The U.S.Democratic Party a/k/a U.S. Leftist Socialist Part

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   gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

   
   Conservatives Only- The Democratic Party in America is becoming very extreme, even radical & revolutionary in its political stance.  They want a socialist agenda for America in terms of universal healthcare, & creating even more social programs which will further cripple America socioeconomically.  Their poster child, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez wants free healthcare, free college, & other free amenities.  Well, Americans are becoming disgusted w/the current Democratic Party. How far left is the current U.S. Democratic Party?   This party is becoming more socialistic each day!
   
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      JAKE Earthshineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I guess "Socialism" is just fine and dandy when CONservative Republicans implement it right? But you cry, whine and have episodes of tizzy fits when Democrats try to take care of ALL Americans:
      
      Bozo Trump's / Republican's Socialism Programs: Giving BILLIONS to Farmers to help them get through a major crisis which Bozo Trump CAUSED Himself with his INSANE Trade War Tariffs which are a tax on ALL Americans:
      
      I'm not complaining, I'm in support of helping our farmers get through Bozo Trump's hopefully short era of nightmares, just pointing out your HYPOCRISY and that FACT that both parties implement socialism at different points in time:
      
      BIG CONservative Republican Socialism: 
      
      "Trump administration follows through with second round of promised farm bailout payments"
      
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business … 863849ae6d

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         Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

         A most fitting touché, Jake,
         
         Thanks.

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      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      OK, So Alexandra goes too far. I think most reasonable people agree with that. I think, the Democratic party has gone a little off kilter because of Washington. They don't agree on anything, they don't compromise on anything. For the last decade all we've done is pay people to go there and enrich themselves while the rest of us have waited patiently for government to function for the American people.
      
      I don't see one district electing her as any different from the populace electing Donald Trump. We are all sick of politics as usual. We are all going to extremes to make that point loud and clear to the powers that be. If they don't listen soon and get off their butts and on to the business of working together to guide the ship it's going to get worse. Not better.
      
      Edit. I don't give a hoot whether or not Alex from the Bronx introduces legislation that turtles are people too, at least she appears passionate and if she doesn't use her position to line her pockets I'll applaud her.

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         There is such a thing as being passionate but be logical too.  People really don't give a rat's behind about passion as long as there is logic present.  Anyone can be passionate but it takes a mature person have logic & passion.   Cortez is an immature child-people are seeing this.

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            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I'll grant you she seems unrealistic and illogical. I say give her a chance to fly or fall. Hopefully, she'll learn and mature. If she remains idealistic that learning process could help younger people to understand why wants aren't always possible and learn to channel those desires into doable things that will be good for the nation as a whole.

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               gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I don't believe that Cortez will change.   She staunchly believes in her socialistic premise & will endeavor to have those principles come to fruition.  She is part of the entitled millennial generation.   She believes in her utopic vision.  She wants EVERYONE to have a comfortable lifestyle.  She wants everything to be free to everyone.    She feels that healthcare, college tuition, & everything should be either very low cost or free like her mentor Bernie Sanders.  Bernie is in his 60s & he still believes his utopian nonsense-what makes you think that Cortez, his protegee, will change her views?!

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                  Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I would think once someone explains to the little darling that the world isn't ending in 12 years she might decide she has time to learn a few things. Maybe not.
                  
                  Still, she deserves a chance to sink or swim.

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               .. not if she's receiving some advantage to stay exactly as she is.

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                  gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Kathryn, Cortez is 28.  She is too old to be this clueless.  It is beyond unforgivable to be so clueless.  C'mon now!

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                     Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Too young to be so clueless? You've got geriatric adults in this forum who appear completely clueless. Have you tried to hold a conversation with either of the left wing contributers in this thread, alone?
                     
                     She was elected to office in her district. I grant you looks and energy have to have gotten her elected because she appears incredibly short on brains. But, not that short for the party she represents.
                     
                     Remember the congressman who thought Guam would tip over? Democrat. Crazy Nancy Pelosi? Considering the company she chose to keep, she is average ignorant.
                     
                     So, she was elected to office by her constituency. Graciously, accept their insanity. Certainly, hope that district fields an intelligent candidate but maybe that district is full of people too ignorant to understand an intelligent candidate. Maybe ignorance is their norm. If so, she is the perfect candidate to say she is of those people, by those people and for those people.

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                        GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Well damn Live to Learn, how's the view from up there?
                        
                        "...incredibly short on brains. "
                        
                        "... district is full of people too ignorant to understand ..."
                        
                        "... Maybe ignorance is their norm."
                        
                        And you say this because you disagree with their perspective?
                        
                        Are you really comfortable with a comment like this representing your perspective?
                        
                        GA

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                           Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           No. I was a little perturbed by Randy's sexist comment. I went a little off. Some of the sound bites on Alex are bizarre but even if a true indication of her ideas it doesn't matter.
                           
                           She won the election fair and square. Even if bizarre she has won the right to share them.

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   Aime Fposted 5 years ago

   Are you striving to replace ahorseback while he’s away, gm? Because I don’t think most of us really miss him all that much....

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      PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe horse/Ed hijacked her account.

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      IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      My thoughts exactly! LOL (She already did, IMO)

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         There's an ahorseback in some form on every political forum.

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Nope,  I merely detest what the Democratic Party is becoming.   I see the Democratic Party catering to the lower socioeconomic classes.  They are getting the health benefits.  They are also benefitting from the social programs which my taxes are supporting.   The Democratic Party is doing nothing for the middle classes whatsoever.  In fact, the Democratic Party is screwing the middle classes in terms of health insurance.  The Democratic Party is the party of the poor, not the middle class.  That is what I am saying.
      
      
      Also, in terms of health care-many middle class people are uninsured because the premiums for health care under the ACA are skyrocketing.  Health insurance was fine before Obama decided to implement the ACA.  The Democratic Party believes in rescuing people- think about welfare & other social programs.  As a result of welfare, there are people who view welfare as a lifestyle.  They expect to be supported.   There are so many inane social programs such as free school breakfasts & lunches- where are the parents- it is their job to feed their children, not the government.
      
      What the Democrats fail to believe is that the government isn't their parents.  People ought to be responsible enough to look after themselves, not expect to be taken care off.  If stupid social programs & ACA were either reduced or cut, the middle class wouldn't be so straddled & society would be better off.  The Democratic Party has created a class of freeloaders.

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   gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

   I don't blindly accept the premise my party, right or wrong. I see the good & bad in the Democratic Party.  Just because I am a Democrat doesn't mean that I will go along w/its policies although such policies are detrimental socioeconomically.   I am discerning & will criticize what I see is wrong.  I am not one to go along to get along.  If I am unpopular because of this, SO BE IT!  I never cared about the popular stance, I believe in saying & doing what is right!

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Don't you mean, "saying & doing what is right," in your own mind?

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         There are such things as principles.  Expecting the government to pay for healthcare, education(college), welfare, etc. isn't right.  People are supposed to pay for these things on their dime, not the government's dime.  The government is here to enforce laws, not to be a cash cow to people who can do things for themselves.

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   gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

   She will most likely to...……...SINK.   A leopard never changes its spots!

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   Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

   RRRRRR-OW!   Jealous old kitty cats...…     

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      PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I know. "Little darling"? What is this, 1950?

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         Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Yeh. They was 1950s sounding. It's getting harder and harder to not keep my tongue in my cheek hard while defending the right of a duly elected person to perform a job without being harassed by the opposition.

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      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Wow. That's pretty sexist sounding Randy. I always suspected you were just a party man who didn't care about the ideals the party espouses. I bet it's hard on you. I read a study that postulated the death of the Neanderthals came about by an inability to survive long when a woman stepped out of the field and threw a spear farther than the guys could. They just couldn't adapt. They pretended everything was cool, for a while, but didn't really believe it. The race died out soon after because the males couldn't embrace reality.

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         LOL! Quite a fictional history lesson, LTL. It's more likely Cro-Magnon wiped them out to rid themselves of the competition. Good try though.

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            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, you are several studies behind on speculation as to the disappearance of the Neanderthal but that spear throwing comment was fiction. Your remark being sexist was fact.

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   Onusonusposted 5 years ago

   

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Bernie was deemed too radical for the Democratic Party at the time.  The Democratic Party wanted a more acceptable candidate, Clinton, which would appeal to a broader Democratic base.

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