Nobel Prize economist Joseph Stigler and Harvard economist Linda Bilmes calculate the cost of the invasion and occupation of Iraq at $3 trillion.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/29/e … dollar_war
That's less than I would have expected.
But the true cost is not measurable in dollars.
If the government can spend $3 trillion on war, I would like my student loans forgiven please.
The site that hosted the news piece might be partisan...but that's beside the point.
The book is written by a Nobel prize winner in economics, and a Harvard professor of finance. I suspect their calculations have been done very carefully. They say their calculations were conservative, and they have formidable reputations to protect.
LOL - What is this if not an incitement to an argument?
I have never ever seen you on a thread that did not end in an argument with someone - and not only me.
Here's another "idiotic partisan report"--2,972 U.S. military casualties (deaths) + 307 military coalition deaths for a total of 3279 deaths as a result of our foolhardy, needless invasion of Iraq.
In addition, estimates of Iraqi deaths exceed 1 million.
The figure for U.S. military and coalition casualties can be documented in many published sources. Estimates of Iraqi casualties vary widely. If you don't like this estimate what is your estimate?
Another effect of our plan for "improving" Iraq--since our invasion the treatment of women and Christians in Iraq has gone downhill fast. And yesterday the archbishop of the Chaldean (Roman Catholic) church was kidnapped in front of his cathedral. Christians in Iraq who are able to leave are doing so in droves. Under Saddam Hussein they practised their religion without harrassment. Women's rights had greater respect also.
If you don't like the source, here's some identical figures on American military casualties from AP:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gqgQ … gD8V4ARN02
Well, I was hoping you could offer a few examples of my ignorance. I have certainly seen plenty of yours (as has everyone else) but, I am keen to learn.
Its my opinion of the report... didn't attack anybody. I'm fine with discussing the issue at hand. And I've never once seen a thread where you weren't acting like a sarcastic jackass...
At least I don't resort to personal insults.
I can't help but notice that you ignored my comment about the estimate for the cost of the war, and Ralph's about the estimate of war dead, and took the easy way out of allowing yourself to get embroiled in an attack with Mark.
So, since you purportedly would prefer to discuss the issue at hand:
- what is your estimate of the total cost of the Iraq war to the American taxpayer?
- what is a nonbiased estimate, in your view, of the number of Iraqis killed?
Here's some information from another source on the cost of the Iraq war:
I don't think even college politico is able to argue that point. But, the fact remains that the powers-that-be feel this is a justifiable expense. Both my country's and yours.
And if you accept that the govs are run as profit making institutions - the real question is - Who is making a profit?
Why do you need to prove a given? Its trillions so what.
Follow the money. That's where the action is at.
It's not a given; it's contested (or deliberately ignored) by the right-wing.
It's an issue because people might want to know that the Republicans want to continue to spend hundreds of billions, or more, by keeping a presence in Iraq for decades.
Oh just some quick points...
1. I don't dispute the current number of US casualties as it is reported by the major news networks.
2. Ralph's site seems to have a better estimate, conducted with better methods, than the original report. Though I do have reservations because of the motivation of the site. I hope you can understand why I say that. I mean would you trust an estimate for gun violence levels from the NRA?
But I go into greater detail on the second point and answer your other questions when I have more time.
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