Hi. Do You really think global warming is a fraud?

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   days leaperposted 14 years ago

   Hi.  Do You really think global warming is a fraud?
   
   Thanks!  For your kind words.  (I haven't worked out how to make a formal profile thank you, yet.  It seems to appear sometimes and not others.  I will sort it eventually.  Best Wishes

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   Merlin Fraserposted 14 years ago

   What if it is  ?
   
   I tire of the ridiculous arguments on this subject and the non action from World Governments who feel their selfish short term interests are not served by an admission that the current trend of Global Warming might just be man-made.
   
   If we wait for definitive proof one way or another it may well prove to be too late to do anything.
   
   On the other hand I offer a slightly obvious but none the less logical way of viewing the problem.
   
   There are many people who, for one reason or another, are not convinced mankind is in anyway responsible for Global Warming and therefore see no reason whatsoever to change or amend their life style .   If they are wrong the situation will continue to get worse and may soon become irreversible !
   
   Alternatively, some of us actually believe that with a worldwide population approaching 7 Billion and the fact that we have been burning fossil fuel in increasing amounts over the past two hundred years that mankind is a major contributing factor to the current Global Warming trend and we should do everything within our power to reduce and even reverse the trend if we can.
   
   Here’s the logical part :
     If we follow my recommendations and actually try to do something  and it eventually turns out  we believers are wrong.... so what ?   At least in the short term we have done no additional harm.
   
   The same cannot be said on behalf of the ‘Do Nothing’ lobby  !

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   Daniel J. Neumannposted 14 years ago

   It isn't a fraud. Maybe some "solutions" may be, but the warming is happening now. Most of it, in the short term, has to do with Solar Cycle 24 (and the approaching solar max sometime late 2012, early 2013). That being said, in the last 100 years, we've doubled the amount of C02 in the atmosphere. Our oceans are dying due to acidification (like turning our seas into salty seltzer). Fossil fuels will, eventually, run out.
   
   It's time for new energy solutions. Corporations won't do it. Medium-sized companies (which are rare to find, these days) or the government might do it.
   
   As Merlin Fraser said, the price is clear and so is the payoff. It’s a win-win if we change to new energy sources: Either we’ll save the world, save our economy, or both.

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   Small town fellaposted 14 years ago

   While I do believe in the concept of global warming, I feel that it is a naturally occuring phenominon.  Just as the earth once cooled, it is also warming up.  Science tells us that the earth has a wabble of roughly 1.5 degrees every 150 years or so.  If you figure in this wabble a temperature change of 1 to 2 Celcius would be acceptable.

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   Sterling Carterposted 14 years ago

   I think global warming is a 2 fold phenomenon.
   
   A natural cyclic pattern and at least a bit of human induced increase in co2 gasses.
   
   Yes we are burning fossil fuels like never before. Then again there are more people than ever before as well.
   
   Of course there have always been volcanoes, forest fires, brush fires and people burning wood for fuel as well. Even though trees have been cut for eons and used for heating fuel, The burning frees stored carbon.
   
   Plus there where actually more large animals who also also produced co2 through exhalation and the added methane gas which is actually contributes more to warming than does co2.
   
   Bison come to mind right off. Just a couple hundred years ago there where more Bison east of the mighty Mississippi than there are Wildebeest in all of Africa today. 
   
   The problem is that yes I believe that we will run out of fossil fuels one day... Though I do not believe it will be anywhere in my lifetime and probably not in the life time of my yet to be born grandchildren.
   
   The problem is that the people who sell these products and have amassed a great fortune with them lobby and effective block any possible source that can render them jobless.
   
   Do some research on overunity engines. They are from all over the world. One such steam engine has been discovered right here in the USA, by accident and still it is suppressed from the general public.
   
   These engines produce more power than they consume!!!!!
   
   Do you get what that means?
   
   WE need to get MONEY out the the LAW makers agenda. And return to a government of the people, by the people, and for the people once again. Then at least things may change for the better of our country.
   
   Then maybe the world can follow.
   
   Just my 2 cents.

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   someonewhoknowsposted 14 years ago

   Well,there seems to be more wildfires in the news these days.Just recently in one of russia's major airports in moscow they had smoke from wildfires  choking passengers and city dwellers in moscow.California always seems to have the same problem more often then they used to have and they still don't seem to do anything any different than.they used to do.Out of sight out of mind.
   Then there is evidence of global flooding.China,Packistan,southern U.S.A.,Hati,etc.

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   Thesourceposted 14 years ago

   I have examined the scientific data and as scientist there is overwhelming data that global warming is here The rise in carbon dioxide emission began during the Industrial Revolution. We can get this evidence even today from ice-core samples within glaciers. Ice-cores traps valuable data on CO2 levels for over thousand or years. Here we see CO2 levels year by year for many thousands of years.
   
   It is a fact that carbon dioxide as a green-house gas will increase global temperatures
   
   Even if you don't understand this, you may have noted that large ice-sheets at the poles, that were there for thousands of years, are breaking away. Rising temperatures are allowing warmer parasite to infect trees in Alaska.  There is less ice in the poles now. Glacier in Montana is on the way out. Ice levels in the Himalaya have also fallen. Polar bear habitat is affected. And I could go on with more evidence.
   
   Of course our global temperature is the product of both natural and human actions. However, there is overwhelming evidence that human activity is the biggest contributor in the increase of CO2 level today.
   
   As a political observer, the reason for your doubt is probably caused by powerful political groups and industries who make their fortune by burning fossil fuel. Many industries are uncomfortable to adapt to new technologies that will prevent or lower CO2 emissions. This confusion you and others have about global warming is intentionally created by right wing factions of our society.
   
   When the brightest scientists sounded the alarm several years ago they were discredited by powerful groups. Politicians gave access to powerful lobbyist from the oil companies to alter the reports of these scientists.
   
   Hope this clears the air.

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   dallas93444posted 14 years ago

   See:
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Climate-Change- … -of-Nature

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   Goodpalposted 14 years ago

   If it is a fraud, it is happening right before our  eyes. Why are we not doing something fast about it?
   
   If it is not a fraud, we should be taking it seriously and doing something fast about it.
   
   Thanks for the post!

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    Wayne Brownposted 14 years ago

    You have two arguments going here that do not necessarily go hand in hand but work well for those who want everyone to buy the global warming theory.  First, the data on hand, both present and historical, is still a long stretch in terms of analyzing any factual trends toward globals warming. All it proves, at best, is there are some periods in time when there are diffentials in climatic performance.  So that premise in and of itself is using some flimsy statistics and sampling to prove what you want people to think. There are many scientist who hold this perspective but are unwilling to join the discussion for fear of losing their government grants on which they depend for their living and their research.  Now take that stretch and the premise and start the argument as to whether it is man-made or not is inevitably where the discussion heads.  Look, if I tell I don't buy the first premise, why would I want to even argue the second one?  But, that is the unspoken statement of those who want to prove it. If you argument about the "man-made" aspects, you must already accept the fact that it exists.  Those who buy the first, want you to accept the second regardless of how you feel about it and they also want you to accept the actions imposed to halt the man-made aspects.  VooDoo!  This of course translates to "cap and trade" which is nothing more than the opportunity for someone to get rich selling you carbon credits. Essentially you can continue to do what you are doing as long as you buy the credits to pay for your sinful ways. That should put a stop to this so-called "global warming".  By the way, you might want to get in touch with Al Gore and find out when those carbon credit his company plans to sell go on the market. WB

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    Larry Powellposted 14 years ago

    hi days leaper
    No, global warming (climate change) is definitely NOT a fraud. Almost all of the best climate scientists in the world agree, whille there are some significant regional variations, the mean temperature of the planet IS going up. But rising temperatures bring more than what one would expect  (melting ice caps and glaciers, resulting in rising sea levels, as well as drought and serious loss of food productivity and health risks due to heat stroke, etc,) they also mean more precipitation (heavy rain, hail, snow). That is because warm air is able to hold way more moisture than cold! The scientists have been telling us for years that global warming, (caused by our heavy burning of fossil fuels), will also bring more of these "severe weather events" (just look at the horrible flooding in Pakistan, heat wave and wild fires in Russia right now as examples),
    My advice would be, next time you hear form a "cliimate denier," one who hotly denies there is any such thing as climate change, or, if there is, it was NOT cause by us, to name his/her sources...i.e. what research is he/she using? And keep askiing until he/she either comes up with it or it is plain he/she has none!
    Only in this way can we overcome the dangerous opinions out there which have no  basis in fact, but which are putting up dangerous barriers to helping us solve what some people call the worst crisis of our time.
    www.pathslesstravelled.com

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