Do you agree with a member colorfulone's post about Obama

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   Haroon Shehzadposted 2 years ago

   Do you agree with a member colorfulone's post about Obama
   
   "I agree with Ben Carson, no muslims as president."
   It is title of a question posted by member and after reading this post I came to a conclusion that extremists are everywhere not only in Islamic countries. I am a moderate Muslim and I am ashamed of some of my fellow Muslims who go to extremes. I am not a fan of Obama but I think that colorfulone targeted him because of his family background.

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   dashingscorpioposted 2 years ago

   
   
   I live in the Chicago area. Obama is not and never has been a Muslim. He was a member of Trinity United Church of Christ for over 20 years. In fact his association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright was controversial during 2008 primaries.
   The reason why so many people think he's Muslim is because he was named after his father and has his father's surname. His mother was Ann Dunham  from Kansas. She died from ovarian cancer.
   The president's parents got divorced when he was three and he was raised with his mom and grandparents in Hawaii.
   Having said that our nations' forefathers who included the "right to bare arms" also believed in the rights of separation of church and state allowing citizens to worship whatever religion they chose.
   Even if Obama were a Muslim it would unconstitutional to discriminate against him on that basis. Before JFK was elected president many folks feared the Vatican would be running the country. Some people held the fact Mitt Romney was a Mormon against him as well.
   I suppose it's human nature to focus on our differences in order to explain why we dislike a person. However it's ridiculous to spread untrue rumors with can easily be fact checked. That's just lazy.

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      dashingscorpioposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are Muslims who are loved around the world. However every group of people has members they are ashamed of. Such is life.

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      Haroon Shehzadposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      dashingscorpio everyone knows that Obama is not a Muslim. When he was elected as a president we were happy. His selection as a president was proof that American people believe in democracy but individuals like Ben Carson are spoiling this broad image

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      dashingscorpioposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Haroon Shehzad, If only you were correct. According to a Huffington Post poll conducted in September 2015: "The poll finds that 54 percent of Republicans think Obama is a Muslim" and "44 percent, say they don't think he was born in the U.S."

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      Haroon Shehzadposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      dashingscorpio it is not a debate if he is a Muslim or not. You are right that people consider him a Muslim but it is not fair to hate him like this because he has a Sur name hussein

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   aliasisposted 2 years ago

   What a bigoted and awful thing Ben Carson said. Unfortunately, there are a number of jerks in the country who will refuse to vote for someone based on religion. Usually, these people will have no issue voting for a Christian candidate, no matter how "extreme" that person is - the politicians in many regions, especially in the South, definitely attest to that.
   
   Religion, in my view, is private business. It should not matter what religion you practice, as long as you're not hurting anyone. Where the issue comes is when religious people try to impose their religious views on other people, or force others to follow laws of their religion - whether Christian, Muslim, etc. Law must always be secular, and this is especially true in America which was founded on the premise of separation between Church and State.
   
   So no, I have no issue per se with voting for a Christian, or Muslim, or Jew, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or pagan...But I will have issue voting for all of them if they cannot lead America as a secular ruler. If they try to make laws based upon their religious beliefs, then they have no place being in office. Beyond that, I would welcome a Muslim president, and would vote for a Muslim candidate if they were the best person for the job. I think it'd be awesome to have other major world religions, or even a candidate who can say they are atheist, represented among Western world leaders.

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      Haroon Shehzadposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      aliasis I think all religions are equal in a way because all religions teach their followers greater good of mankind. No religion says followers to hate others

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   lisavollrathposted 2 years ago

   Haroon, I'm Catholic, and there was a time when people of my faith were told there would never be a Catholic president. When John F. Kennedy ran for president in 1960, it was a big issue, and lots of people thought electing him would put the Vatican in control of the US. Turns out absolutely nothing happened, except that Kennedy was a good president who is still admired.
   
   President Obama is not a muslim. He attended a christian church in Chicago, and was called to task for his association with the pastor of his church by the very same people who say he's a muslim. The people spouting that lie will say anything negative about him. What they're really saying is "he's not one of us", meaning he's not a conservative white Baptist.
   
   Ben Carson is a racist ass who has no business running for dog catcher, let alone president. His statements show how out of touch he is with the real world. There's no reason a muslim shouldn't be president, and no law preventing a muslim from running. Carson is just spouting drivel to get media attention.

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   Shyron E Shenkoposted 2 years ago

   I have not read colorfulone's post, but will. I don't know what you mean about Obama's background.  Do you mean his white grandparents in Hawaii? I very much doubt that they are Muslims. I doubt his mother was Muslims.  President Obama was not raised by his father, who may or may not have been Muslim.
   I don't think anyone should label someone something if they do not know 100% that is what they are.

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      Haroon Shehzadposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Shyron E Shenko by family background I mean his Muslim father who divorced his mother when Obama was three years old. I asked a question whether it was right to hate Obama just because his father was a Muslim and his Sur name is hussein

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      Shyron E Shenkoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I don't believe anyone deserves to be hated for any reason, and President Obama should not be disliked because of who his father was/is.

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