Do I alone shudder in horror imagining a Romney Whitehouse and foreign relations

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  1. stanwshura profile image70
    stanwshuraposted 11 years ago

    Do I alone shudder in horror imagining a Romney Whitehouse and foreign relations?

    "Corporations are people, my friends"?!
    "I like firing people".
    "If elected President, my first act will be..." (to undo everything Barack Obama accomplished)!!
    How 'bout having your own agenda - your own opinion, instead of flip-flopping around like a fish stuck on land every time you think the political winds change?

  2. peoplepower73 profile image89
    peoplepower73posted 11 years ago

    No you are not alone.  I feel the same way.  The problem with all poiitical entities today, is that you can't hold these people accountable for anything they say or do once they get in office.  That applies to presidents, congress at federal, state, and local levels on both sides of the aisle. That's why they flip- flop around like fish on land.

    Romeny is corporatist who has Super PACs that wiil spend gazillions of dollars to attack Obama. The money comes from corporations and monyed interests that have an agenda that does not represent the peoples interests. I shudder to say how he will deal with foreign policy. I'm sure as a corporatist, he has many big business foreign connections.

    Republicans are very good at being cohesive and developing effective propaganda. They are much better at it than Democrats are. Sad to say, but I think that gives them a political edge...we can only hope.

  3. Lions Den Media profile image61
    Lions Den Mediaposted 11 years ago

    Stan could it be possible to dispense with the melodramatics? Legally - Corporations are people so I'm unclear as what your astonishment is with that fact of law. Certainly you've most likely worked for a corporation and as such received checks from the company. And furthermore it's most inconceivable that you did not run to the bank to cash that check. Then there is the fact that you are posting a question on the website of a corporation. Hence, what I shudder at is your hypocrisy!

    Then there is your quote "I like firing people" which is taken out of context, whereupon what he stated was he likes being able to fire people that are not performing, as opposed to continuing to pay that person for inferior work. But apparently Stan, you prefer paying people for incompetence.

    You know Harry Truman ended the WWII w/the Japanese by obliterating two cities with two atomic bombs and thus leaving them in rubble. So the President accomplished something, but it left one hell of a mess -- do you not clean up the mess?

    Obamacare is a the atomic bomb unleashed on America. This Obamacare bill was claimed not to be a tax. The court ruled that is was a tax. Would Obamacare have passed if it were claimed to be a tax - certainly not. Currently health care under Obama has increased approx. 30 percent this year alone. The argument asserted by Obama was that it would bring down costs.

    So what you are arguing in favor for is: INCREASED TAXES, unlimited insurance premiums, higher insurance costs, lower quality of care and adding yet another government entitlement program. Perhaps your decision was predicated on the fact that you think the other gov. entitlement programs, which are poorly operated and ALL bankrupt (Medicare, Medicaid, SS, $57 trillion in debt = bankrupt = fire the employees in charge).

    You are also claiming that "allowing government to tax Americans for NOT engaging in an activity the government wants you to engage in" is simply wonderful. You apparently do not "SHUDDER" at the newly obtained unlimited power of the gov to TAX all Americans without restraint. So excuse me if I'm not shuddering over foreign policy -- because America has already been taken over from within.

    1. lostdogrwd profile image60
      lostdogrwdposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      2000 a surplus and eight years later a 11 to 14 trillion dollars debt that the people is told we have to paid and because a  republican told you it a debt that it not a tax. and on top of that the feds own SS( which is paid for) close to 50 trillion.

    2. peoplepower73 profile image89
      peoplepower73posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Isn't it interesting that you abide by Citizens United becaues it's a law, but you don't abide by Obama Care.  It's a law as well.  The tax you speak of is for only those that refuse to get insurance.  That's 1% of the population.

    3. Lions Den Media profile image61
      Lions Den Mediaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LD your facts are incorrect. Obama spent $5 trillion 4 yrs. Bush spent $5 trillion 8 yrs. Clinton spent $2 trillion and left Bush $5 trillion in debt. Also the gov doesn't own a darn thing, the taxpayers own it. SS by the way is BANKRUPT.

    4. stanwshura profile image70
      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm a hypocrite 'cause I've dealt with and patronize business, work for a paycheck and yet find absurdity in Mitthead calling corp. a thing?  Brush up on your grammar, honey (and your logic).  No melodrama from me.  Hypocrisy?  You're drenched in it.

    5. Conservative Lady profile image70
      Conservative Ladyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for putting all the facts together in your answer Lions Den - I was getting ready to start my rant when I saw your sane and succint response. Saved me a lot of typing! I agree with your response 100%

    6. Lions Den Media profile image61
      Lions Den Mediaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Stan - what's your point? Perhaps you should know of what you speak before vomiting forth obtuse irrationality. So Princess, I've provide you the definition of a corp to enhance your knowledge base smile)Thanks

    7. stanwshura profile image70
      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, dear lioness.  Okay - newsflash.  My knowledge base does have gaps!  So does yours!  Dear *God*, NOOO!  The yang for me, however, is a solid command of that to which I dare to write.  And, I'm literal.  A corp≠a person, it's OF them.  Get a clue.

    8. peoplepower73 profile image89
      peoplepower73posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Lions Den Media:  Just to keep the record straight, social security is not bankrupt.  It has 47 million dollars. Accoding to the Congressional Budget Office(CBO), that will last until 2037. At that time, it will still able to payout 70%.

  4. lostdogrwd profile image60
    lostdogrwdposted 11 years ago

    if he win, this country deserves everything he said he will  do. the people in this country already elected a person who has oil friends and BANKRUPT EVERY BUSINESS HE EVER OWN  in former president Bush. ( check it out) and he bankrupt the country and oil price as high as $150 a barrel and gas as high as $5 a gal.Romney make money buy buying up business and consolidating or bankrupt to consolidated to make money and he will do the same as president and the only job growth will be job to sever the rich for penny and any manufacturing job still here will be out of the country and outsource government jobs to India or somewhere else.

  5. junkseller profile image79
    junksellerposted 11 years ago

    Romney would be a disaster. He will carry out the mythical Republican agenda, cutting taxes in a misguided belief in their magical powers to create jobs while keeping spending high fighting wars against imaginary enemies. High spending and low revenue = deficits = increasing debts = a very poor economy. And that would be without even considering the other disasters which would result from his black-and-white view of the world and his love affair with fossil fuels. Any of the three of those things would be bad by themselves. Combined? well, it might be time to consider moving (or to seriously start thinking about space colonization).

    People shouldn't ever elect someone for whom regular people are abstract concepts, or they will find that they are treated as such.

  6. Ken Burgess profile image76
    Ken Burgessposted 11 years ago

    There is a split in our country right now, one very visible even here on these hubs.  You find the well informed Hubbers who are able to articulate well their positions.
    And you find other Hubbers that are basing their beliefs on what they have heard in the media and in their daily lives.
    That takes cares of about 80% of the people, with everyone else falling in the other 20% that don't fit neatly into those two.
    The majority of the first group support Romney, and most of them have small misgivings, but they understand enough of the facts, and many of them enough of accounting/math to know that Obama is taking us in the wrong direction economically, and if he gets four more years, based on everything HE has said, things are going to get even worse if he gets four more years.

    things are worse now than they were two years ago... we are going in the wrong direction.

    #1 Romney wants to take on China's trade status, Obama will not

    #2 Romney wants to lift all of Obama's regulations which practically ban all new coal mining, and his near stop to all new oil drilling... this issue does not just effect jobs, it effects future energy prices.

    #3 Obama promises to raise taxes on business, Romney won't, but he does want to lower corporate taxes (which are the highest in the world).

    Obama's problem is he wants to do all these 'good' things... he has doubled the number of people on Welfare from 47 million to 109 million that alone now takes up more than 25% of Fed spending in this year's budget;
    Obama wants to heavily regulate coal burning and coal mining, but more than 50% of the Nation's electricity production comes from coal... 50%

    Good intentions... without a full grasp of the costs

    Obamacare another perfect example, new taxes that will hit us all come 2014, higher costs for insurance despite promises that they would be lowered... good intentions, that will hit a lot of struggling working families in the pocket book.

    Obama's whole concept that the Federal government can fix these problems will just create more taxes, more red tape, more struggles for those that already have jobs...for those 25-50 million Americans (depending on what percentage you want to count) unemployed will only suffer more.

    Another example of Obama putting ideology ahead of reality, DoD spending cuts set to hit on January 1st 2013 will equal 1,149,464 Jobs lost according to the Center for Security Policy, 9/10/12...and not one of those poor people will get word until after the election


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