing Obama his Supreme Court nomination?  Dream on, Trumpsters. Did y'all hear about the transcript released by the House Intel committee today? Money laundering is a possibility between the Trump organization and the Russians. The stench is great...     lol

                  1. Live to Learn profile image78
                    Live to Learnposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    The Peewee Herman approach again? It's on the same maturity level as Congress is showing.

                    Tit for tat only emboldens the populace to be more and more anti Washington. You see what that got us in the last election?

                  2. wilderness profile image98
                    wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    I don't expect it at all.  But it would be really, really nice to see congress doing it's job instead of fighting in the sandbox.

  3. PrettyPanther profile image86
    PrettyPantherposted 9 months ago

    For the record, I want them to work together and get it done. The compromise was worked out but squashed by the administration. So much for Trump's deal masking skills. "I make the best deals"

    What a clown.

  4. Credence2 profile image79
    Credence2posted 9 months ago

    Seriously, folks, it just seem like we talk about Congress acting like grown ups only when it is the democrats that are to make concessions, where were all of you conservative types when this was going on during Obama's administration from the Republican side? Not a peep? Right? That makes me pretty angry as YOU people have no right to speak at all. Do you not see the hypocrisy of your viewpoints?

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Speak for yourself: I haven't seen anyone saying the R's have the right to shut down the govt., that they should or that it was OK when they did it. 

      I just see the left saying it's great that they can get revenge by causing harm to the country and the people.  Perhaps we should expect lawmakers to play stupid games when their constituency encourages it.

  5. Randy Godwin profile image92
    Randy Godwinposted 9 months ago

    I wondered when the bitching from the Right would start when the Left began giving them a taste of their own medicine. Now it's all "lets work together" and "please don't play dirty tricks like we did." Hilarious! lol

 
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