Free Insurance for all ... and while we're at it:

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   Free food for all.
   Free toys for all children.
   Free education for students 3-99 yrs.
   Free school lunches for all students 3 - 18 yrs.
   Free clothes for all.
   
   

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      gmwilliamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Great sardonic post, Kathryn.  Yes, there are those among us who feel that things are inherent human rights.   There are even some among us who will vehemently argue such points.  They contentiously declare that if it weren't for wealthy people who are "greedy", people can have all these things free.
      
      They assert that if there were no wealthy people, people would have FREE food, toys, education, lunches, & clothes.   They furthermore feel that if the wealthier classes were dismantled, poorer people would have free amenities such as food, education, toys, school lunches, etc.  They feel that the wealthy are at fault while the poor......AREN'T.
      
      However, smart/rational/MATURE people realize that nothing in life IS nor SHOULD be free.  The latter are of the school that one must work for the necessities & amenities of life.   People used to never believe that food, toys, education, clothes, etc. should be free.  They knew that they have to LABOR to get them.  They also knew that if they don't have enough, they would either work harder or did without.
      
      Now let me address another subject.  People use to see poverty as a temporary block.  They saw poverty as a way to do better if not for themselves but for their children.  They didn't see poverty as a permanent lifestyle.   They didn't expect wealthier classes to support them.  They WORKED if they wanted better & instilled in their children that they should be/do better.  But nowadays, the poor see poverty as a badge of honor.  They want the better lifestyle on behest of the government.  They believe that the government should support them in a middle class lifestyle.  There are those who go as far to want a......BASIC INCOME!  Can you imagine-a BASIC, FREE INCOME!?

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Well, sure. The person with a treatable disease can rest easy, knowing others might be starving.  It's one thing to understand we haven't found a way to afford a universal one payer system. It's another to announce you would never support it because,apparently, you don't care about the suffering of your fellow man.

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         It's never an either or or situation , no one goes without  health care in America , there are enough "blanket " securities" for all .    It is about  someone having to pay for others entitlement requests .

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            Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I disagree. Primarily, because the person who is down on their luck and embarrassed about their situation won't go to the doctor. Because they can't afford to go to the doctor. And, those who can pay are being bankrupted by illness.
            
            You can turn a blind eye to the needs of your fellow citizens. Those on the left can turn a blind eye to the failures of Obama care.

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I already stated that there are plenty of blanket opportunities for the poor , including a hospital assoc. programs for those who cannot pay , We pay for those too . Why do you suppose a bandaid applied in the hospital costs $47 dollars and out of the box costs .32 cents or so ?

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                  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  That disparity in pricing is one reason I advocate change. Left to their own sensibilities, these disparities are rampant within our healthcare system. Something has to be done.

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            gmwilliamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            SLAP ME! SLAP ME SILLY, Ahorseback, I again AGREE with you!   No one goes without health care.  If one couldn't pay in the past, there was a sliding scale.  There is still a sliding scale for those who can't pay!

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Nat. Studies just released show Vermont and W,Virginia as being the leading states in Babies being born with Opioid addictions in operating rooms , quadrupled between  1995 and 2014 ,   Who gets to pay for the additional  costs and "blanket securities " for health care in this situation , vermont for one has a higher percentage of families on state aid ?

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      Hxprofposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Sadly Kathryn, many now believe that one of the prime purposes of government is to solve the problems of life.  For many thousands of years humans everywhere struggled with life, and that remains so today in much of the world.  But in the west, someone at some point decided that so many people had so much money available (money they'd earned) that it was now possible to use their money to try to solve these problems. In countries where they've been doing this for a while, the people there have essentially "sold" themselves to the government...."yes, we'll take care of these things, but you'll do exactly as you're told".  It's a 'solution' with at least two problems: 1) You have to extract money from people to pay for it  2) You have to give up control of your own life to the government.  I say NO.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Because we are "civilized" (man depending on other man for their needs rather than the environment) human "Free food for all, Free toys for all children, Free education for students 3-99 yrs, Free school lunches for all students 3 - 18 yrs nor Free clothes for all" is unheard of. As https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omEPvzGmRrE implies and we can see in nature that few living animated life have diseases living environmentally.
      
      If we returned to environmental living food would only require our eating what is growing, cooking would not be a requirement, what toys children need the environment would provide, Life would educate everyone and it would a lifetime experience, not just long enough to be "schooled" into following our leaders to our own demise and we would regrow our hair eliminating the need of clothes. What a shame we don't see just how free human would be if we weren't schooled.

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         The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Because we are "civilized" (depending on other human for our needs rather than the environment) human don't have "Free food for all, Free toys for all children, Free education for students 3-99 yrs, Free school lunches for all students 3 - 18 yrs nor Free clothes for all," even the thought of it is unheard of. It is as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omEPvzGmRrE implies and we CAN see in nature, few environmentally living animated life have killing diseases (human are their enemy).
         
         If we returned to environmental living food would only require our eating what is growing, cooking would not be a requirement, what toys children need the environment would provide, Life would educate everyone and it would a lifetime experience, not just long enough to be "schooled" into following our leaders to our own demise and we would regrow our hair eliminating the need of clothes. What a shame we don't see just how free human would be if we weren't schooled.

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I got a kick out of your comment about the environment providing toys. I remember seeing children ripping apart fireflies to smear the remains on their fingernails for glow in the dark polish.
         
         Maybe, the environment would begrudge our fun.

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            The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Country people have a different sense of life. When I was a country child in North Louisiana, 1945-53, my toys were climbing trees, watching and studying various things in the environment, and some toys we made from "wagon wheel's hub rings and wire to guide them" with.Yes, we did catch butterflies and "lightening bugs" but we usually let them go. Once I discovered butterflies can't fly without the stuff that make their colors I stopped catching them.

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      Don Wposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I know you're being sarcastic, but I'm more optimistic. Who expresses my sentiments on this better than anyone? Charlie Chaplin (obviously).
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont … bVpDhW6kDQ

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   By the way "turning a blind "eye to me is paying for insurance that I seldom use because of my vigilance to being healthy  , where does that money go other than to care for others , perhaps Narcan applications ?

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Give it up. That's b's. Some of the healthiest living people I know have fought cancer. Irritated the heck out of them. Constantly whining 'but I do everything right!!'
      
      You and I are just lucky to be healthy and not need to see a doctor but once every few years, if that.

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   Don Bobbittposted 6 years ago

   I prefer to step back and look at these situations from 20,000 feet. The view from a higher altitude makes the individualized exceptions and problems not as visible.
   But what is visible to me are the politicians who take a problem and pollute their legal rules with their own petty modifications.
   It's so much easier to resolve a problem such as "there are children who don't get enough food to eat at school" with a mandate that there must be free meals for every child in school who says they're hungry.
   This sounds great, but if you walk into the schools at lunch time, there are well dressed kids eating right beside their parents and other family members. It gets turned into a billion dollar solution for a million dollar problem that is the ay it is because the politicians did not put the appropriate thought into their solution about how to monitor and manage just who gets this free food.
   And, before you jump on me for my "heartless comments" you should remember this; THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH MONEY AVAILABLE to solve such problems and what we do spend needs to be MANAGED SENSIBLY and just be tossed into our public systems for others to figure out.
   You see, that same county or city school system has other problems; low Teacher Salaries, Teachers having to spend their own money for their students school supplies, children with inadequate clothing, children without food at home, children without adequate help when they try to study at home, and on and on.
   Yes, I'm picking on politicians, but really, they are the "Fat Cats" who think they can just spend and spend without any fiscal responsibility for making things actually work better.  They took the job, snd they need to stand up and take the blame when they screw it up.
   DON

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I largely agree with your points. That said, I know enough politicians to believe that they are doing what they are told to do by voters and campaign contributors.
      
      If we want to change politician behavior, we need informed voters and contributors who care more about the country and less about themselves.

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years ago

   
   
   Put a socialist in charge of the sea shore and we'd run out of sea shells.

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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Nailed it again Wesman !

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Nah. The bureaucracy created to spearhead the effort would hire the wrong people, bus them to South Dakota and then blame the capitalists for not meeting their quota.

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