Am I Missing Something Here?

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   TeaPartyCrasherposted 12 years ago

   Am I Missing Something Here?
   
   We've seen states petition to secede from the United States, we have citizens arming themseves for a rebellion, but the folks who want the wealthy and corps to pay more in taxes, see a living minimum wage, and want to see America pursue an energy policy based on sustainability and conservation are the extremists?
   
   What am I not understanding?

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   The Old Guard is fading TP......imo.
   A new paradigm is coming down from the ethers......nothing anyone can do to stop it, guns or not.
   They have killed for power and greed, and now think they can kill for anything at all (stand your ground laws)
   But they are wrong.
   We are rebelling against the few. And no matter how much we turn on each other...it's already a done deal.
   New aeon. Way beyond human machinations! imo.
   But ego is stubborn. popcorn time :-)

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   LandmarkWealthposted 12 years ago

   You're missing alot. Citizens arm themselves because they see the way people behave in the wake of a hurricane or any other natural disaster for that matter. People looted all over places like Staten Island as well as during Katrina.  And it was a very dangerous place to be trapped.  And still is in many parts of NY.  It has nothing to do with an armed rebellion. 
   
   There is no such thing as a corporate tax.  Any increase to the operating cost of a company or it's after tax return is ultimately passed on to the consumer in higher costs when they buy whatever the corporation is selling.
   
   It depends on how you define wealthy, But they already pay nearly the entire tax bill as it is. 
   
   The top 0.1% of earners paid 16% of all income tax revenue collected.
   The top 1% of earners paid 38% of all income tax revenue collected.
   
   This means that the top 0.1% of earners already pay more than the bottom 80% of earners. While the top 1% pay around 38% of the taxes, yet they only generate 17% of the national income.   In terms if an further tax increases, there aren't nearly enough rich people to make a difference. Take 100% of their income and you cover enough revenue to operate the Gov't for almost 2 weeks.
   
   In fact in reality there is little to no correlation to tax rates and tax revenue. The Gov't collected the same share of revenue when the top rate was 92% as they did when the top rate was 28%. If you'd like to understand why, this is the best explanation I can articulate.
   http://landmarkwealth.hubpages.com/hub/ … ax-Revenue
   
   Lastly there is no such thing as a mandated living wage.  The laws of inflation do not permit it.  Wages are based on productivity.  If you made 50k last year and then woke to find you won the powerball, your life would change and you would have access to things you didn't earlier and liket buy many things.  In an isolated case that does't impact inflation. But if we just increased everyones wages to a "Living Wage" without the equivalent increase in productivity, then the cost of goods and services would immediately go up by an equvialent amount, hence destroying the value of the new living wage and making it the new poverty level.

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      LandmarkWealthposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I see all people workers and owners as rewarded for productivity, nothing more. Wages collectively are what drives inflation.  There would be no opportunity for foward progress ever.  Not to mention Gov't inflation data is greatly manipulated.

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   Tom Koeckeposted 12 years ago

   What you are not understanding, TPC, is that objectivity and clear thought are unpatriotic.
   
   If you would delude your mind into believing "socialism is bad" and "military is good," and disregard that military economics are the dictionary definition of socialism, then you would be closer to understanding what they are talking about.
   
   If you are capable of hitting that level, then maybe you could reach further and understand that entitlements are bad, except the ones you may get, which should not be considered entitlements. So, for old people, Social Security and Medicare are not entitlements, to the retired military person military retirement is not an entitlement, and so forth.
   
   If you can delude yourself into believing that level of crap, then you should be able to reach further and convince yourself that all our forefathers who came to this country for religious freedom did so in order for us to be Christians. There is something in the Bible about judging others, so it must be okay for us to do it.
   
   Perhaps then you will be able to add prejudice against immigrants to your repertoire. Stephen Colbert probably said it best: "(Our) grandfathers did not sail across an ocean to come to a land overrun by immigrants."
   
   Finally, you may be able to gain an understanding of the Constitution. The parts about search, seizure, and rights to jury trials don't apply to people accused of crimes. If they wanted those rights, they shouldn't have been accused of a crime. The part about cruel and unusual punishment doesn't apply to those who are convicted of crimes. Cops are always right. Law breakers are always wrong. That is what our tax dodging, authority shooting forefathers meant, and not literal interpretation like those damn liberals would have you believe.
   
   If you feel you are incapable of reaching that level of understanding, perhaps a lobotomy would help.

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