Where are the architects of the Iraq war now?

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   Ralph Deedsposted 13 years ago

   Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney release their memoirs early next year.  What are they and other neoconservatives who pushed for the Iraq War in the Bush Administration saying now? Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Justin Vaisse explains that many have been lying low and backtracking from their earlier positions.  Vaisse’s new book is called “Neoconservatism: The Biography of A Movement.”
   
   
   http://www.hereandnow.org/2010/11/18/ir … architects

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ralph:
      They are ALL enjoying the spoils of war!
      We both know money controls politics.
      The politicians and oil barons care less and are enoying the lives reserved for Egyptian pharoahs of past history.
      They are lying low in absolute luxury!
      There is no limit to their guile!
      Qwark

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         coolbreezeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         They are living in their big houses laughing at all of us chumps that swallow their crap and fight for their worthless causes. They line their pockets with earthly riches and turn their backs on a spiritual life. Ah maybe in the next life Huh!

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            Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The very rich and media like war, we know it’s about oil greed.
            
            Most people do not like war, yet on the other hand war gets good media ratings, its exciting entertainment; people go for blowing things up.
            
            To me, killing poor people is a mental illness and War is hell on Mother Earth.

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            qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            ..all they have is "hope" for a life after life.
            They care less about mankind. Their care is for the "big buck!"
            They will live lives that we can only dream of!
            They used their talents to "guild-the-lily" and line their coffins with 25 karat gold!
            Maybe they are/were smarter than the rest of us?
            The inherent nature of man is "predation."
            They are/were more, genetically, adept than we, in functioning in a "truly" human manner
            Qwark

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      Stump Parrishposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I can actually believe that Bush was suprised by the lack of WMDs in Iraq. Isn't he still suprised by the ending of "My Pet Goat" everytime he reads it?
      
      The people that are represented by Bush are still making money hand over fist with this war, the war on drugs and the escalating war on our southern border. Bush addressed arms dealers and manufacturers at a fund raiser and said something to the effect that, these were his people the haves and the have mores.
      
      As the educational levels in this country continue to drop you will see a corresponding increase in support for any and all forms of armed conflict. These people only make money when we are attacking someone and they are prepared to keep us for ever at war to protect their profits. America has been at war with some country for 90% of our existence. If world wide peace suddenly broke out they would go bankrupt and that's not about to happen. They have control of the top secret defense budget and can legally bill the country what ever they want., and we are not allowed to know the figure or the purpose. They hide all kinds of crap in this budget that has no over sight.
      
      The easiest way to control a population is to reduce the level of education of those being controlled. It's not hard to see how well it's working, IMO. Take Sarah Palin for example. How do supposedly intelligent people actually believe, that she is capable of leading the country. She wasn't even able to finish the first job she was elected to do. Why does anyone care about what she has to say? They care because they have been told to care by those they trust because they were told to trust them by people they trust based something as profound as the church they attend or Bill O Liely.

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         qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Stump:
         No doubt dubya is as dumb as rock, but his daddy, was head of the CIA, is an oil baron, was pres of the USA. He was the power behind the war in Iraq!
         When dubya was elected to pres of the USA, he was the gov of one of the smallest state gov'ts in the USA. Texas!
         He didn't know world leaders...ah, but his daddy did!
         Bush jr, was just too dumb to do anything on his own.
         Daddy was his "guiding light."
         Qwark

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         Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         In my opinion, it didn't matter one way or the other whether Saddam Hussein had or didn't have "weapons of mass destruction" whatever that means+ (Bush stretched the definition to include alleged mobile biological weapons labs and poison gas). However, Saddam Hussein had no reason or intention to attack the U.S. let alone a means of delivering them. His alleged weapons program was designed to intimidate Iran. It had nothing to do with attacking the United States. The U.S. establishment and MSM media allowed the debate to be framed in terms of invade or not based only the issue of whether or not Iraq has WMD, exluding discussion of whether an invasion was the best way to deal with whatever WMD Iraq had and what it's intentions were if it had WMD.
         
         We lived for 60 years or so  with real nuclear threats (missiles, planes and submarines armed with hydrogen bombs) from USSR and China. Iraq under Saddam Hussein was a little piss ant country incapable of threatening any country outside of the Middle East. Despite this, without any public debate, Bush scrapped a major element of our foreign policy since world war two in favor of his "pre-emptive strike" policy. And our mainstream media and foreign policy establishment, for the most part, went along with this cockamamie action. And we were treated to front-age support for the invasion by the NY Times and an unending parade of neocon military "experts" on our nightly television fare. Phil Donohue was silenced by NBC for questioning the Iraq invasion.Sad chapter in our history.

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      lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Blah, blah, blah, and no criticism for the Obama administration who for the most part has continued Bush's war policies, except for his asinine attempts to try terrorists in civilian courts!
      
      Wait until Obama pulls out of the middle east, lets all the terrorists out of gitmo, before he's swept from office and we get attacked again, inspite of being sexually molested at the airports!

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         Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I thought it was Republicans like Larry Craig who are into sex molestation at airports!

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            lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Do you really want to go there Ralph?

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               GladYaMetMe!posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Another happy Fox viewer post!
               
               

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                  lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Haha! You lefties can't stand the fact the America isn't buying the BS you're selling! Fox is the only place to get real news.
                  
                  But then you lefties hate criticism and free speech too! Why else would Jay Rockefeller want Fox off the air? You can't silence the majority friend, no matter how many new IDS you make, your still a socialist minority!

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     Much like McDonalds is the only place to get a REAL hamburger.
                     
                     Thanks for the laughs.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I just laughed so hard at your post that my kid wanted to know what was so funny!  Do you really believe the stuff you type here? 
                     
                     I'll say it again; you remind me of a former hubber, Poppa Blues.

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               Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Certainly not. I avoid airport men's rooms.

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         Texasbetaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Obama didn't lie to the American people's face in order to sacrifice our American soldiers for absolutely NOTHING. Obama worked to get the soldiers OUT of Iraq, though the Pentagon will never allow them all to leave. Obama focused on targeting actual Al Queda operatives, rather than just throw soldiers in to die with an ill thought out strategy. The fact that you defend Bush is just saying that you care absolutely NOTHING about American lives but only your own ideology. It is sad and shameful.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

   They've been banned from the forums.  We won't hear from them for a few days.

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Damn Ron!
      That's a shame! I'd like to "hub" with them to find out what it takes to live like a Pharoah!
      I'm all for emulation...lol
      Qwark

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I have been banned for working in the USA, because I refuse GW Bush a War theme display. Now disallow all work permits because I have only one rule in life- Do not harm.
      
      Lost half my income.

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   C.J. Wrightposted 13 years ago

   Better question. Where are the war protesters? Why aren't they demanding they get what was promised during the Presidential Campaign???

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

   They're baaaaaaaack!

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