What's Really Important to President Trump?

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   crankaliciousposted 5 years ago

   We're in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and the President tweets this:
   
   
   Donald J. Trump
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   @realDonaldTrump
   Because the “Ratings” of my News Conferences etc. are so high, “Bachelor finale, Monday Night Football type numbers” according to the @nytimes, the Lamestream Media is going CRAZY. “Trump is reaching too many people, we must stop him.” said one lunatic. See you at 5:00 P.M.!
   
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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Is there any doubt he suffers from a narcissistic personality? Everything is all about him. He wouldn't have it any other way.

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      PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Our president is mentally ill with a textbook case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: This is just one more piece of readily available evidence that will one day be thoroughly compiled and categorized for students of mental illness to study.

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         crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I'm starting to wonder if this sort of thing is his effort to create chaos. Perhaps he realizes that when he does things like this, so many on the Left go nuts that he garners precisely the kind of attention he wants. I'm not sure what his rationale is exactly, but he reminds me of my 11-year-old, who doesn't much care whether the attention he gets is negative or positive. He just wants the attention. And in the politics business, particularly given how it riles his base in defense, any attention is good for him.

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            PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Could be, but I'm not sure he's that strategic in his thinking. But yeah, we go nuts and his supporters love him even more.  Sad.

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Applause (really!).  You are beginning to discern the difference between what Trump is and the public, political persona he projects.  Projects for specific purposes, I might add.
            
            To date PrettyPanther has not been able to crack that barrier, preferring instead to simply ride the "BASH TRUMP" bandwagon for all it's worth, without regard to truth, as it's the easy way out.  So we see silly claims of mental illness, brought by quacks ignoring their oaths and making a diagnosis without ever having an examination.  And by people completely untrained in the field, for much the same reason.  It's an easy excuse to play the Bash game, and requires no support whatsoever.

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               crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Sure. I mean if the difference is that his supporters give him credit for that explanation and his detractors don't see it, that makes some sense. I just can't wrap my brain around somebody with so little intellectual curiosity concocting that kind of scheme. If so, it's as much a rebuke of his supporters as his detractors. He's just playing some incredible game we're not understanding?
               
               I think there's some truth to his perception of how to manipulate the media. I just don't think there's anything very deep about it.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Not positive I'm following you, but yes, there is a scheme.  And most people are not understanding it even though the results are slapping them in the face.  He is the President of the United States; he won the highest office in the world.  And he didn't do it by playing the PC games we've come to expect; he did it by inventing his own rules and his own game and winning at that.
                  
                  He is a master at manipulating the media.  Like it or not, even whether you agree or not, Donald Trump is a master at nearly everything he seriously attempts, most definitely including manipulating both the media and the masses.  Deep or not, it has worked, and worked very well.  Every day for the past 4 years Donald Trump has been in the news.  His name is repeated hundreds of thousands of times every day.  Everyone in the country, and most of the developed world, talks about him every day.  And if you don't think that is one of Trump's goals you are mistaken.

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                     crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I mean, that's definitely a valid way to look at it. There's no question he's manipulating the media and not the other way around.
                     
                     It's just that inside information from people who have worked with him doesn't seem to support him being very competent.
                     
                     Being successful as a capitalist isn't necessarily being successful as a person. Hillary Clinton was accused of all these horrible things, like murdering people, without evidence, and now we make some pretty good assumptions using a lot of circumstantial and direct evidence about Trump, but it's not good enough?
                     
                     I think there's definitely something to what you're saying. Trump equates success with numbers. He just lies about the math all the time and it's why few people trust him and many people despise him.
                     
                     That said, he is a President for our times, no doubt. Really, Dan, some of your direct criticisms of liberal-think explain perfectly why Trump is President.
                     
                     And finally, how is any of what you're saying not just pure speculation?

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               Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Are you qualified to call him sane, Dan?

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                  Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  The point is that Dan is intelligent enough to know you need competent professionals, not biased sources with an obvious agenda.
                  
                  Biased sources feeding your bias may make you happy but it doesn't make for truth.

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                     crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Which, I would think would make you despise Trump, since he displays nothing but contempt and ignorance toward competent professionals.

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                        Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        You look at the man. I look at the policies.
                        
                        Which will reverse, for you, if Biden takes office and you reversed with Hillary. You don't have an credibility in this.

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                           crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Could you repost that last part in English?

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                     Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     You're speaking of Fox News?

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Foolish question...can you point to where I made the claim he is?  Deflect as you may, it remains that those claiming mental illness have exactly zero to base it on and nearly always are not qualified to make the diagnosis anyway.

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                     Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Foolish answer....you neither denied nor affirmed whether you thought if he is sane or not, yet you referred to others questioning his sanity as "quacks."
                     
                     Are you even qualified to call these people quacks?

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               PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Lol, whatever makes you feel better for defending such a disgusting "man."

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                  PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Wilderness has, more than once, declared a shooter to be "crazy." When I called him on it, he never responded. Twice. He's just defending his man in whatever manner he can.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Point to any defense, please?  I have addressed the foolishness of making calls without evidence, but did not defend anyone.  You, on the other hand, will nearly always take questioning your own faulty reasoning as a defense of what you incorrectly attack with that same faulty reasoning.  It isn't; it is questioning your inability to reason.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     So, when multiple medical professionals who have years of a wide variety video and other evidence to make a diagnosis, say that Trump is mentally ill, my reasoning is faulty for believing them while yours is not? And somehow your dismissal of these experts, not to mention your own eyes and ears, is not a defense of Donald Trump?
                     
                     Not buying' it.
                     
                     As for Trump being a master at media manipulation, I won't dispute that. Yes, he is good at keeping himself front and center, day in and day out, which fulfills his neurotic need for non-stop attention, due to his NPD. It is  not a sign of some great genius. It is not good for anything or anyone except to fill the giant, emoty, pathetic hole in Donald Trump's soul.
                     
                     It is not something to admire no matter how you try to say so.
                     
                     This morning, as I type this, he is accusing first responders of stealing masks. Why? Because there aren't enough and it makes him look bad so he tries to blame others. He is a sick, sick, disgusting man.

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                        wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Been over this before.  Over and over and over and over.
                        
                        Please point to the single physician that has performed a mental evaluation on Donald Trump.  Then point to his diagnosis and conclusions (Hint: it is the White House physician and he reports mental health, not illness).
                        
                        Now point to the quacks that unethically publicly report a diagnosis made without and examination, made by observing Trumps faux public "face" used in his political dealings.  (Hint: that's the rest of the quacks, including the idiots that make a diagnosis without any training at all).  This includes those silly enough to assign reasons for Trumps actions without ever even trying to understand what he's doing or why ("It is not good for anything or anyone except to fill the giant, emoty, pathetic hole in Donald Trump's soul."). 
                        
                        I know you won't "buy" that professional quacks making a diagnosis without an examination, and doing so against their professional ethical standards, should not be listened to, for that removes an excuse to bash Trump.  That is not an ideal result, for you, so you won't take it.  But at the same time your refusal to be honest or use logical, reasoning process to make conclusions does not help in getting people to believe your nonsense. 
                        
                        "This morning, as I type this, he is accusing first responders of stealing masks. Why? Because there aren't enough and it makes him look bad so he tries to blame others."
                        
                        Either you are incapable of conceiving of first responders that would steal a life saving product, or you just don't want to consider it so as to be able to bash Trump.  Which is it?  You don't have the ability to conceive of such a thing or just don't want to admit it might be true in order to bash away?

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                           PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           My Gawd.
                           
                           That's all I got.

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                              wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              That I can believe.  No rational thought, no facts, just "My Gawd!" whenever someone isn't on the bandwagon with you.

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                                 PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 Yeah, I get it. Licensed professionals are "quacks" for using years of evidence to diagnose Trump but you can pronounce a right-wing mass shooter as mentally ill because of one incident.
                                 
                                 That is how you use "reason." I think "MyGawd" is about the only response to give since, like you say, we've been on this merry-go-round before.

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            MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Your 11-year-old likes any kind of attention, huh. Back in my days in school, days of no political correctness, our health books described three kinds of mental retardation, moron, imbecile and idiot. I forget the other two, but I remember that the mildest form was that of "moron" defined as a person with the mental age of a 12-year-old. With no disrespect to your son because he is in that chronological age range, calling Trump a moron is closely accurate.

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