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Are you glad we are getting rid of Obama as president? Tell me why?

  1. iggy7117 profile image81
    iggy7117posted 2 years ago

    Are you glad we are getting rid of Obama as president? Tell me why?

  2. dashingscorpio profile image87
    dashingscorpioposted 2 years ago

    We're not "getting rid of Obama" as president.
    He will simply have served his two terms in office.
    The only ways to "get rid of" a president is to have them lose an election, pressure them to resign, or impeach (with removal) from office. Even when Bill Clinton was impeached he was still allowed to remain president for the remainder of his second term.
    I believe as a nation we have become too fixated on "individuals" and not their party platform or agenda. I have friends who would love it if Obama had been (impeached and removed) from office.
    I always ask them if they truly believe that a President Joe Biden would undue Obamacare? not push for a minimum wage increase? or seek immigration reform with a path to citizenship? Be Pro-life?..etc
    Suppose Hilary Clinton is the next president will she have a different agenda? Most people vote (according to party) platform/agenda.
    Rarely do they switch sides regardless of the nominee of the party unless they blame one party over another for the status of the nation if they (feel) things are bad. Recessions cause a switch in votes.

  3. Billie Kelpin profile image87
    Billie Kelpinposted 2 years ago

    I agree with Dashing (a rare time, right, Dashing?).  But we are not "getting rid" of our President.  He is our President - our PRESIDENT. Whether we happen to be a Progressive Democrat who feels he wasn't left enough or a Right Wing Republican who feels he wasn't right enough or an Independent who didn't feel he was "independent" enough, we had the right to protest, to lobby, to join any movement we want and become active for persuading a different outcome.  If we weren't able to do that, we didn't try hard enough or weren't successful at being persuasive enough.  The truth is that few of us even want to attend a city council meeting, even listen to Congressional Hearings on hmmm...what channel would that be.? I have no idea, I pass it by. Politics is hard, difficult work - and it's our work that we are so ready to pass off to those who are willing to do it.  As for me, I am among the guilty.  I have not attended one meeting of any group for which I advocate in these last 7 years.  I have called my Senator maybe once.  I have not written one letter, nor do I know about any pending legislation that affects me.  I have left it all in the hands of my representatives.  I have no right to complain because this is still a nation that is affected by the voice of the people.  I refuse to not believe that.

    1. dashingscorpio profile image87
      dashingscorpioposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome to the dark side Billie! LOL!
      Seriously I'd wager most people don't watch C-SPAN, call their representative or attend local city hall meetings. Only 6 people attended my last home owner's meeting out of 600 owners! We just complain.

  4. ronbergeron profile image85
    ronbergeronposted 2 years ago

    As other people have already stated, we're not "getting rid of" anyone. The President will serve out the remainder of his second term and he's not permitted by law to seek another term.

    I think that people believe that the President (any US President) has far more power than he (or she) really has. When the goal of the opposing party is to obstruct any and all initiatives of the President, there's not a lot that can be done.

    Politicians are far more focused on getting re-elected than on doing good for their country and constituents. It's just another big business like oil, education, and news. Unfortunately, there's no shortage of people who are susceptible to the polarization that politicians and their monied sponsors use to try to stay in power at all costs.

    1. dashingscorpio profile image87
      dashingscorpioposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent points! Half of a president's first term is spent on getting re-elected. If the opposition party is large enough in congress and the senate there is gridlock. If one's candidate didn't win the presidency they usually support gridlock.

    2. ronbergeron profile image85
      ronbergeronposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It's not just the President spending time getting re-elected; it's most high-level politicians. I'd like to see a breakdown of the time spent meeting with constituents, discussing/acting upon proposals, and fundraising/campaigning for re-election.

  5. peoplepower73 profile image92
    peoplepower73posted 2 years ago

    iggy: You have asked a loaded question.  It presupposes that I'm  glad of getting rid of Obama.  If I answer Yes, that means I'm glad of getting rid of him.  If I answer no, that means I'm not glad of getting rid of him, but in either case, I have agreed that i'm glad we are getting rid of him, instead of him leaving because it is the end of his term.  In a press interview, Major Garret asked Obama this loaded question:

    "As you well know, there are four Americans in Iran - three held on trumped up charges according to your administration, one, whereabouts unknown. Can you tell the country, sir, why you are content, with all of the fanfare around this [nuclear] deal to leave the conscience of this nation, the strength of this nation, unaccounted for, in relation to these four Americans?" 

    You see, it presupposes that Obama is content about leaving four Americans in Iran.  Here was Obama's answer:

    " I've got to give you credit, Major, for how you craft those questions. The notion that I am content, as I celebrate with American citizens languishing in Iranian jails - Major, that's nonsense. And you should know better. I've met with the families of some of those folks. Nobody's content, and our diplomats and our teams are working diligently to try to get them out."

    That's how you combat a loaded question!  In propaganda terms, it's called fallacious reasoning. The notion that we are "getting rid of him" is fallacious reasoning.

    1. iggy7117 profile image81
      iggy7117posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I wish steps were taken four years ago to get rid of him, regardless of how he will be out now.

    2. dashingscorpio profile image87
      dashingscorpioposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      We had an election.
      Obama got over 62 Million+ votes & 332 electoral college votes Vs Romney's 59 Million+ votes & 206 electoral college votes. Some folks couldn't believe George W. was re-elected either. That's democracy in action!

    3. Billie Kelpin profile image87
      Billie Kelpinposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      M Russo, I just  finished with a project scoring public school 8th grader's essays which require logic and detection of loaded questions. A greater emphasis on analytical thinking skills based on logic based questions will be refeshting for the US

  6. LoisRyan13903 profile image81
    LoisRyan13903posted 2 years ago

    If he was such a hated president why was he elected for both terms.  I'm sorry but a think a lot of his criticism comes because of his skin color.  I voted for him for both terms and have no regrets about it.  This year may be a different story, depending on who runs.

  7. Tusitala Tom profile image61
    Tusitala Tomposted 2 years ago

    The tenor of that question seems to me to imply you haven't appreciated him as a President.   Methinks that even if you had a president who could walk on water and feed a thousand people with two fishes and a few loaves of bread, you'll still be glad to get rid of him after eight years.  That, it seems, is the nature of human beings in democracies everywhere.

    My outside opinion is that Barack Obama will go down as one of America's best presidents ever.  But that won't happen until a couple of decades from now.   By that time, the populace will have rejoiced for getting rid of at least a couple of your nation's leaders.

    1. LoisRyan13903 profile image81
      LoisRyan13903posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Very well said.  Also love the comparison you made about Jesus

    2. Billie Kelpin profile image87
      Billie Kelpinposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I second the "well said"

  8. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 2 years ago

    I think it's time for a change.  He's served his two terms and it's time to move on.  Being president is a temp job and his assignment is about over.  I will be glad for the change.  It is what it is and what has happened has happened.  Lets deal with it and let the political process of choosing a new president begin.