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Should Nebraska get a free ride on healcare?

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    C.J. Wrightposted 8 years ago

    Included in the current healtcare bill are unfunded mandates. This means that states will have to raise some of the cash needed to fund medicare/caid.  Nebraska however will recieve 100% funding. It just so happens that Senator Nelson D-Nebraska was against this bill, he asked that states be allowed to completely opt out, Senator Ried D-Nevada responded by offering 100% fed funding for healthcare to Nebraska...your thoughts?

    1. Presigo profile image57
      Presigoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My thoughts are that this is beyond apalling. If the bill is so good why do we need to bribe senators to support it, I just finished a hub on this process

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        C.J. Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I would say that the Senator was completely within his right to insist that his state be exempted. However, once the money was offered and accepted, it looks like a bribe.

    2. MikeNV profile image81
      MikeNVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There is no free ride for anyone.  This bill will drive up the cost for all.  Sure Nebraska is getting a temporary "perk" as payoff for a vote.  But in the end, they are getting screwed just like the rest of us.

      Doctors at the top of their profession have already bailed on Medicare.  They will bail on Obamacare.

      What will happen is there will be a lot less Physicians willing to participate. Those that do participate will not be doing so because they want to... and the quality Doctors will still only accept the very "Doctor Friendly" plans.

      What people are missing here is that it is not Obama, or the Hospital, or the Insurance company that treats the patient.

      What matters is you take care of the Physician.

      Lines are going to get longer, services are going to be less available, and the quality of health care will decline over all.

      I worked for a Health Insurer.  The Administrative cost is through the roof.

      I know of a patient that had a major spine surgery - but not the one that would have been in their best interest, because the surgery that would have been in their best interest was NOT COVERED.

      Think about that.  A person had a major one time only, this will work or it will not work surgery that was SECOND choice to the Physicians recommended procedure, because the insurance would not cover the preferred surgery.  How insane is that?

      Obamacare is going to hurt the elderly and the poor and raise costs.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 8 years ago

    Oh it's not free, the rest of the country is paying for it!

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      C.J. Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      ...it says NEBRASKA. If they recieve 100% funding it is largely free for them.....Especially since the tax starts immediately and the benefit doesn't start for 2 to 3 years.
      Granted Nebraskan's will still pay there standard payroll deductions for medicare/ss.....

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        Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Yes for Nebraskans it's a free ride just the rest of us will be paying for them. As I said, many times, Congres has not the right nor the power to even discuss the health of the nation let alone place a requirement to carry insurance to be a citizen in good standing. I can't for the life of me see, how this farce is allowed to continue! The constitution is clear-

        Section. 8.

        The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

        To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

        To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

        To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

        To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

        To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

        To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

        To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

        To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

        To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

        To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

        To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

        To provide and maintain a Navy;

        To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

        To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

        To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

        To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

        To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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          C.J. Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          No disagreements here. However its a slippery slope you step on to when you look to the government to deside what a woman can take out of her body or what anyone can put into their body. Sounds like the government does have a history of controlling the constituents bodies.......

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            Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I won't argue that, but we can't allow it to continue. If we don't speak up now, the federal government will control every aspect of our lives! We need to return power to the people or there will be consequences!

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              C.J. Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              consequences or a reckoning....

            2. SparklingJewel profile image75
              SparklingJewelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              check out www.givemeliberty.org   they have formed a Continental Congress that just met in november. there were representatives from almost every state that were voted in by people that had learned about it. The representatives came to a common decision to present to the current govt.administration a "redress of grievances" as per called for in the US Constitution.

              the web site where people can go to sign the "redress" is in process. They are looking to gain at least 9 million signatures so that when/if the govt. ignores it, all those that signed will not pay taxes in non-violent protest...they can't throw 10 million people in jail!

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    sneakorocksolidposted 8 years ago

    The democrats will go to far and then we'll have a republican congress and democrat for a president. This was played out before when Bush was there.

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      C.J. Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      And Reagan....and Clinton.....

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    Angela Blairposted 8 years ago

    I was just listening to the news (5:00 o'clock p.m. on 12/23/2009) and of course they're reporting on Texas (my state) but seems Texas' and several other Attorneys General are researching this whole thing to see if the rest of us have to pay for Medicaid for Nebraska, etc. by law -- and it's looking like we don't! Would love to see a class action lawsuit by several states pin Mr. Nelson and Mr. Reid's ears back. To add a little glitter they could add Obama and Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the good old boy network in Washington, D.C.