Nobel Prize economist Joseph Stigler and Harvard economist Linda Bilmes calculate the cost of the invasion and occupation of Iraq at $3 trillion.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/29/e … dollar_war
That's less than I would have expected.
But the true cost is not measurable in dollars.
If the government can spend $3 trillion on war, I would like my student loans forgiven please.
The site that hosted the news piece might be partisan...but that's beside the point.
The book is written by a Nobel prize winner in economics, and a Harvard professor of finance. I suspect their calculations have been done very carefully. They say their calculations were conservative, and they have formidable reputations to protect.
LOL - What is this if not an incitement to an argument?
I have never ever seen you on a thread that did not end in an argument with someone - and not only me.
Here's another "idiotic partisan report"--2,972 U.S. military casualties (deaths) + 307 military coalition deaths for a total of 3279 deaths as a result of our foolhardy, needless invasion of Iraq.
In addition, estimates of Iraqi deaths exceed 1 million.
The figure for U.S. military and coalition casualties can be documented in many published sources. Estimates of Iraqi casualties vary widely. If you don't like this estimate what is your estimate?
Another effect of our plan for "improving" Iraq--since our invasion the treatment of women and Christians in Iraq has gone downhill fast. And yesterday the archbishop of the Chaldean (Roman Catholic) church was kidnapped in front of his cathedral. Christians in Iraq who are able to leave are doing so in droves. Under Saddam Hussein they practised their religion without harrassment. Women's rights had greater respect also.
If you don't like the source, here's some identical figures on American military casualties from AP:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gqgQ … gD8V4ARN02
Well, I was hoping you could offer a few examples of my ignorance. I have certainly seen plenty of yours (as has everyone else) but, I am keen to learn.
Its my opinion of the report... didn't attack anybody. I'm fine with discussing the issue at hand. And I've never once seen a thread where you weren't acting like a sarcastic jackass...
At least I don't resort to personal insults.
I can't help but notice that you ignored my comment about the estimate for the cost of the war, and Ralph's about the estimate of war dead, and took the easy way out of allowing yourself to get embroiled in an attack with Mark.
So, since you purportedly would prefer to discuss the issue at hand:
- what is your estimate of the total cost of the Iraq war to the American taxpayer?
- what is a nonbiased estimate, in your view, of the number of Iraqis killed?
Here's some information from another source on the cost of the Iraq war:
I don't think even college politico is able to argue that point. But, the fact remains that the powers-that-be feel this is a justifiable expense. Both my country's and yours.
And if you accept that the govs are run as profit making institutions - the real question is - Who is making a profit?
Why do you need to prove a given? Its trillions so what.
Follow the money. That's where the action is at.
It's not a given; it's contested (or deliberately ignored) by the right-wing.
It's an issue because people might want to know that the Republicans want to continue to spend hundreds of billions, or more, by keeping a presence in Iraq for decades.
Oh just some quick points...
1. I don't dispute the current number of US casualties as it is reported by the major news networks.
2. Ralph's site seems to have a better estimate, conducted with better methods, than the original report. Though I do have reservations because of the motivation of the site. I hope you can understand why I say that. I mean would you trust an estimate for gun violence levels from the NRA?
But I go into greater detail on the second point and answer your other questions when I have more time.
by Ralph Deeds 13 years ago
The foreign policy establishment, for the most part including the New York Times editorial page, has called our military activities in Afghanistan a "necessary war," in contrast to our invasion of Iraq. Recently, comments about our military efforts in Afghanistan are becoming more...
by pisean282311 13 years ago
The United States has spent more than $ 1 trillion on wars since the September 11, 2001, says a recently released Congressional report.Adjusting for inflation, the outlays for conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere around the world make the "war on terrorism" second only to World...
by sabrebIade 13 years ago
I have been trying to research just how many people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2003, and I cannot find any figures that confirm each other. I have seen anywhere from 5,000 plus to over 100,000. Pretty wide discrepancy huh? Does anyone know where I can find accurate figures? I know...
by Credence2 5 years ago
This was a major screw up from the Trump Administration. There is now talk in earnest about statehood for the American territory. Here is an article providing some background. Your thoughts?https://www.yahoo.com/news/study-hurric … 55727.html
by Ralph Deeds 12 years ago
Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney release their memoirs early next year. What are they and other neoconservatives who pushed for the Iraq War in the Bush Administration saying now? Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Justin Vaisse explains that many have been lying low and backtracking from...
by Doug Hughes 12 years ago
The 14th AmendmentSection 4. "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall...
Copyright © 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. HubPages® is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website.
|HubPages Device ID||This is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.|
|Login||This is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.|
|HubPages Traffic Pixel||This is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.|
|Remarketing Pixels||We may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.|
|Conversion Tracking Pixels||We may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.|