An Even DEEPER Question, Part II

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   gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

   
   Socioeconomic class is the underlying root of almost everything in America.  The so-called racial & ethnic chasm has its underlying roots in socioeconomics.  It really doesn't matter what race &/or ethnic group one belongs to, if one is wealthy, h/she can afford unlimited access to the best schools, health care, & other life amenities regardless of race & ethnic group.   Do you believe that the prime underlying social problem & discrimination in America is based upon socioeconomic class or it based upon race &/or ethnic group.  To go even further, are the social problems a COMBINATION of race &/or ethnic group?  Or are there OTHER factors beyond one's race &/or ethnic group?

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      Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Grace, i have found this profound article that clearly reflects my position on your topic, and accurately describes the true nature of Trump and the motivation of his followers.
      
      It explains the "mix" between socio-economic verses race as a driving force in American politics. One certainly cannot be dismissed with considering the other.
      
      It is a bit of a stretch as a long article but it is an enlightening read
      
      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar … on/546356/

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         MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I read most of it, but finally gave up because of the time frame to read it. I think it can be summed up in one sentence:  The white middle class is frustrated because it is disintegrating with the haves getting richer and the have nots getting poorer. Then we have the rich who support Trump because his policies are making them richer, and the poor support Trump because they mistakenly think he gives them hope.
         
         The frustrated middle class (notice I left out "white" because there are some black voters who support Trump) knows through history that communism does not work, so they can't turn to that kind of revolution. I think people are just frustrated and don't know what do do, so Trump supporters are grasping at straws in their support of him.

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            gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I had a discussion w/my late mother more than 4 decades ago. She indicated that there will only be TWO classes in America, the very wealthy & the very poor.  The middling or the formerly middle class is shrinking due to increased specialization in education & skills.  Those w/the specialized, even advanced education & skills will become richer while those w/o specialized skills & education will become poorer.

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Read the article.    Duke-------->Trump.   People who feel that they are socioeconomically disenfranchised will vote for someone who will give them socioeconomic stability, regardless of the his/her moral character.  Look at Germany during the late 1920s,  the Germans were totally disenfranchised socioeconomically & voted for Hitler, who was a vicious demagogue who promised them the world like Duke & Trump.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   GM I like your questioning more than anyone on Hugepage. Because they are not shallow your aim is deeper to the source of problem. I will give my part 1 opinion and part 2 later.
   
   Living in LA, Virginia and Florida and making most of my money was made in the US. Where most on this site when it comes about America, they ingnore me because I am Canadian.
   
   I was kicked out of a Florida town for major featuring Colombus as America first Pirate in a pirate museum on Colombus day. Alot about America Source is from a Pirate Economy. Today the secret societies of US corp are the new Pirates and leading US by mind control. A president leads a corporation, not a country.
   
   1. Columbus was not even the first white man to discover America.
   2. Columbus was the first European to start the gold rush.
   3. He was the First European to enslaved the natives.
   4. First to bring Christainity.
   5. First European to start the greatest genocide in Human history ( native Americans)
   
   I made a pirate museum in Florida, with Columbus being the major feature. After claiming Columbus was the first pirate in North America. They threw me out of town on Columbus Day.
   
   Then a black man asked me to build the first American black history museum. I said, are you trying to get me killed. Blacks in History have pushed for demoncracy than any race, because America is not a true Demoncracy.

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      MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Most of the stuff you said here is true. Did you know that historians are trying to prove that the Irish were here even before Eric the Red (which was around 1000 A.D.)? They are studying archeological digs that contain what has been identified as ancient Celtic writing.
      
      But your last sentence points out something a lot of people, including U.S. citizens, don't know. The U.S. is not a true democracy; it is a democratic republic. Note the wording in the pledge of allegiance: "I pledge allegiance to the flag ..., and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands."

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Democratic republic is a form of government operating on principles adopted from a republic and a democracy. Rather than being a cross between two entirely separate systems, democratic republics may function on principles shared by both republics and democracies.
         
         Is that why there is only a two party system from the beginning time of America. Which US Corp takes over most control due to Lincoln's assassination. Causing emergency Marshal law warfare to continue up to today.
         
         I built the history of Oklahoma museum like display in cement in Oklahoma city. Because of one stone they claimed they had Vikings who lived there 1000 years ago. I was kind of force politically to add in a viking display amoung 20 Oklahoma displays in a historical story about OK. At the time I did not know, today I don't think so.
         
         I don't know about the Irish, they tell really wild tale tales. Lol.

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            MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            CP, these tales are based on archaeological evidence, not hearsay. Otherwise how do you explain very similar, or perhaps even identical, manmade structures and housewares, as well as writings and hieroglyphics in different parts of the world. Rather than try to reason them, some people just scoff at them because they don't want to leave their comfort zones and question their belief systems.

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               Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I am keen on North American ancient and modern history.
               
               Had not heard of it, yet will look into it. First check into black Irish.

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               Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               National geographic did a study that showed some Vikings settled in Ireland. Norwegian Vikings DNA = 7% Irish DNA.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Don't tell that to my Irish friends. They think there is only two kinds of people in this world.
                  
                  The Irish,  and people who wish they were Irish.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   European came to America to be free, by enslaveing the blacks. Before civil war in many southern states there were more blacks than whites. For 400 years of slavery.  Not until blacks could first vote in 1965 to be more part of the top system. Today a new kind of salvery called prisons and the same corrosion, not as cruel as Kings were. War solves nothing, yet American keeps useing it for ethics cleazing. The English language countries have been the most barbaric throughout most of modern history. The world veiws are rapidly changing from war cleazing and racial decriminalization even for Americans. Canada is a more of a capitalist/ socialist system of mosaic equality of culture and race, yet Corporation-ism are stealing power also .  America is more like an international airport and the color is green. The US Government is a corporation and the people will easily follow. Although their are grey area systems that are at work, shifting the powers.
   
   Positive change for most any country comes from grass roots to the hearts and minds of the majority. Not from the greedy power of the wealthy from the top down.

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your responses, Castlepaloma.

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      Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Canada sounds more attractive to me by the day, however the Missus would have a problem with the northern climate.
      
      This comment of yours sums things up pretty well...

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you,
         
         I find your veiws interesting

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   16.Greater challenges and passionate experiences you won't find anywhere else. No career hamster wheel. you wear multiple hats and play a variety of roles. 
   18. If business slows down, have other irons in the fire. With diversity, it will not die, making adjustments to survive, it more often theives. 
   19. Work with brilliant minds & connect with intelligent people worldwide in team an relationships. Create a legacy of a successful life in personal and business. My favorite thing to carve is a smile  to millions of people. 
   20. Most entrepreneures I know are more unique rather than fighting the competitions all the time.
   21. No age barrier, your mind is utilized from ideas, responsibility, to dreams with deadlines. Did it!!!! my waaayyy
   No blame game. Knowing most important decision have  plan A ,& B with motivation daily.
   22.  Your not undervalued. no worries your ideas will make it because not many higher position or suggestions to stop you and there is always other clients who will like your idea.

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   23. Greater challenges and passionate experiences you won't find anywhere else. No career hamster wheel. you wear multiple hats and play a variety of roles. 
   24. If business slows down, have other irons in the fire. With diversity to not die, making adjustments to survive more often theives. 
   25. Work with brilliant minds & connect with intelligent people worldwide in teams and relationships. Create a legacy of a successful life in personal and business. My favorite thing to carve is a smile  to millions of people. 
   26. Most entrepreneures I know are more unique rather than fighting the competitions all the time.
   27. Making people happy and you never hit a ceiling. Stiff have a growth cap, only advance so far. Entrepreneur, no growth ceiling and loving it makes the money come easier, it’s a win-win situation.
   28. Feeling appreciated in a positive way. Having your own security system and controlling your own destiny. Don't stress over wrong people in charge of your life.Constantly learning good lessons, education that you can’t get in a classroom. 
   No fears of downsizing or layoff, stiff get this all the time, this stressfulness can take a decade or two off your life

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   Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

   Finally
   
   29. You push the envelope, no boundaries to create, you invent brilliant ideas. No end to curiosity where stiffs curiosity can kill a cat,
   30. Be your own best leader in the world.
   No more boring meetings, nobody to blame but yourself. Mediation and press acknowledgement fuels your inner fire and great promotions. Your provider for employees, services & growth as an individual and entrepreneur is behind it. 
   31. Solving problems had much to do with your happiness. Solve any problem in front of you a
   With resourcefulness
   32. Feels like hard play, not work. Even a few of your disabilities can’t stop you. Endless life experiences, travel & meet different people all the time. You develop to take a punch and give it. Walk on the wild side, live life to the fullest. Dream big without dream you may loose your mind.  Make your own chances for Luck, been lucky in love and in life .
   
   Can you beat mine with a list over 32 pros about working stiffs?

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      TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

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         Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         One thing we can agree on , is running a smaller businesses is easier on the Earth's footprint and balanced relationship.
         
         Don't support Corporationism and never was myself. I
         Don't fully Expose myself here, because dedicating the last 10 years to legalizing Marijuana as the best known medicine on the planet. Also building tiny house eco communities leave me between huge grey areas to being Illegal, yet things are booming now.
         
         The synthetic world dose not play fair. Poverty and environmental go hand and hand are the two greatest killers. It is dream with deadlines to focus on the green Revolution.  Posted 3 about Greta and some about Religion because my last few christain girlfriends dumped me because I can not be saved.
         
         I't seems our experiences with our own circles, has not been the same. The most successful, happy entrepreneur and environmentist I know of, are anarchists. Labels don't stick on me, whatever works. If in anyway our group adds to the gross national product of happiness. We will be further happiness and continue of as grass root pioneers from the bottom up and love it. Happiness has most to do with solving problems. Like with health and carrying no regrets. Money has the least to do with happiness.
         
         From leaving 20 full time employees and a hundred sand and snow sculptors contractors to downsizing to a environment bussiness. Gives me lots more time to write explore, share and vent. If you don't like it, I care enough to say, tough.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

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               Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I love science and research (hope love is not just a 4 letter word) Most people need to be more careful on where they get their stats and polls.
               
               We are more back to being agreeable on a few most important topics.
               
               Starting a totally
               all natural manufacturing plant of houses 120 sq ft in eastern Canada.  Got a few 20 sq ft shelters for homeless, too small for your luggage.  On up to my 300sq ft house in Belize self sustainable water and solar. Starting another one in Colombia. All places now have very little interferences from the Government. Mostly drive an electric bike, even in the winter. Working on reducing air travel.

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