What new name would you call citizens of the United States of America ?
Recently I was in a discussion with a Brazilian friend who finds it arrogant that citizens of the United States call themselves Americans. They are of course Americans but so are Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians etc. We all are in the Americas. So what name do you feel would better encapsulate the residents of the United States of America?
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Isn't it arrogant to name two continents after one guy? regardless, my new name would be; Deal with it, we're Americans.
Hmm, don't you think that it is this type of response that is considered 'arrogant' by other countries? In many countries America is not seen as a peace keeper but a bully.
to Onusonus - Hazzah we are AMERICANS. To Blond Logic AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE NOT BULLIES.
I never mentioned soldiers. The work they do is invaluable, and every citizen of the USA should be proud of them. As I am. The question asked for suggestions for a new name to differentiate citizens of the US from other Americans.
Interestingly though, no other country refers to themselves as Americans. Venezuelans are called Venezuelans, the same with Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, etc. But everyone in the world knows where a man is from when he says he's an American.
I don't, American means native of a huge continent to the west that is so large it needs to be split into two continents.
So when you ask a Mexican what his nationality is, they usually respond with Mexican-American? Because where I come from they only hyphenate it when they are US Citizens.
So what, the Mexican, has fallen into the trap of beilving that there is such a country as America, there ain't.
And so have Canadians, and Argentinians, and Puerto Ricans, and Brazilians, and Chileans, and everybody else who comes to the US. to be a fill in the blank- American.
Oh dear, this is becoming so tedious, I have relatives in Canada, they tell me Canadians have no desire to be associated with the USA, I would guess, that Canadians and other nationalities are refering to the continent.
This belongs on the forum.
My Grandmother was a Canadian-American. She immigrated from Canada, otherwise she would just be a Canadian. That's okay though they can keep all our draft dodgers.
Would they prefer that we call ourselves Uniteds? LOL. Seriously, we are the United States of America. What else would we be?
It was the term 'Americans' that some find unsettling when all of North, Central and South America are the Americas hence they are all 'Americans'.
Yep, just like South Africa. It would be just as wrong for them to call them selves African and presume they are the only African country that counts, and every one else in the world knows that they mean South Africa.
I honestly think it's a perceived arrogance. Are there any other countries with the word "America" in their titles? I looked it up - American Samoa. I'd imagine they refer to themselves as Samoans, but I don't really know anything about them.
Well, then we would have to call American Indians, Native United Statesmen not from India Indians. Let me see you put that on a baseball uniform in Cleveland.
Afraid not, Native Americans, covers a multitude of sins, that covers all of the indigenous inhabitants before the European invaders stole the land mass from them, If you wished to be more specific, you could use, Hurons, Incas, Comanche, et al.
All kidding aside. Let's go with "Free America". That covers them all, doesn't it?
No, which country in the Americas are you refering, you could change the name of the Country to, Free America, citizens become Free Americans.To refer to the USA as America, is as wrong as refering to, say, Mexico, or Chile, as America
How about, Usians, or, as recently been suggested by Old Empresario, Statsians, and yes it is arrogant for citizens of the USA to refer to themselves as Americans and then believe that the rest of the world should know they are from the USA, as if the rest off the countries in the two continents and indepedant offshore islands don't count. Citizens of the USA, are no more or less Americans than citizens of Bermuda, Mexico, or Argentina, et al.
I couldn't care less what people from other countries think of us calling ourselves Americans. However, if enough citizens of these United States want to come up with a different name to accommodate the whiners, let's call THOSE former Americans "APPEASERS".
That ought to do it, a la Neville Chamberlain....
How about "human" or "world citizen" - honestly I don't understand why we get so wrapped up in country names as our identity. When I see a person my first thought isn't "what country are they from" it's, I wonder if this person is nice, or are they interesting?
People that get so upset and emotional over things like this I think are kind of tripping over the trivial - we're all human after all.
It is the nature of mankind to pigeon hole. Whether it is correct or desirable to do so matters not, we do it. Also, there are many questions on here that run along the lines - 'in our great country of America...?' Arrogant, where? No such country.
If you are a world citizen, why do you need a passport to go to different parts of the world, and why do you need to apply for citizenship to each part of the world to live there? Everywhere apparently except the United States.
I live in the US is my typical response not I AM American. I am a lot of things... but I live in the US.
We are the United States of AMERICA...people from Germany call themselves Germans...people from Russia call themselves Russians...from Mexico, Mexicans...from Brazil, Brazilians...from France, Surrenderers (a little humor)...Why would it offend anyone that we call ourselves Americans? But, more importantly, why should we care if something that petty offends someone?
The country is the USA. America, is a continent with many countries.Many people from the USA, call themselves Americans and expect the world to know they mean USA. Germans don't call themselves Europeans and expect the world to know they mean German
Calling yourselves Americans is the equivalent of Germans calling themselves Europeans. They are of course but they don't refer to themselves as such.
Your example is not an equivalent. This isn't even apples and oranges, it's apples and elephants. Germany is not the United German States of Europe. I live in the United States of America and I am an American whether you like it or not.
Blond it is not the equivalent...America in in our official name. Europe is not in Germany's name. If our country was named The United States of X we would call ourselves Xians or Xites...
And, again, why should we care what other people think.
Also, Blond Logic, I see on your profile you say you are from America. Which one do you mean? North, South or Central? Since you live in Brazil, aren't you still living in America?
Are we all agreed that from the Northern most point in North America to the Southern most point in South America that EVERYONE is an American?
So, then, Blond, you are ambigiously from one of three different continents?
Let's go over our continents shall we? Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe and Australia. I have lived on 3 of these.
Well, let's go over the fact that I'm not arrogant enough to presume I have a right to decide how other people define themsleves.
So, because Africa is in the Name, South Africa, it is fine for citizens of South Africa to use Africans,and expect the world to know that they mean South Africa, I think not.
MickS, so then black people in the United States of America should not call themselves African Americans, correct? I believe those from South Africa refer to themselves as South Africans, not merely African...
That is probably correct, especially if they are the term as US citizens, how is any one to know what country they come from. If they are using the general term of American, it doesn't really matter. Is there any need to refer to race?
How unnecessary this concern is. We ought to be working to preserve what liberties we have left (that have made us great in the past) rather than worrying whether other nations like our name or not.
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