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Is Election 2012 already decided, even before the debates?

  1. Perspycacious profile image81
    Perspycaciousposted 5 years ago

    Is Election 2012 already decided, even before the debates?

    Voters on both sides and the middle have alternately rooted for one side or the other while the only really "undecided" seem to express their disgust with both parties and both major parties candidates.  The distortions and mis-facts fly around like flies around a day-old carcass, while the dollars pour in and out in a seemingly endless stream.  We know what's wrong.  We all wish it could be fixed. Nobody is talking about "term limits" for anybody, and both sides get a kick out of Super PACs which disgrace the process.  Is it already over, and will we be any better off at its conclusion?

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    Old Empresarioposted 5 years ago

    Well, I think we're seeing the beginning of the end of our republic as we know it. I can't predict the future, but some things are practically carved in stone at this point. I think everyone feels it to some degree and most are now aware of the illusions of politics. The inevitable bankruptcy that our government and society is facing may ruin everything or may just ruin our dysfunction. What comes after that is completely unpredictable, since the reactions of the American people to crises have always been unpredictable.

    1. Perspycacious profile image81
      Perspycaciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      The bipartisan pill was too big for Obama to swallow, so it wallows in limbo, probably not to be seen again. Perhaps, if re-elected, Obama can stop playing his ongoing politics and compromise with our Sen.s and Rep.s long enuf to do his job, too!

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    JThomp42posted 5 years ago

    Yes, I believe people will go with the safe vote and vote Obama back in. We sure as heck don't want to go from bad to worse. The economy tanked. So, It will take longer than 4 years to fix that problem. When that is fixed? Everything such as unemployment should take care of it's self.

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    Old Poolmanposted 5 years ago

    To continue down the same failed path would border on insanity.  We know most of the things that have been tried to lift us out of our terrible economic situation have either failed completely, or produced mediocre results at best.  If we were discussing a football coach with the same record of lost games I'm sure the people who hired him would be looking for a replacement.  Yet in Politics, the game is played by different rules.  In football, even the fans eventually grow tired of a losing record and demand the coach be replaced.  In Politics, citizens loyalty to their party makes them overlook the actual record of wins / losses.  I will vote for a winning coach every time regardless of which party they are loyal to.

    1. Perspycacious profile image81
      Perspycaciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't get the +$2 Billion Rainy  Day Fund Romney left in Massachusetts, and the Dem.'s claim that he left it -$2.5 Billion in debt.  Someone had to be wrong on that one.  Guess who?

  5. lone77star profile image83
    lone77starposted 5 years ago

    Would you be surprised if the elections are determined by the Rockefellers and their ilk? I'm so tired of the conspiracies. But they're no longer theory. The details are becoming clearer by the day.

    Look at what happened in the Republican Party primaries. Votes were changed, lost, ignored and rules were ignored or changed on the spot to suit the GOP elite and their "golden boy," Hollywood handsome Romney. Look at the YouTube videos on GOP fraud, especially the "Reality Check" by Ben Swann out of Ohio.

    Look up the YouTube videos on election fraud -- fixing electronic voting machines to produce the results that are desired by those in power. Diebold won't tell you the truth about their machines, but programmers have hacked them. The voting process is no more transparent that a Stalin era pogrom.

    The Corporate Party media helps to keep up the illusion of choice, but Obamney and Rombama are exactly the same on policies that most affect the New World Order and their agenda. They're both the same on the policies that most destroy America and its future survival and sovereignty.

    Don't be fooled like the Germans of 80 years ago. We may not have one figurehead, but that's part of what makes their plan so slick.

    The illusion of choice.

    May God protect us all.

    If we're lucky, maybe we can legalize the Constitution again before the Great Storm to come. I hope you all make it out the other side alive.