Traumatic Brain Injury=to a headaches and a couple of things?

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  1. Credence2 profile image80
    Credence2posted 3 weeks ago

    So, VFW wants an apology, and Trump being the shallow egomaniac that he is will likely not provide it.

    As a veteran, I take great offense at the Presiden't flippant comments regarding the injuries suffered by our troops from an Iranian attack earlier this month. This attack was part of the reprisal anticipated from Iran in response to the slaying of  Soleimani.

    It reminds me of the hypocrisy of this country and its military establishment. Trump was more concerned about the political blowback, About the admonitions regarding the ferocity of reprisals, post Soleimani, over any concern about the men injured.

    TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) is more than a couple of headaches. What would possess Trump to say such a stupid thing absent of the facts and reality of the situation?

    He is worse that a Chatty Cathy doll, you never know what is going to be said once the string is pulled.

    Yes, the military today is more engaged in protecting the wealth and power of a few over preserving life and liberty of Americans, which I once believed was the purpose of a need for military engagement.

    Obviously, I am wrong, these guys from Trump's perspective are mere cannon fodder, mere pawns on a geo-political chessboard. The point is that I have always knew that. Trump's handlers must be frustrated with the fact that he so carelessly and in so cavalier a fashion opens his mouth to remind us all how true that is.

    A little background...

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 … roops.html

    Your thoughts?

    1. crankalicious profile image92
      crankaliciousposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      He's as good a doctor as he is a person and a President.

    2. PrettyPanther profile image82
      PrettyPantherposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      "What would possess Trump to say such a stupid thing absent of the facts and reality of the situation?"

      His own self-interest. Every action and every word from his lying mouth are, in his mentally ill mind, for his own benefit.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        This what you get if you vote for an arrogant cretin to lead the free world. Insanity!

    3. Eastward profile image92
      Eastwardposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Thanks for sharing your personal experience and thoughts, Cred. To hear a veteran say, "the military today is more engaged in protecting the wealth and power of a few over preserving life and liberty of Americans", is powerful. Trump doesn't seem to place much value on the lives of people outside his circle of elitist friends and associates. He has tried to attach himself to the military and veterans, which he seems to know very little about, while disrespecting them in words (his TBI comments) and in actions (the use of veteran charity funds for campaign purposes). I really am surprised by any veteran that would support him.

      On another note, it seems Bernie has the greatest amount of financial support from military/national security employees (or at least did at the time of this article):

      https://citizentruth.org/sanders-top-re … -military/

      1. GA Anderson profile image92
        GA Andersonposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        Just a thought. Not an opinion or a criticism, or a rebuttal, but that surprises me. I would not have thought Sanders had such military-related support.

        GA

        1. Eastward profile image92
          Eastwardposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          Just an observation on my part as well, GA, but I see a lot of veterans very adamantly supporting Tulsi Gabbard on social media (given, she is a veteran herself). It seems that anti-war sentiment is gaining ground. I also see a lot of calls for a Sanders/Gabbard ticket (which I'd personally go for).

          1. GA Anderson profile image92
            GA Andersonposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

            I am only slightly familiar with Gabbard, and seem to feel she is acceptable to me. But Sanders is not. I could not vote for any ticket that included him and am surprised our military personnel could.

            In my view the guy will destroy the fiber of our national identity. I see his philosophy as, "Forget personal responsibility, it's all about governmental control to ensure your happiness.

            Okay, I know that was broad and harsh, but that is my view of what a Sanders' perspective amounts to.

            GA

            1. Eastward profile image92
              Eastwardposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

              If you are interested in hearing more from Gabbard, I'd recommend any of her appearances on JRE https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ … si+gabbard

              I enjoy that, for the most part, Joe Rogan is a good listener that gives guests a lot of unedited talking time to express their true selves, thoughts and opinions.

              It doesn't look like we see eye to eye on Sanders, but hey, that's America and we're supposed to be free to disagree.

              I view Sanders as our only likely chance at saving the fiber of American society before it becomes totally consumed by for-profit interests. When I look at curbing the seeming insatiable military industrial complex, prison industrial complex, skyrocketing education costs, pollution, etc, he seems to be far ahead of his pack of peers. These things will be expensive, but I think we can mostly shift our priorities towards more responsibility as a nation (and in turn cut costs on corporate welfare and other irresponsible exploits).

              1. Credence2 profile image80
                Credence2posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                Eastward, on your last paragraph, yes, pursuing the goals are expensive. But, it is not a matter of having the money, but where it is our priorities lie, and that sea change in attitude and approach is what I am seeking through the candidacy of either Warren or Sanders.

                1. Eastward profile image92
                  Eastwardposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Agree with you 100% once again, Cred. There always seems to be enough money for harebrained schemes that enrich the elites, often at the expense of our citizens, especially those who serve in the military.

                  There are plenty of very intelligent Americans whose knowledge we can tap to find better solutions if we are so willing (not to mention American workers' exemplary work ethic and efficiency). There are a wide array of examples of healthcare systems and criminal justice systems we can look to for guidance. We don't have to copy them. We can customize and hopefully improve upon them. Why not aim to be #1 at something other than dropping bombs? When did we become comfortable with the bar being set so low? There's so much we can accomplish if we get our priorities straight. I'll be looking forward to our chance to vote for progress.

              2. hard sun profile image90
                hard sunposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                "I view Sanders as our only likely chance at saving the fiber of American society before it becomes totally consumed by for-profit interests."

                Good point. I think some people forget just how much things like trust busting, and just generally leveling the playing field, are a part of American history. In fact, some argue that without these measures, the entrepreneurial spirit of America would have been destroyed long ago.

                1. Eastward profile image92
                  Eastwardposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Good point about American history as well. I can't imagine what the United States would be like if the robber barons were left unchecked (assuming the United States still would have persisted in some form).

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                    LOL  If you don't think current corporations, and their pet politicians, classify as "robber barons", or if you think they operate under heave checks, you need to look again.  One cannot believe that our politicians become multi-millionaires on what we pay them...not without considerable shenanigans gong on.  "Robber Barons" indeed.

          2. GA Anderson profile image92
            GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            I am all-for that anti-war sentiment. But still not for Sanders. ;-)

            I probably should know more about Gabbard than I do.

            GA

            1. Eastward profile image92
              Eastwardposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              I appreciate the anti-war sentiment, GA. I hope Gabbard can do more to garner your support than Sanders.

              Since you seem to be convinced that you wouldn't vote for Sanders, could I ask what your concerns are with him as a candidate? No judgment, I am genuinely as curious as when I ask people what it is that makes them support Trump (who I can say I would not vote for, barring any miraculous change).

              1. GA Anderson profile image92
                GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                Sanders, in my view, is espousing unrealistic and unachievable, and, (again by my view regarding personal responsibility), un-American ideals.

                To pick a brief but illustrative example, look at his proposals for student debt. I agree student debt is a problem. I also agree our higher education system's costs, (to the purchasers), are skewed, and I agree that investing in our future earners is a wise investment. but . . . if you enter into a contract, it is your personal responsibility to live up to your agreement. To forgive all student debt is merely transferring that cost to all taxpayers instead of just the contract participants.

                And then there is the obvious, Sanders' program proposals are absolutely unfundable without major tax increases on all taxpayers, not just the 1%rs that he is, (well, Warren mostly, at least Sanders is more honest about this), saying will cover the costs.

                Consider this eastward, if living in Thailand become more costly than the benefit you perceived as a reason to live there, would you relocate? I think you would. I know I would if I thought the costs exceeded the benefit. And that is what will happen to the wealth-base that Sanders and Warren want to tax to pay for their programs.

                We can already see states' empirical proof of this. Just look at the statistical charts for the wealth exodus from states like New York, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and California.

                For me, Sanders is the perfect example of; 'if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't.'

                GA

                1. Eastward profile image92
                  Eastwardposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Thanks for taking the time to share your concerns about Sanders. Like I said, no judgment, but I'll share some of my own thoughts on your points.

                  In my view, Sanders is proposing the only sufficient solutions to solve some very un-American phenomenon that have taken hold. We've mentioned his anti-war stance (Biden's nowhere in that ballpark and his record is solid evidence--and he's the other guy at the top of the polls). There's also the fact that we imprison a higher percentage of our population than any other developed nation, by some estimates more than any civilization in history. If I'm speaking frankly, it seems that manufacturing criminals to justify a bloated and militarized police force has become the norm. Bernie is also calling for structural reform of the criminal justice system.

                  Like you, I agree that student debt is a problem. As someone that's been involved in education for the past few decades, I'd advise any American student to seriously consider studying elsewhere unless they have a scholarship to a top US institution. They can study somewhere like Germany for free if they learn the language, or pay 500 Euros a semester to join an international program.

                  That point that there is a binding contract is valid. Although, I'll say my high school did nothing to prepare us for that next step. That is an educational system failure of gargantuan proportions. In my view, it's completely unacceptable. I'd also note that, as a society, we don't consider the same people we allow to sign up for a lifetime of debt in the form of student loans to have a beer, cigarette, or visit a casino (these may vary by state).

                  Also as you mentioned, I think Sanders has been more straightforward than Warren that there will be an increase of taxes for some, depending on your income level. I'm not a big fan of taxes, but I'll happily pay the increase if we have a President I truly believe is doing all he can to cast some light on the darkest areas of our nation.

                  You would likely be correct that I'd relocate from Thailand if the costs of being here outweighed the perceived benefit. Thailand is great, but my roots here aren't that deep. On the other hand, if the US could offer enough benefit to bring people living abroad and paying their taxes to other nations and spending their money in their economies home, that would be quite an accomplishment as well.

                  Also, there is current movement to take advantage of tax loopholes in various states. That can't be denied. There's a reason everybody and their brother or sister registers their company in Delaware. While this may continue somewhat, I don't foresee a mass exodus from the US due to a tax increase that results in universal healthcare or education. Living overseas is complicated and not for everyone. Becoming a citizen of another nation is vastly more difficult and often prohibitively expensive. Most of the nations that do have universal healthcare and education seem to be doing quite well.

                  At any rate, these are complex issues and I don't think anyone can claim to have a fail-proof solution. I enjoy trying to see them different sides and trying to understand why people support the candidates they do (or do not).

      2. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        My view of the current military establishment is the part and parcel that perpetuates the view of the system as "rigged". The same observation can be made of our economic  and political system in general. When the members of the military get away from macho and look who is going to use the power they represent responsibly and actually takes the interests of the individual members hand and hand with their responsibility to our citizens,  then we have to move away from Trump and his philosophy.

        I would welcome Sanders or Warren as an improvement rather than an accommodation of weakness for our military forces. Because when all the flag waving, bravado and parades are said and done, the men in uniform and all of us in general are really no better off under the "tough guy" Trump and his philosophy.

        1. Eastward profile image92
          Eastwardposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          Well said. I couldn't agree more. There are less Trumpian ways to be tough that allow us to honor our military members retain the respect of our allies.

    4. GA Anderson profile image92
      GA Andersonposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Damn Cred. I really tried to find something here to disagree with, or at least nitpick. I failed.

      I like this as much as I liked his attacks on McCain or the Gold-Star family.

      GA

      1. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        Well, GA, I am surprised that you could not find an angle to mitigate Trump's behavior in this affair.......

        1. GA Anderson profile image92
          GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Is it time for balloons and confetti?

          GA

  2. Readmikenow profile image95
    Readmikenowposted 3 weeks ago

    Cred,

    As someone who had a concussion among many other things during my time in the military, I can tell you I was initially quite upset.  Then I realized, those are words and his actions toward the military is what matters.

    Service at the VA has improved quite a bit since President Donald Trump took office.  Treatments that you had to wait for months to get under obama are now done the same day they're needed.  On a personal note, it's made my life quite a bit easier.

    He recently gave members of the military a significant raise in their pay.  This means quite a bit to many people.

    He always takes time to recognize military member and has changed things for the better.  NOW, troops can fire back when fired upon and can do whatever is necessary to defend themselves.  Under obama, there were so many rules for engagement.  Many good soldiers died or got wounded trying to follow those rules.

    I could go on.  But, I'm sure you get my point.  I can forgive his words because his actions are very good for current and former members of the military. I can't stress how much better he is to the military when compared to obama.

    Do you remember when the VFW wanted obama to apologize because he was the first president to suggest veterans be responsible for their own health care? Taking care of veterans is something the federal government has promised to do since the Revolutionary War.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/17/obama.veterans/

 
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