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Did the Illegal Voters (182,000 of them?) in Florida vote in the razor-close 200

  1. Man from Modesto profile image86
    Man from Modestoposted 5 years ago

    Did the Illegal Voters (182,000 of them?) in Florida vote in the razor-close 2000 election?

    There is a contest right now between Democrats and Republicans over whether or not illegal voters should be allowed to remain on the voting records- and actually vote. Many of them have voted in the past.

    Did they help put Bush in office?

  2. junkseller profile image84
    junksellerposted 5 years ago

    The contest isn't about keeping illegal voters on or not. Neither party wants illegal voters voting (I personally, don't care). The contest is about the process and timing, which Democrats believe is meant to unfairly and disproportionately intimidate and disadvantage minorities and Democratic leaning voters.

    Republicans argue that they are just following the law and it is a nonpartisan effort, which is of course a pile of massive baloney. If these purges disproportionately removed Republican voters it would not be happening.

    The 182,000 you mention is only the POTENTIAL list. Only a very small percentage of those potential names have been found to be people who have cast illegal votes.Being that the illegal votes tend to lean Democratic, they probably did not affect Bush's 2000 victory.

  3. Bretsuki profile image78
    Bretsukiposted 5 years ago

    There is no indication that illegal voters played a role in the 2000 Presidential Ellection.

    The figure of 182,000 headline figure is not the true figure of POSSIBLE illegal voters. Even the authorities in Florida expect the figure to be much lower.

    The problem appears to be caused by the collection of voter registrations via the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) list of registered drivers.  The DMV records were used to add drivers to lists of potential voters in many states. The process seems to have gone awry when those names were not double checked againstnaturalized citizens and permanent residents and non citizens.

    I have been a US Citizen for just 18 months and prior to my citizenship I received jury summons's merely because I held a CA drivers licence. That was easily rectified on each occassion by me ticking a recusal application on the grounds of non citizen ship.

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    DMartelonlineposted 5 years ago

    I don't know where you came up with 182,000 illegal votes but even the reports out of FL don't come close to that number.

    Did you bother reading anything logical or are you just pulling out numbers to start a ruckus?

    and I quote:
    "According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, 178 cases of alleged voter fraud have been referred to the department since 2000. FDLE's spreadsheet showed 11 arrests, but that apparently didn't include a 2009 bust of ACORN registration volunteers in Miami-Dade that yielded seven convictions and sentences ranging from probation to 72 days in jail.

    "It's just not widespread," said Vicki Davis, president of the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections and the supervisor for Martin County.

    Added Mary Cooney, public-services director for the Broward Elections Office: "While there may have been complaints about perceived voter fraud, I am not aware of any actual cases which were turned over to law enforcement."

    The last big voter-fraud case goes back to Miami city elections in 1997. Law enforcement seized 5,000 absentee ballots, claiming that then-required witness signatures on the ballots had been forged. Forty-five people were charged, and a city commissioner went to jail."

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/fl-voter-fr … 2972.story

    1. Man from Modesto profile image86
      Man from Modestoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Beware of misinformation and disinformation (redirects). The original number of potential illegal voters was 182,000.
      New York Times article:
      Judge Sides With Florida on Purging Voter Rolls