2016 The Democratic Party Committed Suicide ?

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Election Corruption , It began with the DNC and pretty much ended with the same .
   Admittedly and immediately , the party organization jumped across the ethical and moral divide , unfaily and openly chose one candidate over all others ?
   
   Has the party committed suicide by corruption ?
   
   How many years, how many elections will it take to recover ?

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Recovery time Nov 2018, midterms..... You won't have to wait long. The Right as epitomized by Trump must be deposed with all deliberate speed.

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         ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Too easy and unthought out an answer there  Credence , it requires  a bit more thought like , What IF Trump isn't of the right but of the  center of America ? Could be just the beginning of the big drain ?

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            For you, perhaps. But rightwingers never had a lot of credibility in my book, anyway.
            
            Trump at the Center of America? That is like saying the GOP is at America's center. The moderates of that party have long been dead. They are now in kinship with all the extremist groups that wear the white sheets and play in the bushes, they are just more PC and polite. There is no comparable movement on the left despite Rush Limbaugh saying to the contrary.

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               ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Well that's just plain delusional Credence , you don't understand either the far right or Trump  he's really as much a centrist as Hillary was , yes she played the fiddle of the far left for youth , minority and immigrant votes but Hillary voted so often center as to make so many people even on the right vote for her. Trump's more  a new York independent than right or left , it's just your hatred of him blinding your judgement . You're not the first or the last liberal to have no understanding beyond your hatred though , don't feel bad.

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                  ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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                     ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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                        ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        You were being extremely condescending to the other poster and I just lost it. I hope this won't happen again and I should simply stop reading your posts.

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Condescending, no I'm being politically honest and pointing out hypocrisy of many on the left  , you however are being pure nasty and if it were a conservative post that you offered that from  , you'd get banned for awhile  but hey , I can take the heat even if your party can't and THAT is the truth.

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                           PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           He insults people all the time. He can't help himself. Because, you know, he's evolved over the years into a superior being.

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                              ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Yea ........, same to you .

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      Onusonusposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Voters have a short memory. It's what you might call a Hegelian dialectic. Both parties support each other but act like they hate each other.
      

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years ago

   They won by 3 million votes.  That's the problem that needs solving.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Need to go back to government  history class and learn the electoral college ?

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         Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Understand it perfectly.  Just like I did when we got stuck with Bush the sequel when he didn't get the most votes either.  The EC is a tool of Republican gerrymandering and it is time to make voting fair again.  One person one vote.  Like in every other election we hold in America.  Also in that history book you will learn that the EC was created to help the South get around not letting all the black people who lived there have a voice in government.  You can look it up.

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            GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I have looked it up Kathleen, and you are wrong. You can look it up.
            
            GA

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years ago

   Depends on your source, I'm sure.  You're not going to find that fact in the encyclopedia or a high school history book.  As is often said, history is written by the victors.  Doesn't make it all true.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Kathleen , A little guilty of misinformation .......again ?  Lets see  , The EC was formed by republicans to keep slaves from voting right , is that about it ?    Now the same slaveholders are keeping who ? Your Hillary from being the rightful president ?
      
      So heck , let's just blame the EC on  racism while you're at it ,  No wait , lets blame Misogyny , you know that whole glass ceiling thing , The EC just  has to be some  mans fault , no ?    What about Islamophobia too , I mean why not ,the slaves did actually come from mostly Muslim countries didn't they ?   Let's see , what about blaming old while men ,  what can we call them ?
      
      I know one thing , If it were possible for Trump to have won the office by popular vote and never let  YOUR STATE  be fairly represented  by the EC you would be running around decrying the popular vote and calling for an EC NOW with your MAGA hat on!

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      GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Kathleen, if this comment is a response to mine, and relative to the 4/5th's statement - my sources were; Madison's own convention debate notes, Pulitzer prize winning author Jack Rakov's book 'Original Meanings' - which included direct quotes from involved parties of the time, The Federalist Papers, (sorry, I didn't make the effort to identify the specific one, I am going from memory, but I am certain of the point), and, reprinted original correspondence between Madison and Hamilton, to and from several representatives of primarily slave-holding states. There are more citations, but none are from high-school history books. Or, Right-leaning websites.
      
      If your comment wasn't directed at me, then at least this brief list might pique your interest.
      
      GA

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