BILL CLINTON: "We are winning" ("Bill Clinton urges Senate Dems to fin

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   fishskinfreak2008posted 14 years ago

   Looks like we have a new ally in the struggle/fight for healthcare reform

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      rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What an arrogant statement. This attitude set him up before and it will do it again.  The health care bill should be a work in progress.  It kind of reminds me of how congress shoved the prescription drug bill down our throats.

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   tksenseiposted 14 years ago

   If anything approaching the proposed mess of a 'reform' is passed, the dems may find they 'won' the same way the British did at Bunker Hill.

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   C.J. Wrightposted 14 years ago

   There will be no winners if this proposal is passed.

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      Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes there will - a small handful of politicians and the heads of some big corporations will win big time - at the expense of all the rest of us.

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         C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That makes them thieves....not winners.....but I guess by today's standards the two are interchangable.

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      fishskinfreak2008posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      <snipped - no personal attacks in the Forums>

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   C.J. Wrightposted 14 years ago

   Play special attention to the verbage though: "WE ARE WINNING"  So much for non partisan politics.....

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   With "friends" like Bill, who needs enemas?

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      prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL< like your humor...

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      Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

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   A Texanposted 14 years ago

   Who? Bill Clinton? Who is Bill Clinton? Oh, you mean Mr Hillary!

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      Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

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      prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      many many many LOL

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   Let them finish and after they make a complete mess of it bring our country to it's knees then we'll never have to worry about the left ever again. They'll never get another chance to screw-up again.

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      livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Funny, that's what the Dems were saying earlier this decade...
      
      But you do have those 2 governors now.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes and I'm sure "The Chicago Machine" still has more plans up it's sleve.

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         C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Both sides have said the same thing over and over again. Dems take the congress while Reagan is President, GOP takes the congress from Clinton, Dem's take the congress from Bush....see the pattern?

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   Poppa Bluesposted 14 years ago

   Hopefully, if health care does get signed into "law" the states will exercise their right to nullify it as an attempt by the federal government to overstep their constitutional bounds.
   
   The next fight will be with our state legislatures.

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      tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm afraid that fight has already been fought and lost.

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         Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         No it hasn't! A bill has yet to be passed by the feds. It's also possible for the states to hold a constitutional convention and amend the constitution to strengthen the rights of the states and further limit the fed's power.

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            rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            A constitutional convention!  When was the last time you saw that happen?  The bill has a long way to go and I suspect there will be skullduggery but the provisions in the bill may allow some effort at the state level to prevent it. Don Quixote has nothing on you Poppa Blues.

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            tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            But you know that ain't gonna happen. The Articles of Confederation ain't comin' back.

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               Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               The states already have that right under the 10th Amendment. But since the feds are playing dirty and invoking Admin law, the states must reiterate their status under admin law to get what they once had under the 10th Amendment.
               
               But they are doing it, so maybe things will turn out alright.

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                  C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Georgia and Montana have actually generated resolutions from their legislatures calling the Feds out on the 10th Amendment...pretty interesting stuff.

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