Let's Be REAL Here, People

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   gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago

   
   Rags to riches seldom happened in America.  People are born into & remain in their socioeconomic classes.  Nowadays, with the socioeconomic class divide as pronounced as ever, there is significantly less mobility regarding social classes than ever before.  Since the 1970s, people who are born into the lower socioeconomic classes are slated to remain there as adults.  People who are rich nowadays were mostly born rich.  Poor people seldom become middle class, let alone wealthy.  Your thoughts on socioeconomic class mobility?

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      lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      That's not true in my family. Only one sibling remained poor and that is because she refuses to get a job and lives off my parents. But I think it is a mental health issue for her, as she received the highest education in my family.
      
      I think you are correct in a general sense though.
      
      Only the brightest and/or the most ambitious will succeed. I just happen to have very bright and ambitious siblings.

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         gmwilliamsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         You are right...…..

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         The0NatureBoyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         But, Love the Rain, what is success to one person isn't success to another. What I consider success, as http://prop1.org/protest/elijah/author.htm#book expresses, is no where near what the average person would ever consider as success.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Survival is the new success. It can't be helped in this day and age. I hope  gmwilliam's world, where anyone who is educated, disciplined and ambitious can succeed, continues to flourish. If the radical left has their way, it won't.

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               gmwilliamsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               +1000000000000000000000000000000000

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               Misfit Chickposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               The same could be said of the radical right - and both groups are in the minority. Most people exist in variations between the extremes, something that neither hyped left-wing nor right wing news affiliates want people to realize - simply because allllllllllllll the fighting is so profitable. AND we fall for it every damn time, LoL!

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  "The term 'extreme right' is used to describe right-wing political, social and religious movements that exist outside of and are more radical than mainstream conservatism.
                  
                  In the United States, the extreme right consists primarily of two large, slightly overlapping spheres. In one sphere is the white supremacist movement, including its various submovements, such as neo-Nazis, racist skinheads, and the alt right, among others.
                  
                  In the other sphere are anti-government extremist movements such as the militia movement and sovereign citizens (collectively, this sphere is often referred to as the “Patriot” movement). Also in the extreme right are several “single-issue” movements, which each tend to be the extreme wing of a more mainstream conservative movement; these include anti-abortion extremists, anti-immigrant extremists, anti-Muslim extremists, and anti-public lands extremists, among others."
                  
                  FROM: https://www.adl.org/resources/glossary- … -far-right

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                     The0NatureBoyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     But if religion was truly defined as suggested in the Bible and Buddhism as the way of life that teaches one the meaning to life  religion would not be included in 'extreme rights' definition. I am religious in the true sense of the word and that's why I live as close to environmentally as this nation will allow. Otherwise, I rather agree with your presentation.

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                        Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Exactly

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            lovetherainposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed, but you know GM is addressing socioeconomic success in this post.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      GMW, Wouldn't it be best to focus on what the Constitution's Preamble require, a Perfected Union? Where is there unity in classes? Why should someone's economic status be considered a class when classes usually takes away from some people's Tranquility? So, To be real you want to continue to trample the Constitution like the government is already doing? Or is it that you don't respect the constitution because you want the selfish prestige your having more economics than some others cause you to feel concerning yourself? 
      
      If you want to get real why not recognize everyone as equals and work to establish that type mentality in yourself and encourage in others since classes are unconstitutional.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   "Far Left
   Also known as the extreme left, ultra left or radical left, this term is often used pejoratively (and sometimes simply descriptively) to refer to politics further on the left of the left-right spectrum than the mainstream political left. This often includes anarchists and communists - and a higher degree of leftism generally.  Often anti-property, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist, anti-liberal, and anti-conservative.
   
   More substantively, this term is used to refer to people who declare a total opposition to capitalism or property, such as anarchists and some Marxists.  The term is also used to refer to those who offer a highly critical analysis of capitalism, e.g. of capitalism as inevitably leading to great inequality, lack of social mobility for most, destruction of the environment, and the domination of labor and of small businesses by enormous oligopoly firms with great political power.
   
   For conservatives, the term ‘far left’ is used pejoratively to refer to anyone thought to be in favor of a government 'takeover' of 'everything.'  Popularly associated with Marxism, these ideas typically evoke automatic condemnation and fear from many Americans on the right - ‘hasn’t this already been tried in the USSR?’ To those on the left, however, this reflects profound misunderstanding not only of Marxism but leftist thought generally - as well as a silencing and discrediting of liberal and leftist voices in society as merely 'extreme.'"
   https://www.allsides.com/dictionary/far-left

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   I think the public (those who are democrats) has been influenced more by the far left than the far right.
   
   And by the way, I do not agree with what is considered extreme as far as the "extreme right." Much misinformation is being put forth on the internet in regards to what the far right actually is.

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