Govenrment controlled healthcare, how do we actually pay for it?

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   Sorry I misunderstood what you said.

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      A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I guess you did, that is nothing like what you want to twist my words into. She has no right to volunteer my income.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I didn't deliberately set out to twist your words.

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            A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Ok, no harm done. I have never put down Canadas health care because I don't know anything about it, other than its not free!

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   And I thought a lot of people voted for Obama because he was going to bring in health care?
   
   I didn't get into this fight until I kept reading people putting down our health care system...

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years ago

   oy!

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   C.J. Wrightposted 15 years ago

   Another point to consider. Over half of the largest Bio Tech companies in the world are from the US. Most of the other countries pay less for the same goods and services than we do here in the US.  The companies are making up for that loss of profit here at home.  In other words, Americans subsidise European Socialized medicine indirectly.  They would be in just as bad shape otherwise. Far and away the US leads the world in research and development. Only Germany and Japan even come close(note neither of them have a fully socialized/single payer healthcare system). Research cost money a lot of money. Then we have the FDA to make sure it is safe. American's bear that cost.  I wonder how many Europeans would be putting their noses in our business if they thought Universal Health Care might cost them money? In fact even if the Bio Tech firms just ate the loss, would they still have as much money for research and development?  People fail to understand the billions of dollars in scientific research required to make medical advances.

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      livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, and that's why I support a public option! You do realize our fragmented insurance industry is the reason Americans effectively subsidize drug development for the world, right?

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         C.J. Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         No, we screwed up the insurance industry with state mandates. We screwed up the insurance industry when we as the customer began to divorce ourselves completely from health care cost.

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            ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            One of the more sensible commercials I've seen about the health care debate would force doctors to publish what they charge for procedures.  This alone would moderate the costs of healthcare and bring sanity back to pricing.  It would also shed light on what the government pays for certain procedures for people on Medicare and Medicaid.  Since there's so much talk about transparency and openness in government, they should be jumping all over this one.  Instead we get a 1,000 page bill that even the legislators don't read.

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               rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Or won't read!

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                  ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Let's be fair.  A 1,000 page bill is impossible to read, interpret and live with.  Huge bills like that only serve to confuse the issue and allow people fighting it out in court to twist it to their point of view.  That was the reason behind the "You lie!" comment thrown at the President.  No law is truly in force until the courts rule on the constitutionality of that law.  But we have judges who have a tendency to rewrite the laws according to their whims, so it could very well be that illegals will be covered by the bill once it is "interpreted" by the courts.

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   Abs Machineposted 15 years ago

   in almost all modern countries there's a public healthcare - paid through taxes. For me it's amazing how the richest nation on Earth doesn't have a public health system and that there are so many people out there with no health insurance at all!

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Our literacy rate also lags behind much of the world. Could be a connection.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

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            sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            First I want to know who did the survey that said that. It's allways been a free country free to be successful and free to starve.

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