A BIG Question

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  1. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago

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    President Trump seems to be quite blasé about his impeachment.   Trump contends that he won't be impeached as there is a Republican senate majority who has his back.   There are those who vehemently believe that because of the partisan nature of the impeachment, Trump will win big in 2020.   Do you believe that the impeachment will hurt or harm the Democratic Party in 2020 & in future years?   Conversely, do you believe that the impeachment will stain the Republican party in 2020 & in future years?  Why?  Why not?

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      It begins to appear that Pelosi is going to try and hold off until after Trump is re-elected and then try and claim he is impeached.

      Rather than harm the Republican party it appears more and more that they will come out of the farce way ahead.   When their primary opposition is more interested in playing political games than performing their required duties, and the Republicans shut them down, it could be quite a feather in their cap.

      Now if only the R's would quit playing games and get to business...

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        PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Three-quarters of those surveyed want to hear from witnesses in the Senate trial, so I fail to see how Mitch's proclaimed goal of protecting the president by calling no witnesses will help the GOP.

        Like I keep saying, bring in Bolton, Pompeo, Mulvaney, and Giuliani to testify under oath that Trump is innocent of all charges as he has proclaimed. That would make the Democrats look like rabid, partisan fools and clinch another four years for Trump and  return the House to GOP control.

        Call Mitch and urge him to end this nonsense.

        1. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          IMHO Democrats aready look like rabid, partisan fools and have already virtually clinched another four years for Trump.  R's may even regain control of the House, who knows?

          There just seems no reason at all to give the D's purely partisan farce any credit at all.  Ignore it to the maximum extent possible (simply vote on the non-evidence they've provided) and move on with real business.  Playing their silly political games can only serve to provide some legitimacy to those games - something we don't need.

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            It seems odd that you would think it counterproductive to definitively settle the question of the president's guilt or innocence once and for all.

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              His guilt is unproven; at this time it is only the overactive imaginations of Democrats wishing to remove him from the next election that gives any hing of guilt.

              So why would it be "productive" to attempt and prove a negative?  It is already assumed true under our justice system, and negatives are notoriously hard to prove.  Why waste the time, then, with nothing to gain?  Besides, nothing could ever be said or found that will convince the Trump haters out there - they don't care about guilt or innocence, only that he not be re-elected.

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                PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                "....at this time it is only the overactive imaginations of Democrats wishing to remove him from the next election that gives any hing of guilt." You forgot  multiple  credible people who testified under oath.

                The rest is just your nonsensical opinion.

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Not a single "witness" testified that they read his mind and discovered his purpose was to affect the next election.  THAT was the crime, and it purely imagination by the Dem's.

                  It is "nonsensical" that it is difficult to prove a negative?  Any student of logic will deny that.  That Trump haters actually care about the truth?  If they did, they wouldn't be insisting that he was guilty, and would not have begun crying for impeachment 2 years before the crime happened, now would they?

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                    PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    This is just silly. If my husband says, I'd love a grilled cheese sandwich I know for absolute certainty he is asking me to make him one. Sondland and others knew exactly what Trump wanted.

                    You're expecting thinking people to suspend reason to give your man a sliver of unreasonable doubt. I know that works for you Trumpeters because you've made a habit of it, but the rest of us prefer to
                    exercise our reason.

                  2. Randy Godwin profile image59
                    Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    I buy logic problem books by the dozen Dan, and I've witnessed plenty of evidence against Trump during the hearings. His lack of furnishing witnesses and documents say a lot about his quilt or innocence.

                    I can see no reason why the highly respected witnesses would simply lie about their testimony. Perhaps you can explain why Vindman was unbelievable and why he would lie?

                    Again with the Limbaugh/Hannity "hater" charge. Just like the House Republicans, you have nothing left to defend the criminal with.

      2. Eastward profile image67
        Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I've also seen speculation that Pelosi is holding back the articles of impeachment in order to time a Senate trial against the favor of the progressive Senators, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren (since their senatorial duties would take precedent and keep them out of upcoming debates). Of course it's just speculation at this point, but if that would come to pass, the Democrats will lose a lot of support from their own base.

  2. TessSchlesinger profile image60
    TessSchlesingerposted 4 years ago

    I believe that the absence of morality and ethics have so vanished from the political viewpoint in the USA that impeachment counts for nothing.

    For many years now, the real battle in the USA hadn't been about right and wrong, but about win and lose.

    It doesn't matter how you win, do long ad you win.

    With that ethos in mind, I think Trump will win 2020 because, as a result of the way voting blocks have been organised, the system is rigged in favour of Republicans.

    I find it sad because the USA has list the respect of the western world.

  3. ginosblog profile image62
    ginosblogposted 4 years ago

    So true. Everything the dem's have done they have accused President Trump of the exact same thing. Personally, I hope the Democratic Party dissappears. They have not stopped lying since Lincoln.

 
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