11 yr old El Paso Boy Killed in Anti Gun School Walk Out ?

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Hit and killed by a car outside his school ,  First , what does this kid know about guns, the second amendment  or well......anything ? Second , what teacher indoctrinates these kids to act out this way ? Third , What is wrong with the parents to allow this ?
   
   Anyone see the crazy in this ?

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. Everyone does.

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         The meaningless  casualties of the liberal ideology , This is exactly what I mean when I say the hypocrisy of liberals "caring " about the group mentality but not the individuals involved  .In other words ,
         Identity politics ; give me your vote but keep your problem to yourself .

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      Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This was not on the front page, how about a link to story,Ahorseback, so that I can hear a non biased version of events?

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Your first sentence answers your own question Credence !Try to  move beyond Maddow or Todd !

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            Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I hav e to listen to idiot rightwingers about this matter?
            
            I have been told that many of the gun fanatics actual give their 5 year old firearms for training. Would it really be so far a stretch for an 11 year old to have some appreciation of this issue on his/her own accord without the rightwinger' s "brainwashing" excuses for an explanation?

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         wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I would give you a link, but it's from Fox.  Obviously not something you would care to read.

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            Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            No, Wilderness, I will read even Fox, taking its probable bias into account while looking for other sources that I may find more impartial, reliable.

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               There is one reason and one reason alone that 11 year olds protest anything .  Because its casually stuffed down their throats by activist teachers . Aside from parental apathy and  non-concern  , show me one kid that age that can discuss an issue like guns ,crime ,the second amendment or anything that isn't placed on their desks in introduction .
               We all know that , yet some deny that absolute  reality.

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               *shrug*  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/23/te … lkout.html
               
               Don't forget that everything there is biased and false!

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                  Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  The article is ok, the rightwing bias in this case comes from Ahorseback. Why should I be surprised?What is all this talk about the kid having been indoctrinated to participate in the march? He did not receive permission to leave the school grounds and was out on his own volition.
                  
                  Excerpt from the article:
                  
                  Ysleta School District Superintendent Xavier De La Torre said Benko didn’t participate in the walkout, but was with an “isolated” group of students who left school as others protested, according to the El Paso Times. The students were being questioned as to why they left school.

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                     mrpopoposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Good on you to clear up the fact that he wasn't participating in the walkout.
                     
                     Still, that seems to miss the forest for the trees. Refer to ahorseback's comment here:
                     
                     

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                        Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Greetings,
                        
                        I disagree with  his statement as it is just conjecture and opinion on his part that is not substantiated. It has nothing to do with the facts as provided in the FOX story.  This 11 year in question had nothing to do with the protests and I will not say that every 11 year old is marching because they cannot think for themselves and are somehow indoctrinated. The idea that people, even children cannot understand,  be educated and self-aware but instead brainwashed and indoctrinated is standard rightwing dogma. So, what "trees" am I missing?

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                           mrpopoposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           If it's conjecture it should be easy to disprove. He provided the challenge with "show me one kid that age that can discuss an issue like guns ,crime ,the second amendment or anything that isn't placed on their desks in introduction." If you find a kid like that you're well on your way to making a counter-point.
                           
                           I agree, it doesn't have to do with the facts of the Fox story because the story is a segue into the bigger picture. The story has a few details (the trees) and the pattern of kids protesting is the bigger picture (the forest). You continue to focus on the details of this tragic yet irrelevant side-story, hence why you're missing the forest for the trees.
                           
                           You're probably right that not every 11 year old can't think for themselves. The question is: how many 11 year olds can think for themselves? It's easy to find a single tree that naturally deviates from the norm, but when you see the entire forest changing it becomes harder to assume that it's a natural occurrence.
                           
                           It's interesting that you think his claim is that no children can understand (which is more or less what he said, if we ignore the hyperbole). Should I assume that you think no child is being indoctrinated? At the heart of that interplay is the real question: how many of these protesting children are doing so out of a genuine sense of understanding, and how many are doing so because of external pressures?
                           
                           I'll let you work that one out.

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                           ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           So let's break the incident down to detail like the investigators will do  .   The school stages a walk out , because the schools do that , NO 11 year olds are leaving the school classrooms , the school grounds without the permission of the school right ?
                           Otherwise they would have been sitting at the desk texting their friends , coloring pictures ,doodling ,  pulling the girl in front of them's hair or even listening to the teacher um ......teaching ?
                           
                           Yet these eleven year olds are going to stage a protest march all by themselves ?
                           They are going to either get permission to leave the class from where they belong OR they are going to go against the rules and walk out ? Then this kid and couple others what ditch the school , ditch the  staged walk out , cutt  out on thier own and boom , the kid gets killed ?
                           
                           And you're saying this is an independently occurring accident without the oversight or responsibility of the school or the teachers , that these kids planned this all on their own and  this kid just got stupid and killed all by himself ,  That about right ?

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                     wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Easy there!  As a right wing, conservative, rag you already know it is all false.  Therefore, the child WAS indoctrinated, WAS participating in the march and was NOT killed. 

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   RJ Schwartzposted 6 years ago

   Here's the Liberal version  https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/st … ar-AAwc0ox

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