Why do some people take moral values as hate crimes?

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   ii3rittlesposted 12 years ago

   Why do some people take moral values as hate crimes?
   
   I ask because I do not believe it is morally right/natural for two men or two women to be together, YET some people say I hate gays/lesbians because of this and I DON'T! I simply don't agree with what they do. I don't agree with people who sleep with animals, drink alcohol or use drugs but that doesn't mean I hate them. Why do some people take moral values as hate crimes?

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   A hate crime is discriminating or inciting violence based on someones demographics or harmless actions.  So I am not sure who these "some people" are other than straw persons.

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      ii3rittlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      They "take" it as a hate crime.

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   Dubuquedogtrainerposted 12 years ago

   Because in this upside down world, the end times in which we now find ourselves, one is entitled to have an opinion about morals so long as it is not based on God's holy Word. What the world does not understand is that Christians do not hate sinners; they hate the sin.

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      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No the problem is you consider people loving each other and not hurting anyone a sin, that is wrong regardless of where you got it from, same goes for treating people as less than equal for being who they are (or as god made them right?).

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      Dubuquedogtrainerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Wrong. Didn't anyone ever tell you that it is poor interpersonal communication to start out a sentence with an accusatory, "You?"

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      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The word limit places a restriction on how one can speak in these comments. Does not change what I said, are you suggesting this is not your opinion? Totally avoided the point.

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   feenixposted 12 years ago

   Why do some people take moral values as hate crimes?
   
   My answer is it all stems from "political correctness," stupidity, ignorance, hypocrisy and attempts to intimidate those who disagree with their way of seeing things.
   
   Personally, I am strictly opposed to same-sex marriage -- and anyone who contends that my opposition is motivated by bigotry is either very dumb or nothing but a "trash talker."

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      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So what is your opinion motivated by? Faith? You are bigoted about your faith, tradition? You are bigoted about your traditions. etc etc. I am yet to see a single opposition to this no motivated by bigotry, demonstrate the exception.

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My opinion stems from good old common sense, and nothing more.

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   junksellerposted 12 years ago

   The issue to me isn't really about what we believe, it is about how we use what we believe. How, when, why, and where we tell people we think they are wrong is what makes something hateful, not the mere fact we hold the belief in the first place.
   
   To use a less contentious issue lets consider coed dormitories where men and women share bathrooms. Even if I consider it immoral, what would be the point of standing outside the dorm in protest with signs that say what they are doing is wrong? The only purpose that would serve is essentially to be mean.
   
   That doesn't mean I can't defend my moral belief. If my university tried converting my dorm to a similar situation, I would then have a right to say I think it is wrong.
   
   I don't know the context in which you state your beliefs about homosexuality, but if you make such utterances in a public space, and don't really have a reason for it, as you have done here, it seems silly to expect that others won't make similar utterances stating their moral beliefs--which in some cases will be that you are a hateful bigot--not because of what you believe, but because of what you have done (called someone immoral for no reason).

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   Starmom41posted 12 years ago

   Well, I haven't heard it described as a hate crime, but I've heard 'judgmental, narrow-minded, intolerant,' etc.
   First, a person is perfectly entitled to his/her opinion/belief on any/every subject. This doesn't mean he/she has the right to push the opinion/beliefs on other people. However, if someone else's behavior spills over onto you, or someone is being harmed by it, it -becomes- your business. 
   Frankly, I've come to see what some of the older generations used to say as being very sensible:  Be civil to everybody (unless they give you reason not to), but if you find someone's "lifestyle" to be morally objectionable you're under no obligation to associate with them.

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