Virginia Protesters Show How to Protest, Northam Claims Credit

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   Live to Learnposted 4 years ago

   Over 20,000 pro gun 2nd Amendment supporters showed up in Richmond. No violence. They picked up their trash and even scraped stickers off of the sidewalk before they left.
   
   Northam praises law enforcement for de-escalating a potentially violent situation.
   
   You have to laugh.

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I've seen claims that some white supremacists had planned to attend and cause violence, and that the police canceled their plans for them.  If true they probably DO deserve at least some praise.
      
      But the vast bulk of the praise goes to the demonstrators - can't remember when ANY group went to the lengths they did to maintain peace and then go so far as to clean up their own mess.

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         Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. I was shocked to see counter protesters allowed into that main crowd. I personally raised an eyebrow. The police usually do a great job of keeping groups separated. It made me wonder if Northam wanted violence to break out.
         
         But, I was very disappointed in the interviews of politicians I heard. They claim Virginia wants this. 20000 is a large crowd and is just the tip of the iceberg.

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            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            *shrug*  Richmond probably does want this.  So does Norfolk and the Washington suburbs.  As we see over and over, the large metropolitan centers will force their will on everyone else, regardless of circumstances and without regard to the different lifestyle or culture.  They simply don't care that their more rural citizens don't want the city life or philosophy.
            
            This is something I rather expect see come to a head in the next couple of decades - it is becoming more and more apparent as the cities simply run roughshod over everyone else.

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               Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               This won't address the violence in the cities. Your average gang member, drug pusher, convenience store robber, home invader. etc. don't use legally procured weapons or long rifles. It has been proven, repeatedly, that gun control measures do not stop those crimes and could exacerbate the problem.
               
               Statistics show, overwhelmingly,  gun violence kills people of color at an alarming rate. Measures to control the weapon of choice for the majority of violent crime committed have been unsuccessful.
               
               I get that city people are scared of the environment they live in. But pushing policies which created the environment they live in outside of their borders is more likely to allow their violence to spread out, thus making our world less safe and having no positive effect on theirs.
               
               The left appears to be incapable of understanding cause and effect. They appear incapable of thinking outside of the government box. Their answer to every problem society faces appears to be 'Let's make a law for symptom' without ever attempting to determine the underlying illness.

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                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You're preaching to the choir.  I have for years, ever since I spent a good bit of time investigating the matter, held that "gun" violence is no more than a reflection of violence in general, and that removing guns from the environment will not address the violence.  Experience world wide proves that to be correct; take the preferred weapon and killers will use a different one.  Indeed, those areas being designated as "gun free zones" (meaning those that do not wish to kill will not have guns) only makes it worse.
                  
                  So yes, applying a bandaid to the symptom does not heal the injury, but liberals seem unable to comprehend that.

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               DoubleScorpionposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Norfolk doesn't want this...I live in Norfolk...And we are just as pissed as the rest of the state.
               This is a north east Virginia thing...as in the DC and surrounding area...
               A good majority of the Democrats in the State senate are from those areas and a few of the larger city areas...but with over 95% of the counties (and city counties) voting in 2A sanctuary...this is something Virginia as a whole wanted...just certain populated areas...
               One good thing...I doubt that 20+ democrats go unopposed in the next state election.

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                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, you may very well be correct; it has been a couple of decades since I lived in Virginia.  I merely picked out the metropolitan centers without actually looking at the politics of the area.  Perhaps the large naval representation in Norfolk (it IS still there?) makes a difference there.

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   PhoenixVposted 4 years ago

   I think the govt seems to be more focused on disarming the citizens than addressing underlying violence. The kids see violent movies and play violent realistic games. I dont see the govt encouraging a good family life to raise less violent children.
   
   As long as people like obama can get elected and play judge, jury and executioner and use my tax money to drone strike American Citizens and American children without due process, I am going to hang on to the 2nd.

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I have seen very little in the way of addressing the problem of violence.  Instead there is tremendous effort put into the idea that if only we can get guns from non-criminals there will BE no violence.

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