President Obama has lost respect at home and on the world stage.

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   gmwilliamsposted 10 years ago

   
   From the time of President Obama's inception in the White House, it was his intention to change America into a "newer" version of America.  He felt that that America as it was not in incongruence with what America should be.   He believed that the Constitution was out of place for the 21st century America.   
   
   President Obama set about changing America from the idea of the Founding Fathers to his idea of America.    In other words, President Obama wanted to undemocratize America to revamp it into a new, socialist America.  As everyone knows, Obama"care" is a fiasco.  President Obama knew Obama"care" was problematic from the beginning yet in his mind, Obama"care" was needed as the premium health care by the American people.  He strongly exhorted that Americans must have institutionalized health care.   
   
   The socioeconomic status under President Obama has gotten worse, not better.   The president is so busy concentrating on social programs that he is putting socioeconomic improvements second, even third place.  He even wants to institute tax systems which will "equally, evenly" redistribute income in America.
   
   Of course, President Obama's standing on the world stage is falling.  He is viewed as a weak leader  However, Vladimir Putin of Russia is seen as a strong and decisive leader and isn't afraid to use his strength on the world stage.  Let's discuss this!

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      John Holdenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Obama, socialist

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         retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I will not laugh with you but I will agree, I do not think Obama is a socialist. I think he is far to shallow, lazy and self serving to be much of anything but a celebrity.  He likes the spotlight, the pulpit and the creature comforts of the Presidency.  It is obvious that he doesn't care much for the work.

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            bethperryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I have to agree with you. And I actually liked this President when he came into office. What a disappointment; a disappointment with rehearsed and now-frayed excuses.

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      Credence2posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Poppycock, Grace. You say Obama believes the Constitution is out of place for 21st century America, what evidence do you have to support that?How can you parrot all those right wing fanatics that think that what is currently going on is all Obama rather than representing a trend started long before Obama got into office? When it comes to war, I want prudence rather than recklessness, which cost lives. Obama's predecessor, GW Bush, was an example of the latter. If Obama is a socialist so was Clinton, LBJ and FDR. The man, Obama,  is center left, hardly a radical except for most boneheaded of rightwing adherents.
      
      Well, you ask for discussion and opinion, here it is.

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      FitnezzJimposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Just about all national politicians here in America are losing respect.  They are dividing the country,

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         Credence2posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Hello, Jim, a truer statement has never been said!

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 10 years ago

   From another point of view, with due respect, I don't know that the Affordable Care Act is a failure.  It's only just started.  And I actually respect a President who doesn't rush into a war without knowing what he's getting us into.  If we'd had such a President in the past, 4,000 young soldiers would still be with us today.
   
   This is a forum, and I'm sure there are many with other opinions.  Your topic will surely draw them.

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      junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      On the world stage The President is seen as the First American President to be disrespected in both houses of Congress and in the Senate, in American History.. They see, especially in Europe,  the first American President in history denied the ability to Govern by Congress which holds the American's Purse Strings. President Obama has been denied tax revenues which is basic to operate any Local, County, State, or Federal Government. He has also been denied a Credit Card like the previous President used to fight two wars at the same time and passed and funded his Bushcare drug program. The previous President funded all that with a tax cut in place. I don't know where he got the money to bail out Wall Street. Considering everything, I think the American Government has lost respect at home and on the World Stage. The American people and the World can see a war in America fought Against the President of the United States by Teaparty Republicans and their Backers. The American people and America is now and will be the losers in this unjust war.

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         John Holdenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         That's an accurate summing up.

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   Napoleonm97dposted 10 years ago

   as you said President Obama has came with different ideas from what we have seen from the previous leaders.
   in my point of view i see the western alliance is going down and it has became unable to defend his interests and that thing became obvious in the middle east and especially Syria and Iraq and the western alliance couldn't even stick up for Ukraine.
   i'm seeing things going even worse. And the Eastern alliance is starting to achieve their goals.

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      retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      A few Russian tanks rolling across the Estonian border will end NATO, unless the Europeans find some spine because the occupant of the White House is a coward.  He is comfortable with anonymous, faceless, bloodless, sanitized drone strikes but the idea of a real war probably makes him pee his culottes.

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         Zelkiiroposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Someone who prefers to not have their own soldiers killed in combat?! That's just silly! I want our soldiers to die in those missions that can easily be solved with a single robot! Having no casualties of our own means we can't get angry, and I want to be angry, dammit!
         
         Are we seriously complaining about a lack of dead soldiers? Really?

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            retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Try turning back the Russian Army with drones.  You, as usual, completely miss the point.

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               junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               What exactly is your point???

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                  retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  That NATO will collapse, all of Obama's childish posturing and name calling will do nothing to convince Putin that he is serious and Russia will consolidate its hold over Ukraine.  Obama is feckless and lacks any resolve, entirely unlike Putin.

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   junkoposted 10 years ago

   So what do you think the President should do to Putin?

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      retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Not have been a weakling to begin with, but that ship sailed about 50 years ago.

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         junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         retief, Are you commenting to me? Your comments are vague except when you attack the President. Tell me what the President can do to Putin. If you don't know what else he could do to be approved by you, I understand, I don't know either what he could do to Patin or  the Russian people or army.

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            retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            TOO LATE, is that plain enough?  Putin has taken Obama's measure and found it wanting.

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               junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I suggest you research the actions of previous Presidents to Russian Aggressions during their Presidency. Check out Reagan"s response to Russion aggression during his Presidency. M.A.D. is Nuclear War, that's too political. You don't want the President to act mad and threatening in the face of M.A.D.'s Reality.

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                  retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Obama was a weakling long before Putin's recent actions and Putin understood that, everyone but American lefties understood that.

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                     junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Some Righties's ignorance is painful. They Just can't get pass the Hate. Who are you to judge the President of the United States, how strong are you? Have you ever served ln the military?

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                        retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Wow, is that what passes for reasoned discourse?  What a powerful argument.  Two can play that, well so's your old man.
                        
                        Waaaaaa, you hate Obama because you said he was a weakling.
                        
                        No, I said he is a weakling because he is and North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, Russia, Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Great Britain, Germany, Israel ... the list of those who don't know it is so much shorter, American lefties.  What is Obama going to do, draw a red line and tell Putin not to cross.  How many of those can Obama draw before it is a farce. 
                        
                        Perhaps that is the best word for American lefties and their foolish, blind devotion for our feckless President.  It is a farce.  Dripping with absurdity. 
                        
                        Waaaa, you hate Obama because you are mean.  I am telling my big brother, he'll show you, he will, yeah, he'll show you.

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                           junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           retief, you make no sense, and is incapable of reasonable discourse.You don't just hate the President, you hate all leftys, liberals, and liberal lefty lovers  That means you hate yourself also all conservatives are liberal and liberals are also conservative. Most American decendents of our Fore Fathers in America are not 100% pure breed, they are mix breeds. Its all mixed up in America. Americanism is mixed with capitalism, socialism, democacy, communism and racism and facism you can't have one without the other. So don't hate yourself because (hate hurts you), not Obama. The truth is the light, not everything spoken on the right verses the left or vise versa. Ignorance is lack of knowledge that can be cured by the use of eyes and ears never your mouth. Stop look and listen then, come to your own opinions and not parrot the right wing even though you have a right to be wrong.

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                              Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Some opinions come out of a general love for the country and not out of specific hatreds for parties or their leaders.
                              
                              Obama does not love this country as it was formed. Instead, he has disdain for it. He apologizes for it.  He has an attitude of submission to other world leaders no matter what they stand for. He can't even maintain a position of command over himself for the sake of his country.
                              TWISI

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                                 gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 Definitely, Obama definitely hates America and wants to dismantle it.   Obama was indoctrinated in socialist, even communist ideology as a child and youth.   Obama even indicated that the Constitution has NO place in the 21st century.   He is a TOTAL DISGRACE and DISASTER!

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                                    Zelkiiroposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
                                    
                                    (Also, I'm fairly sure you have no idea what socialism and communism actually mean, but that's another topic.)

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                                       junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       If you really have nothing to say, you should say nothing. I'm fairly sure you had nothing extraordinary to say. I think you just wanted to announce yourself.

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                              retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              you hate all leftys, liberals, and liberal lefty lovers  hate requires far too much energy be wasted on those who are simply not worth that kind of expentiture
                              
                              all conservatives are liberal and liberals are also conservative The name liberal has been corrupted by the left over the last century to mean the exact opposite of what it meant in the early 19th century. The American left are illiberal, in so far as they do not wish to protect the liberty of the individual.
                              
                              without the otherabsurd dualities are not truths
                              
                              come to your own opinions Everything I write here is my opinion and it is my opinion that the American left is weak and the world is aware of that fact.
                              
                              Perhaps you should read a little Sun Tzu before venturing into opinions about strength and weakness.  I do not expect it to make a difference, however true believers are impossible to convince.

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                              retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Thank you for actually addressing the post.

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                                 junkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 retief, I agree, the lost of rightious energy the spirit of hate will tax the hater is not worth the trouble. Anger is another evil spirit that can cause temporary insanity and murder. An angry man is a dangerous man with impaired judgement. I read SunTzu when I was a young warrior. "Never circle a very strong enemy, always leave him a way out to avoid grave loss to your ability to wage war" Thats not a quote, thats what I remember about that perticular lesson of war in the book. I don't know you well enough to know who you love and who you hate,if anybody. Your comments sounded hateful and I passed my opinion, everybody has one. If I 'm wrong its not the first time I've been wrong and not the first time I've hoped I was wrong. Thanks for actually addressing my comment

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                                    retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    Bless you, a clear statement on the human condition. We have all been wrong and will be again, if we are lucky.  How boring it would be to be perfect.

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