Ahead Of Presumed Indictment Presbyterian Church Excommunicates Trump

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  1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
    JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months ago

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    As we all know, the clergy is known for working with, consoling and counseling murderers and other hard core criminals in prison who have repented of their sins: Do you truly understand how dreadfully evil and corrupt of the heart and soul an individual must be to receive the ultimate Christian penalty of 'excommunication'? I'm confident most of us are actually astonished this conviction didn't happen to Mr. Trump sooner: So, essentially the Presbyterian church has deemed Mr. Trump as a toxic, immoral entity for his crimes against humanity and other abominations, a dark individual who is presumably headed straight southward subsequent to his demise and those lost souls who continue to aid, abet and conspire with him here on earth, could be in serious religious and legal peril themselves when called home: Thoughts? Comments?

    "CITING ADMINISTRATION’S INHUMANE IMMIGRATION POLICIES, PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH EXCOMMUNICATES TRUMP"

    http://etruepolitics.com/presbyterians/

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      What about all of the evangelical Christians that support him , for them he is just dandy?

      Something has to be askew about all of this.....

      1. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        It's as if the self-proclaimed Xtians have completely reversed their morals under Trump. Known well for their cult being so judgmental about non-believers and any other religious sect, they seem to be blind to any and all of Donnie's lies, and his treatment of ethnic groups and even fellow politicians.


        In fact, Trump represents everything a true Xtian should be against.

      2. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
        JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Just like a cult isn't it Credence2? Very askew: History tells us that the great overwhelming majority of real Christians resisted and obstructed Adolf Hitler  in the 30's and 40's while a small group of brainwashed individuals continued to worship the fuhrer despite his unthinkable atrocities, until of course they found his corpse in tatters buried in the bunker: 

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2wscbmVX-k

        When you let evil in, it's very difficult to exorcise him later and how do we know preachers like this, Jerry Falwell Junior have not also been possessed by the same despicable evil spirit that has apparently infiltrated and taken Mr. Trump's soul hostage?:

        The Presbyterian Church has already excommunicated Mr. Trump and I'm astonished it took this long for them to act, why is this strange, supposed Christian named Jerry Falwell Junior still supporting him and his non-stop atrocious acts against humanity?

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        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          I hear you, Jake.

          The Christian Right is obviously more "Right" than Christian. To find the most amoral and corrupt man in the history of the Presidency as a welcome bedfellow? This has always been just a phony ideological based interest group that uses the concept of Christianity as a cover. I picked up on that in the early 1980s when they were just rearing their heads.

          It was also interesting to note how the Pope during the 1930s and during WWII remained conveniently silent while Hitler decimated Europe.

          So, it is true that all that glitters is not necessarily gold.

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
            JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I agree with most of your comment Credence2 however, the Christian / Catholic church did condemn and excommunicate Hitler but it was a little difficult to criticize him in public for the demon he was and atrocities he was committing when there was nothing standing between the clergy and extermination of them by Hitler's retarded goons:

            Unfortunately, right now the USA has been reduced to a 3rd world dictatorship which is moving closer and closer to being terrorized and controlled by a Nazi style regime: If not removed ASAP, Mr. Trump, the madman in thief will accomplish the entire agenda for Vladimir Putin:

            It's long past time for the charlatan Jerry Falwell Juniors of the world to take sides with God against evil, not continue to condone an orange faced false idol:

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              ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              "Trumps just like Hitler ", "Gestapo tactics ",  "Third world dictators ".............here Jake , take these and color a Trump picture with a Hitler mustache , maybe draw him holding a Nazi flag , ........at least then those of you on the alt-left resistance  will have accomplished something positively political .
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    2. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      LOL  For the Mormon Christian sect, dreadfully evil and corrupt of the heart and soul means being gay.  For some sects it means disagreeing on pretty much anything with the priesthood.

      1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
        JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Not really an accurate comment but the Nazi's sure love the orange elderly guy who was just excommunicated:

        Nothing like a good ole' rally at DC by the remnants of Nazis who were obstructed and halted by my patriotic ancestors decades ago in world war 2;

        Racist white nationalists seem right at home near the white house where  elderly weakling Mr. Trump and Stephen Miller illegitimately reside:

        "White Civil Rights Rally' Approved For D.C. In August'

        https://www.npr.org/2018/06/21/62214445 … -in-august

        1. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Jake, if you had anything but ridiculous rants to contribute you'd be dangerous.  As it is all you do is reinforce that the liberals have no complaint; they just like to rant and rave.

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
            JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Instead of false accusations directed at your truly wilderness, perhaps you'd like to give me one example of a non-truth in my last comment: It's all true and you know it, you're just angry and upset because Mr. Trump, white nationalist sympathizer, is on his way straight to tribunals and then straight to prison if he's lucky for his crimes against humanity:

            If 'you define 'rant' as offering the truth and facts then yes, I guess I'm a 'ranter':

            When readers watch this disturbing film clip, they should try to ignore the unattractive orange face, purplish gray puffy eye bags and God awful hair if that's what he calls it, and just listen to one of Mr. Trump's greatest allies, KKKer David Duke:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nr2LWcsTCE

            1. Randy Godwin profile image92
              Randy Godwinposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              I never realized how much some white people hated it when we elected the first black POTUS, Jake.  Of course, down here in my neck of the woods I expected it, as racism is more or less inherited just like religion. But in the other parts of the US there are more racists than I ever imagined. I wonder if some even realize how racist they are?  sad

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                ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Race , race , race , race , race , race , race ,race , race .................
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                Works every single time Randy .

              2. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
                JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Well Randy, cult members from Mr. Trump's dwindling fan base constantly attack me with lies and fox fake style radical propaganda like the photo above because I deliver the truth, but they never come at me with facts because they know they can't possibly win that battle, and here are a few very gruesome facts:

                The Presbyterian Church excommunicated Dumpy Fuhrer Trump for his atrocious crimes against humanity which have reached a fever pitch subsequent to the point when he and his accomplices began separating families in a unimaginable segregating action then began to cage innocent children:

                Irreparable damage to the children and parents has been done intentionally by Bozo Trump who could care less: The USA has had enough and are beating him back until his removal from the white house: Business owners are refusing to serve his accomplices like Sarah Sanders Huckleberry and whats her name Kirsten Neilson because they are fed up with the Nazi style assaults here in the USA:

                ahorseback doesn't seem to realize that a Nazi rally is planned in August of this year at a venue where they obviously feel most comfortable, in DC at Dump Trump's temporary residence, our white house: Instead of acknowledging this disturbing Anti-American development, he posted some ridiculous right wing nut job picture above, but here's the truth:

                'White civil rights' rally marking Charlottesville anniversary set to be held in D.C.'

                http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati … story.html

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                  ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Jake you're angry and speaking in tongues again , The midgetry of a mentality that promotes  organized Nazi , SS , and other like marches has absolutely nothing to do with America , me ahorseback or any man anywhere near conservative America .                 

                  No matter how you on the left promote that classic alt-left  blasphemy .
                  Want Nazism ?   Look to the likes of Antifa , nazism from your own party .

    3. RJ Schwartz profile image93
      RJ Schwartzposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I haven't read through the thread because my stomach can't handle the constant stream of propaganda that comes with a Jake post - This is yet another bold faced LIE from Jake - when the only link provided is from a political blog, you know it's suspect (by the way Jake - the site etruepolitics is a parody site and you were played)- the Presbyterian Church USA has no news of the story of their site, neither do any of the other major news sites.  Of course anyone with two minutes and an internet connection can see that Jake is just trying to stir the pot - he never has actual facts and when challenged, he folds like a cheap suit.  In 2015, some Presbyterians had attempted to kick him out, but failed.

  2. Randy Godwin profile image92
    Randy Godwinposted 11 months ago

    I  believe the religious right supporting the cretin will be a good thing for the left. They've pretty much lost any credibility as to family values, honesty, morality, and as any sort of role models for children. I would've never believed the clergy would promote or support anyone with Trump's reputation of dishonesty and questionable business practices.

    I wonder what these people will do if Mueller comes back with some really damning evidence on Trump? If this does come to be, they may never be a driving force in elections again....which may be the best thing.  smile

  3. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
    JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months ago

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    America is OUTRAGED at Trump's crimes against humanity: imprisoning innocent children isn't tough and strong, it's weak and cowardly, but what else could we possibly expect from a yellow draft dodger? When exactly did the United States of America morph into a 3rd rate dictatorship where an insane, racist megalomaniac weirdo like Trump believes he has the right to detain thousands of innocent children against their will?

    Your last comment like many others is just nonsense and you know it ahorseback: When madman Mr. Trump and family are indicted I just hope his attorney, if he can actually retain one willing to work with the greatest serial liar and perpetrator of crimes against humanity in United States history, he'd better have a little more of a defense than a the typical barrel of right wing lunatic lies, a seething hatred of the Clintons and President Obama and denials of fact when he stands before the judge and or tribunal courts of law:

    Even republican governors are obstructing and protesting El Duce Donald:

    "Governors Refuse to Send National Guard to Border, Citing Child Separation Practice"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/us/n … ation.html

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      ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Americans by a majority support border protections ! Fact . Don't try to tell me I'm wrong and won't admit it , tell me you're simply mad that you can't convince me I'm "wrong ", angry man .  Repeat ;   America wants border protections .

      Get over it .
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      1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
        JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        horseback I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from posting lame, weirdo right wing, white nationalist propaganda in this forum because it means absolutely nothing:

        Yes Americans support border protections not border insanity and segregating innocent children from their families like weakling bozo Trump is currently doing is child abuse at the very best and potentially murder at the worst:

        He'll pay the price and many who are carrying out these atrocious crimes of humanity will also pay the price as well when the trials begin: The question will be, "Why did you carry out an unlawful order"?

        Even republican governors are lining up against your insane racist orange bozo in the white house because they understand it's nothing less than a crime against humanity and they choose to avoid future legal entanglement: Why are they going to risk their jobs for an idiot in the white house?

        "States Stand Up To Trump, Refuse National Guard Deployment To Border"

        http://fortune.com/2018/06/18/national- … der-trump/

        1. Live to Learn profile image83
          Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          You'd appreciate it if horseback refrained from posting lame, weirdo right wing, white nationalist propaganda? How about you refrain from posting lame weirdo lies?

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
            JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Just like ahorseback? false accusations with nothing to back it up?

            Sorry, but the truth is that governors are distancing themselves from your beloved bozo in chief by refusing to send troops to the border: They know an atrocious crime against humanity when they see one:

            Let weakling bozo trump and his family do the illegal dirty job of segregating innocent children if they want it done of better yet, let's do the world a favor and deport their lazy, racist rear ends: Your mentally sick orange madman is out of control and everyone knows it:

            "Del., Pa. and NJ Govs. Refuse to Send National Guard to U.S.-Mexico Border Because of Trump's Separation Policy"

            "The governors' refusal to send National Guard troops to the southern border adds Delaware, Pennsylvania and New Jersey to a growing number of states denying a presidential request over the controversial policy separating migrant children and their parents"

            https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/lo … 52391.html

            1. Live to Learn profile image83
              Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              It is people like you who make me fear for the continued freedoms we have enjoyed, thus far. Such hatred as displayed by you, and others like you, is sad.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image92
                Randy Godwinposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                And it's people like you who scare the rest of us by going along with Trump's many lies and insults towards those who don't agree with him. His fans do the same as their role model, but become indignant when anyone else dares to retaliate in like kind. Straighten your POTUS out for his lies and insults and this will help immensely on both sides. Of course, you may think he's innocent in this regard.

                1. Live to Learn profile image83
                  Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  You justify poor behavior by claiming it's ok until I reign a POTUS in? LOL. I guess that means you can do as you please pretty much forever.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    What poor behavior of Tandy's are you referring to?

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                    ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    LTL , Care now , you could be "scaring " Randy and his ilk ?

              2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Jake is a guy posting on an internet forum. As far as I can tell, he has not advocated taking away freedoms, so I have no idea why you fear for your freedoms because of Jake and people like him. Maybe you could give us one example of a post of his that could indicate a desire to take away our freedoms.

                Trump, on the other hand, is POTUS. He has called the media "the enemy." He has advocated and enacted a policy that takes small children from parents who have not even had a hearing and holds them in enclosures that look just like cages. He has told business owners they should fire their employees for doing something Trump doesn't like. He has encouraged eople at his rallies to  attack their fellow citizens with a promise to pay their legal fees.

                Why are you more worried about Jake and people like him than you seem to be about Trump and people like him?

                1. Live to Learn profile image83
                  Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Never having heard a trump rally, I can't verify that you have said anything truthful. Reading through Jake's posts I can verify that he pushes radical half truths in an attempt to create hatred and discord.

                  There are no black and whites. You complain about Trump and immigration. He is enforcing law. Let's change the law so that we can enforce a fair and equitable one. He didn't enact the law. I see him as merely showcasing the insanity of the law.

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                    ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Now "there you go again "............"......there are no black and whites ....." ....How many times do we have to go through this , you know where they will go with that !

                  2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    There is no law requiring separation of families at the border. The Trump administration created the policy, then walked it back because of the outcry from  caring, rational people. Factcheck will tell you the details.

                    Yes, I'm being truthful. I don't lie.   
                    “Knock the crap out of them … I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.” The Trump fans vociferously cheered him on.
                    https://youtu.be/1es9MZyyPOA

                    Again, where has Jake advocated taking away freedoms? You said. " It is people like you who make me fear for the continued freedoms we have enjoyed, thus far." What has he said, specifically, that makes you so fearful?

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          ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Oh yea ..............Uh ....Sorry Jake ,   I should be more like you and post  unadulterated  left wing nonsense ?  Perhaps next time ?

  4. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
    JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months ago

    "600 United Methodists file church complaint against Jeff Sessions"

    "(RNS) — More than 600 United Methodist clergy and laypeople have signed a formal denominational complaint against fellow United Methodist Attorney General Jeff Sessions, condemning his role in the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” policy of separating children from their parents along the U.S.-Mexico border. The charges include child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and “dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of doctrine of the United Methodist Church.”

    The complaint was sent on Monday (June 18) afternoon to two churches, one in Alabama and the other in the Washington, D.C., suburbs, said to be affiliated with the chief lawyer of the U.S. government."

    https://religionnews.com/2018/06/19/mor … -sessions/

    What sawed off half pint Sessions doesn't say is that setting foot on his precious soil is actually a misdemeanor just like littering and jaywalking: Watch his creepy sadistic smiling smirk as he tries to quote scripture that his twisted little mind believes is justification for the unlawful atrocious act of tearing innocent children from their parents and intentionally abusing them by jailing them in unsanitary cages:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-hV67w6oYA

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    ahorsebackposted 11 months ago

    I suspect I am one of those being discussed by the forum dwellers here so let me explain a few points of truth ,  If this isn't about me , fine .  Almost all of the ideological activism in America  , as usual , is coming from the side of liberals , The left .  That is a fact that I need neither  backup  facts , statistics  or charts  to prove   AND any of you with a brain cell  all know this.

    The party of the activist left is one of only two parties here , let's not kid ourselves . You don't see conservatives on the campus' , in the streets , in fact  on many of the  news stations but one ,  they don't do the following to prove their points , burn police cruisers , kill cops , occupy political offices ,  call for violence against others , Conservatives don't work to destroy all American values to prove political points ,  We don't call for public obstruction and disturbances to prove points ,   We don't stifle free speech -even from our own side as liberals are doing as we speak .   We don't call out to disrupt the free flow of either smaller or major corporate business' thus actually effecting  the free commerce of the other party ,  AND also , We as conservatives are not the party of a  absolutely dying political message  .

    The conservative party in America has maintained itself as all powerful by simply and quietly enduring the political war against it from the media purchased and driven left  .  Through" free speech"  the Left has all but declared real war on people who feel as I do  AND you here in this thread want me to categorically prove the defense of my ideology ,  my defense of American values ?  What you want , Is to categorically  stifle the defense of American values , to silence those like me ,in my opinion .  True, I have at times been cut from forums for my  angered opinions. What I have learned from that ; As long as I am civil ,........ I will not be silenced , not now , not ever .
    If you don't like this message .
    These threads are full of political advice from all of you .
    My advice ? Get over yourselves .

    1. Live to Learn profile image83
      Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      My two cents. I thought you were probably who PP was referring to, also. I will say I do think you are close minded on a lot of issues and probably aren't interested in discussion as much as a platform to share your views.

      But, that said. Again, it appears the right wants their voices heard and have that right,as does everyone. I don't see anyone on the right banding together to silence others, bully them into submission or terrorize opponents through violence. Nor do they celebrate such efforts. I am much more supportive of free speech from those who support it. The left seems to be less and less tolerant of alternative voices.

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        ahorsebackposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Most  political "issues "  are already decided , if not changed so much that they have one again returned to where they began in America .  What's truly open to change ?   I am firm ,  but because of my experiences IN and OF my once being actually from the party of the left .

        The right is as close as can ever be to being ideologically "on it's heals " , though not anywhere near ready to fall , on the other hand the left is entering the last throws  of a dying political party .So let's ask this question ,   Where would you or anyone stand ?

        Let's ask one more question ; Of all of the media crap out there that people here use to "back up " their points ;and I am a media junkie , I've read it all .  What is truly believable ? So , in this sense it is why I don't use much but my own judgement to debate the issues .

  6. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
    JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months ago

    Church charges troll Jeff Sessions with Child Abuse and Racism: Demand he stop these crimes against humanity immediately:

    "Hundreds of Methodists Seek to Discipline Jeff Sessions Over Family Separations"

    "Hundreds of members of the United Methodist Church have filed claims of child abuse and racism against Attorney General Jeff Sessions under the church’s “Book of Discipline” after he enacted a “zero-tolerance” immigration policy that has led to the separation of thousands of parents and children at the U.S. border.

    Some 640 clergy members and laypersons in the church have written an open letter to the leaders of the two congregations where Sessions, a longtime Methodist, attends church. They are calling on church leaders to reach out to Sessions and help him “step back from his harmful actions and work to repair the damage he is currently causing to immigrants, particularly children and families.”

    http://time.com/5316396/united-methodis … eparation/

  7. Randy Godwin profile image92
    Randy Godwinposted 11 months ago

    She doesn't have an answer, Pretty. She made the claim up. In other words, she Trumped it!  lol

    1. Live to Learn profile image83
      Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      If you are referring to me you should speak my name. I just read that Peter Fonda came out with a statement someone should kidnap Baron Trump and cage him with pedophiles.

      I'm certain you are just tickled by the thought.

      Edit. I am tickled that the left proves my point as we speak.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Okay Denise somebody, Pretty Panther has asked you numerous times about your statement concerning Jake. I find it difficult to believe you haven't noticed it. I'd like to see you back up your claim as well.

        And no,  I wasn't "tickled" by Peter Fonda's remark, and he did later apologize for it. It's simply another example how Trump has affected the nation adversely.

        1. Live to Learn profile image83
          Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Oh. So since you didn't deny it we can assume you are tickled by the thought of Barron being kidnapped. Crap. I really thought better of you.

          I have explained my stand. You don't like that, so you pretend I didn't.

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
            JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            lol, Why om Earth would you expect patriotic Americans to show compassion for the son of an evil individual like Bozo Trump who is kidnapping innocent children by the thousands as we speak?

            1. PrettyPanther profile image85
              PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              This is too much for me, Jake. We should show compassion for every child, regardless of their parentahe.

          2. Randy Godwin profile image92
            Randy Godwinposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            No, you didn't answer the question, Denise. Otherwise either PP, or myself would have seen it. Try again or simply stop making false claims against those you don't agree with.

      2. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
        JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        I'm not condoning it, but Mr. Trump has abused innocent children by segregating them from their parents and cuddled up to and actually endorsed an alleged pedophile for United States Congress:

        Yes, believe it or not, that happened and is still happening in what was once known as the USA, now a pathetic 3rd world dictatorship:

        So what else do you expect patriotic Americans like Peter Fonda to say? And how else should we as true Americans react to these atrocious crimes against humanity Mr. Trump and his republican accomplices perpetrate daily?

        1. RJ Schwartz profile image93
          RJ Schwartzposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Two works on separating children from their parents

          Planner Parenthood

          1. Randy Godwin profile image92
            Randy Godwinposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Damn Ralph, use spellcheck for goodness sakes!

            1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
              JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              I think he means Planned Parenthood which on occasion, facilitates abortions for mothers and perhaps fathers who receive in depth, comprehensive consultation with their physician and clergy prior to the procedure which is voluntary, not involuntary like the crimes against humanity being perpetrated here in what was once the USA by an orange faced, bizarre looking Hitler wanna be polluting the oval office:

  8. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
    JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months ago

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    Breaking BIG ******** : Federal Judge orders Trump Admin to reunite families he unlawfully and insanely tore apart with a deadline of 30 days: Apparently, the United States Judicial system has a 'zero tolerance policy' for Mr. Trump's illegal zero-tolerance policy which has become a humanitarian nightmare for thousands of innocent children:

    Just one of many crimes against humanity Mr. Trump continues to perpetrate:

    "California federal judge orders separated children reunited with parents within 30 days"


    "A federal judge in San Diego issued a preliminary injunction Tuesday at the request of the American Civil Liberties Union that calls for all children affected by the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy to be reunited with their parents within 30 days.

    In a strongly worded opinion, U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw wrote “the facts set forth before the court portray reactive governance — responses to address a chaotic circumstance of the government’s own making. They belie measured and ordered governance, which is central to the concept of due process enshrined in our Constitution.”

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m … story.html

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      One has to wonder if the constitution also requires that the children of drug dealers, thieves, drunk drivers, murderers and rapists accompany them to prison, too.  After all, "But, your honor, I only stole that television so my kids could have a better life!".

      1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
        JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        A very small percentage of Mexicans, Germans, Irish and English who cross our borders fit your description and those are the criminals the Obama Administration focused on, not innocent little toddlers fleeing atrocities happening in their countries of origin:

        We should ship the Trump family down to El Salvador for a few days and see if they suddenly have an epiphany:

        Genuinely worried about Rape and murder? Worry about and focus on American citizens first, they commit the most crime in this country:

        1. Live to Learn profile image83
          Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          What an unintelligent response. There are people here who commit crimes soooo let's not worry about foreign criminals coming in. Think first. Post afterward. Free advice.

          1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
            JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            lol, not bad advice from an individual who managed to publish 2 articles in 3 years: Anyway, if Americans commit the vast majority of crimes as they do, my focus would be on curing that epidemic, not tearing toddlers from their mother's arms and the Presbyterian Church agrees with me:

            Not sure how any Presbyterians could possibly still support this national disgrace called Trump after their church excommunicated him for this insane 3rd world style crime against humanity, but I'm sure there will still be a few stragglers who cross over to the dark side against the church's will:

            1. Live to Learn profile image83
              Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Last I read, your caim about the church is fake. That was pointed out to you, yet you continue to push it. Why would you expect anyone to trust someone who ignores facts? Just because you say it?

              1. JAKE Earthshine profile image77
                JAKE Earthshineposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                lol, save that ridiculous nonsense for the Trump cultees, I'm sure they'll believe it:

                1. Live to Learn profile image83
                  Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't have to believe everything that you regurgitate. Prove an allegation or move on to another rant.

 
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