Is Cliven Bundy a terrorist?
Think about his actions; and imagine what would have happened if the exact same situation occurred, only he and his group were Muslims. Even if they were urban gangsters, Black or Hispanic or whatever they may be. You can't threaten government officials with guns, get your property back when you owe the American people over $1m, and remain a free citizen unless you're a prominent old white man?
Or is there something I'm missing?
What exactly defines a terrorist these days, and is Cliven Bundy one?
Just a few observations:
As I understand, no one on the Bundy side threatened anyone. They were simply waiting for the feds to make the first move. In fact, video evidence shows the "government officials" making threatening moves toward demonstrators including the use of canines. Also, these things did not even happen until AFTER the gov. brought in all kinds of heavy military equipment and troops to bear down on a man that had not initiated any violence.
As for owing the American people money, if and when his back taxes are collected, the funds will almost certainly be used for one of the many illegitimate functions of the current government of the US. In other words, don't expect that that money will be used to fund anything that helps you or the American people, Blynd.
I agree that the whole situation was unusual, however it succeeded in bringing awareness to that fact that the government has become a frighteningly powerful force, totally different from what it was intended to be through the Constitution. In fact, regular references to the Constitution has even made the list as a characteristic of a terrorist.
Just consider these things.
Great response! Thanks for taking the time.
The cops or "officials" showing up with weapons and threatening violence is how the law works. Any group or individual who breaks the law can expect armed men to show up, that's life.
Rest is true though
It's true that law enforcement will always be armed, but the calling in of armored vehicles, helicopters, heavily armed SWAT officers, etc... was uncalled for. It's the Bureau of Land Management, not the Marines.
Thanks for discussing this in a civil manner.
Cliven Bundy is an example of what we may see more of as the Government gets more autocratic. People are losing their rights. The Bundy story turns out to be one where Sen. Harry Reid's son had a financial stake. Why should we give-up our rights?
He's not a terrorist in the sense that he isn't threatening the U.S. or its citizens. I think it's more accurate to call him a criminal. He cheated on his taxes and should now have to accept the legal ramifications of it. He may not 'recognize' that the U.S. government exists, but he still lives here and he still has to obey existing laws. The biggest problem with this situation is that extremist political groups saw this as an opportunity to make Cliven Bundy a figurehead for their cause. Which came back to bite them in the butt when his racist remarks were caught on tape.
He is not a terrorist, he is a freeloaded. He doesn't want to pay the American people for using their land. He is on welfare and used guns to stay on welfare. He doesn't respect America or Americans. Yet, he is a hero to some. It is a sad example of the direction our country is going in.
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