Big Tech is censoring Free Speech

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   RJ Schwartzposted 5 years ago

   So the Masters of the Universe (Zuck, Jack, etc.) have decided to collude and cut InfoWars from all of their platforms - simultaneously as it seems, but unsubstantiated.  They do so with a list of fake reasons, but it sure looks like an attack on FREE SPEECH.
   
   Why such a fear of words or other opinions?  Why are goon squads out attacking people for their having opinions?  Remember that one person's fake news is another person's true belief - and this is America where everyone is entitled and encouraged to have their OWN opinions.
   
   Do you agree or disagree that America needs censorship?  Why or why not?

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      ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hi RJ , Censorship is a crazy thing   , Facebook , Twitter ,  whoever ..........It's obvious that the right is certainly and admittedly being shadow censured at this point , the government getting into this is just going to make it worse ,    Social media has changed the dynamics of where people get their info and that's probably not likely to change soon .  Mainstream media is suffering watching it's own death .
      We are definitely in scary times in America .

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      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      "Censorship" is an awfully strong word to use for saying "You will not post your garbage on MY website!". 
      
      Infowars is perfectly free to create their own venue to spread their message.  That a private business chooses not to allow their venue to be used is not "censorship" any more than a brick and mortar business that does not allow free application of posters to their windows.

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         RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Fair point, but when a site chooses to exclude some content but leaves other content, such as the posts of someone running for office, would you still agree?  Your opinion on what is garbage really doesn't have any bearing on the subject - justice is blind, remember.
         
         Facebook is not a website anyway - it's an open social media platform that allows anyone to publish content provided it meets the established guidelines.  Also, its a publicly held company, so your "private" argument also has no footing.

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            tsadjatkoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Ralph, the thing is the reasons Facebook gave for the ban has nothing to do with the accuracy of information. They say they will not take on the task of censoring “fake news” although they do put what they consider fake news at that back of the bus of information which virtually is censorship because nobody reads it then. I have to admit infowars does go over the top with sensationalizing theories that they know are more than questionable so if you ask me they brought this on themselves by opening that door to be banned and what is really sad is that now anything Jones presented that is conservAtive and accurate, which is a lot, will now be painted with the same brush they are being banned for.
            
            Now take the Prager University law suit, this is the kind of thing that really is discrimination on ideological basis
            
            https://www.prageru.com/press-release-p … rimination

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Nope.  It is a private business.  Whether owned by one person or a thousand it remains a private business.  Being a corporate entity does not give the public the right to use the business for their own billboard as they choose.  Again, will McDonalds or WalMart permit the KKK to post recruitment posters in their windows?
            
            Now if the government owned facebook it would be a different thing.

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               MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Wilderness, I think you just made a logical point. Censorship was first instituted by the government against the press, then laws were passed against it. There has been censorship against certain publications, for example, banning certain books, especially those that fall under public decency laws. However, social media platforms are just that. They are not being banned by the government. They have come to the realization that they are going to have to police themselves or perhaps the government might jump in and do it for them. Hopefully, we will see just how much of the political crap has come from Russian intervention when the Mueller probe is over. I think that is what they are afraid of. It would be scary to be hauled in front of congress to testify, as in the case of Zuckerburg.

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               tsadjatkoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               The thing is if those companies are using hate speech as the reason to boot Jones why is Louis Farrakhan not banned - can’t find any worse hate speech than that sicko.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Irrelevant.  There is no rule, legal or moral, that requires a business to make their venue to anyone that wants to use it.  They may ban some but not all, they may ban one but not another.  They may use the color of their hair as a reason or no reason at all.  It is their venue, not Jones's or Farrakhan's.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I got permanently kicked off of Twitter for citing FBI crime statistics concerning a particular demographic. 'Hate speech.' Stating facts is 'hate speech.'
      
      To Twitter's credit, the FBI is a hate organization with a horrific record of abusing citizens in the USA. So maybe citing anything the FBI says should be hate speech. I hate the FBI. Ever meet any of those people? I have. Worst humans imaginable.
      

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      Sychophantasticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Alex Jones is one of my heroes. I personally investigated the so-called Sandy Hook school attack and found that there was no credible evidence that those school shootings had occurred. We need people willing to speak the truth and when people censor us, it just makes us stronger.

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   Aime Fposted 5 years ago

   Alex Jones is a freaking maniac but I’ve never been personally bothered by people sharing anything from infowars. If anything it serves as a heads-up for which of my peers may have judgment impairments.
   
   That said, if his content did in fact violate their code of conduct then it’s completely fair game to remove it.

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   There are so many issues involved here that  depending on which party is victimized by censorship , the amounts of media driven and  sponsored instant outrage  would vary  accordingly .    Tell a leftist they can't gather , speak , march , print or  burn and destroy   anything,  watch the instant and total outrage .
   
   The right sits silent ? Go figure .

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      Sychophantasticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      The next thing you know, those sites will start censoring Fox News. It's a slippery slope. We need people like Alex Jones and Fox and Friends to tell it like it is. Laura Ingraham said it best last night. This isn't our country anymore. It's being overrun with immigrants. The concerns of real Americans are no longer being taken seriously. Rural America stood up and demanded to be heard and that's why Donald Trump was elected. We're sick and tired of immigrants getting everything they want. It's time for us to take our country back.

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         RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I think we'll see a slew of companies trying to silence opposition citing their "rules" as the basis.  YouTube is rumored to be clamping down already.  Yesterday I heard the Twitter alternative Gab.AI is under fire from Microsoft who is threatening to remove them from their platform.

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            Sychophantasticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Definitely. Political correctness is silencing true Americans from voicing their concerns. Soon, all we'll have on the internet is sites for asylum-seekers and welfare recipients.
            
            Alex Jones is one of the only voices out there telling it like it is and now liberals are doing everything they can to silence him.
            
            This is all a giant, deep state effort to silence President Trump. This censorship is all tied to the Mueller investigation. Threaten, harrass (the way of the liberal) and you bully people into being quiet. The Mueller investigation is the manifestation of bullying. People don't like what Trump has to say, so they do everything they can to force him to be quiet. This is what's happening to Alex Jones. People who speak their minds and who tell the truth are bullied into being quiet by any means necessary.

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               MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Where were all you people when Clinton was being bullied by the right? Shoe's on the other foot now, and it pinches. Even George H.W. Bush has become a good friend of Bill Clinton, so he can't be all bad.

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                  Sychophantasticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Remember when Bill Clinton had an affair in the White House with an intern, along with several other affairs, and liberals excused it away like "oh, that's just how he is?"
                  
                  An affair with an intern is grounds for firing from almost any company in the country now.
                  
                  But liberals still love Bill! It's just grandpa. He's a little handsy.
                  
                  Liberals decided that ethics and morals don't matter back then.

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                     ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

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