The 2018 NFL preseason started last week (yes, I was just as surprised as you were) and although game #1 went on without any issues, game #2 reminded everyone that the kneeling issue hasn't been resolved. It's no secret that attendance and viewership numbers are both falling as a direct result of the behavior.
Will we see continued decline in support for the NFL? If you are no longer following the NFL, is there anything the league could do to get your support back? What other thoughts do you have on the topic?
And they've now got a male cheerleader somewhere, I hear. I think I'll just take a hard pass on the NFL. Baseball is the only sport I need.
I heard that male cheerleader announcement - like we needed another reason to turn it off. I used to be a huge fan - even had a Green Bay Packer helmet tattooed on my arm, but since this kneeling thing, I've not returned and even had new ink to cover that symbol of stupidity
Hi Ralph - I have no tattoos to cover, but I ‘hear’ you.
My former team, the Dolphins, are back at it...I am so done!
I am with Wes, let’s go Red Sox!
LOL, rhe snowflakes can't handle a citizen displaying their patriotism in a manner that differs from their point of view.
I'm fine with all you pretend patriots boycotting football. The rest of us will enjoy it more.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."
"True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else."
Well, well, the panther appears...
Do you think the "done" folks are like the "I'm moving to Canada" folks?
Remember when teenagers used to drag the hall phone into the closet? I wonder if there will be other closet occupants now?
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Everyone has their line in the sand, GA. Apparently, kneeling during the anthem is just TOO MUCH for them to bear. Oh, and male cheerleaders.
I periodically worry over how my love of football contributes to serious head trauma among the players I love, but then I rationalize that they are grown men choosing to play football despite the risks.
Everybody has their line....
I had a line once, but I crossed it, and haven't found my way back since.
GA
I'm sure those against the players kneeling jump to attention and salute the flag at home to show their patriotism. NOT!!
Yes, their outrage is selective, isn't it? I've been to many sporting events, including football. Many people talk through the anthem, don't stand, eat, or simply ignore it. I'm sure quite a few are sitting on the crapper while listening to it being played. Selective outrage.
Selective outrage .............kind of like a hundred million dollar contracted NFL player who'd discriminated against when the go buy their Maserati ,
cigarette boat or Beverly Hills mansion ?
Mommy says ", Don't you get that clean NFL uniform dirty on the knees now son "
Yea , They're all outraged alright , I can tell you a few other things they are too .
NFL is OFF in my house , I'm part of the profit losses based entirely on moron politics from celebrities . You know ? The ones who promised to go to Canada or elsewhere and reneged ?
People kneeling during anthems... male cheerleaders... boy, life sure sounds rough for you guys.
Bottom line - I guess if you can't attract a NFL crowd by playing football - then you might as well kneel down .Ratings have dropped considerably , keep up the great corporate sales tactic .
When what they do comes off as a slap in the face to all Veterans, past and present...
When questioned as to why they do it, they've no particular good reason...
It reminds me of when my kids were little and one would be the instigator, the others would follow instigator's lead. When busted, "well he did it first" or "she did it first" or my personal favorite..."but nobody got hurt". My response would be, "that doesn't mean you should do it, that doesn't make it right."
To the ladies in this thread that don't see this as a problem, that's your perogative.
As a matter of principle, I cannot support what has become {at this point} a slap in America's face.
When they start acting like men, I may give them another chance.
When what they do comes off as a slap in the face to all Veterans, past and present...
U.S. Army veteran Nate Boyer convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel, rather than sit, while protesting police brutality during the national anthem.
Boyer: We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammate. Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother’s grave, you know, to show respect. When we’re on a patrol, you know, and we go into a security halt, we take a knee, and we pull security.
Kaepernick:
After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former NFL player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, the next day during the anthem as a peaceful protest. We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy.
Btw
If anyone should be taking a knee right now, it's Police Officers. Not a day seems to pass without news of another attack on another Police Officer or Police Officers. But, they'll not take a knee...they take their jobs very seriously!
My husband and I have started watching Live P.D. on t.v. and the restraint shown by these men and women is admirable! There was an episode last night in which a suspect kept coming, the Police Officer must have yelled drop the knife about a dozen times. K-9 Units will warn they're sending the dog several times, before they send the dog. (I'll admit, I doubt I could show such restraint toward the many punks (all colors, both sexes) that have no respect for anything whatsoever, certainly not Authority) I love that these shows are giving a glimpse into what it's really like for Police Officers.
They are in my prayers daily!
It is okay to support the police and appreciate the dangerous and difficult nature of their jobs while also acknowledging that there are numerous incidents of police brutality and unnecessary killings for which police are not being held accountable.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
I've never cared for football, probably because it was a sport that we girls weren't allowed to play. (How times have changed.) So they've never had me to lose.However, I don't think that sports are the appropriate place for prayers, patriotism or lack there of, protests, or any other American hoopla. Why did all of that start in the first place?
The Patriotism dates back to the 1918 World Series.
The protests started when Obama was President.
"When questioned as to why they do it, they've no particular good reason... "
After the game, during an interview with NFL.com, Kaepernick explained that the move was a protest over how the country treats black people and people of color.
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color," Kaepernick said. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."
https://www.businessinsider.com/colin-k … hem-2016-8
Sounds like a particular good reason to me.
Mountains have been made of mole hills...the lie of the century has been repeated so often, people believe it actually happened...'Hands up, don't shoot' and that's why Police Officers have become targets. I don't believe all Police Officers are Saints, but they don't deserve what they are faced with day in and day out and with minimal pay to boot!
God forbid they someday have their fill and take a knee!
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