Letter to Donald Trump A Must Read for Every American

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   TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years ago

   Copy from Facebook page of Kevin M Carney(opposing Views.) A gentleman named Bill Howell eloquently wrote the below letter.
   Dear Mr. Trump,
   It’s taken me a while to realize this and to admit it, but I’m grateful to you.
   For the past few months I’ve spent a good deal of time lamenting your campaign and the poison it has so effortlessly generated. I’ve watched our country imploding, our public discourse become polluted, our political climate grows ever more corrosive, and wrongly assumed you were to blame.
   It’s only lately I’ve come to understand that you haven’t manufactured our current national ugliness—you’ve simply revealed it.
   By saying the irresponsible, mean-spirited, ignorant things you say so freely and so frequently, you’ve given other like-minded people license to do the same. You’ve opened up the floodgates for our corporate sewage to flow fully. People no longer conceal their vile mess, they now revel in it, they broadcast it and retweet it.
   You’ve made bigotry and racism socially acceptable again and that has been a kind of twisted gift because it’s allowed me to really see people; not as they pretend to be on the surface—but in the very depths of their wounded, weaponized hearts.
   Over and over as your campaign has persisted, your supporters would tell me that they like you because you “speak your mind”. It wasn’t until recently that I’ve realized that you speak their minds. You’ve given credence to their prejudices and made those prejudices go mainstream.
   Thanks to the terrible ground you’ve broken, politicians, pastors, friends, and strangers, both in person and on social media now regularly out themselves as hateful, intolerant, and malicious—and they remind me just how close they are to me, just how deep the sickness in us runs, and just how far we have to go together.
   You’ve emboldened people to be open about things they used to conceal for the sake of decorum, and though it turns my stomach, I know that this is the only way we can move forward; to have that cancerous stuff exposed fully so that it can be dealt with. Our progress as a nation is predicated on authentic dialogue, no matter how brutal and disheartening that dialogue is.
   In other words, you’ve let us know what we’re really dealing with here and while it’s been rightly disturbing, it’s also been revelatory. That’s the thing about that kind of harsh light: you’re forced to see everything. Beauty and monstrosity equally illuminated.
   Now don’t get me wrong, I think you’re the least qualified, least knowledgeable Presidential candidate we may ever have had participate this far into the process, and if you somehow were elected I’d fear gravely for the world my children would inherit—should it survive your Presidency at all. I believe you’re reckless, bitter, and completely reprehensible; the very worst kind of bully.
   But whether you win or lose, you’ve already allowed me the blessing of Truth; about me, about you, about other candidates, about our nation.
   And in the process you’ve also shown me that I am not alone in resisting you and this ugly thing you’ve revealed about us.
   You’ve generated an equally loud, equally passionate response to it and this is where I find my hope these days.
   I find it in those for whom equality isn’t just a cheap buzzword, it’s the most precious of hills to die on.
   I find it in those people who refuse to be silent in the face of our impending shared regression.
   I find it in those willing to be bolder in defending the inherent value of all people.
   I find it in the growing army of those who will not tolerate hatred as a core American value.
   I find it in those who reject violence as our default response to dissension.
   I find it in the ever rising voice of people who will not let malice and bitterness represent them in the world.
   Today I find my hope in those who, like me, will not be complicit in allowing bigotry and intolerance to become a source of national pride, because we’ve seen where that leads.
   Yes, Mr Trump, you’ve unearthed our hidden sickness and you’ve allowed it to go viral.
   You brought every awful thing about us out into the open.
   You will NEVER Get My Vote!

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      tamarawilhiteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The Democratic party - proven by Wikileaks and Project Veritas - sent in operatives to create violence at Trump rallies to then be blamed on Trump supporters. Combine that with liberals actively attacking conservatives for being conservative and those in power condoning it and refusing to stop it (San Jose rally, Chicago rally shut down by violent liberal mobs, Ben Shapiro audience attacked trying to reach events, the whole Hilllbullies twitter feed, the black homeless woman beat by liberals for defending Trump's star) - and it is provably the authoritarian left that is the fascist group we need to be afraid of.
      They call for violence against their opponents, have already had many organized MOBS attack people for merely holding opposing views or for being white, and from San Jose's police chief to the current head of the DoJ to Clinton's own pronouncements, the liberals SUPPORT THE VIOLENCE.

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Is this why the Dems raised money on a GoFundMe site so that they could rebuild the Rep offices that were damaged?  And have you not seen Trump inciting violence during his rallies?  The truth is that there is blame on both sides and nothing anybody can say or write in forums like this is going to change anybody's mind.  I just felt that the way this article was written made a lot of sense.  I haven't seen anybody on the Dem side asking that Trump be executed or jailed, have you?

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            Sharlee01posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Hillary's email's have shown ton's in regard to her flawed personality. However, the simple fact is she broke he law by having the private server... I care less about her intent.  Do you think if you or I broke the law, they would consider intent? She broke the law, and should not be put above the law. someone we could look up to... She lies she cheats, she breaks our laws. It's very simple, it's common sense. The email's have proved each word I have stated, her server proves she broke the law. Wake up face facts. If Trump broke the law he also should be prosecuted. Again very simple anyone who breaks the law should be dealt with by courts.   I might ad  it has come out that much of the violence   was perpetrated by DMC thugs,bought and paid for....

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               Alternative Primeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Sharlee01 ~ In REALITY, Hillary has NEVER Broken any LAWS ~
               
               In STARK Contrast, Trump has a LONG Documented HISTORY of "GENUINE REAL & Tangible" Law Violations including the Operation of a "UNIVERSITY" without proper LICENSE ~ BTW, he's on TRIAL November 28, 2016 for this very LITIGATION where 5,000 AMERICANs are SUING him 4 MULTI-Millions ~ According to REPORTs, FRAUD Including "Elder ABUSE & Racketeering" are 2 Charges within the SUIT ~ ~ Check the COURT Docs ~
               
               U might wanna' READ this as well ~ Trump INVOLVED in a RECORD Number of LAW Suits 4 CONTRACT & Labor LAW Violations ~ Apparently, According to the Public Documentation, he just doesn't like the thought of PAYING hard Working Americans what he OWEs for Services Rendered ~ The preceeding are just 2 EXAMPLEs of his Dubious HISTORY ~ ~ Do we even need to get into his BANKRUPTCIEs or Losing almost a BILLION Dollars? Or any other of his PAST Dealings ?? ~
               
               FULL Story ~ "SCROLL Down & Read" ~ SHOCKING ~
               
               http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/ … ontractors
               
               EVEN his Wife Melani, at least we ASSUME she's his WIFE, appears to have a PROBLEM with LAWs of the United States ~ Plagiarism aside, According to REPORTs, she BROKE "IMMIGRATION Law" for a period of time by Working here in the USA Illegally without a PERMIT ~ She would have been SUBJECT to "Delusional Donald's" Violently ABUSIVE "Shackle & DEPORTATION Squad" ~ Kinda IRONIC dontcha' THINK ??
               
               https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.html

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  "In REALITY, Hillary has NEVER Broken any LAWS"
                  
                  LOL  All she did was steal from the whitehouse and own a private server with confidential emails on it.  No doubt those evil Republicans forced her to do both at gunpoint.  Or may be fairies sent those emails!

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         jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 … b-share-di
         
         This is very scary stuff for the entire world.

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            Disappearingheadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Some strong parallels to the rise of Adolf Hitler here. If Clinton wins, the status quo of US malaise will be maintained. If Trump wins, there is a very real possibility the whole world will be in grave danger.

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               ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               If Trump wins  , those who are such unpatriotic pundits  for the advancement of socialism in America will be invited to leave .

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                  jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Are you still afraid of that "Red under the bed," after so many years since McCarthy?  Who would be patriotic in a country governed by greedy people without an ounce of social conscience?
                  
                  Be careful what you wish for.

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                     ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     The "red under the bed " is openly  a part of the rhetoric of liberal politics now days  in America ,  You and your country have succumbed to it already ,however un-admittedly ,  there are no secrets to that fact  .   The difference though is  when I use the term socialist , I should say entitlementism because its pure selfish-ism here that drives liberal politics , t's ALL about" What Can I Get for Free for Me "
                     
                     That , is  too long to type.

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                        Disappearingheadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Socialism isn't about entitlement. Even under communism there was never entitlement. What they are about is those who can contribute to society must and those who can't are helped and not abandoned.

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                           PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Does it come with an AK47 and a cool poster of some guy on all the buildings to encourage those that are unsure of the definition of "must" ?

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                              Disappearingheadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Needs a facepalm giff.

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                                 PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Facepalm history while I facepalm suggestions of the Grand Old Opry being the future Reichstag.

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                              Disappearingheadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Your issue with entitlement is the 'undeserved receipt of state benefits', am I correct? So your solution would be to withdraw state benefits and thereby force people into work, yes? Now work benefits society in numerous ways including the payment of taxes. So those who work contribute to society. What about those who cannot work, maybe because they have physical disabilities,  chronic illnesses, or they are full time carers for elderly relatives? Should they be denied state benefits? Any person with a sense or moral justice would say no.
                              
                              So you would agree those who can work must work, and perhaps you agree that those who can't should be helped. But when this is suggested to you as a definition of Socialism, you see red and guns and dictatorship. You are self contradictory.

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                                 PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Uh. I am disabled.Only about 20% T10-11 and L4-5.  I put in 56 1/2 hours last week, thankfully I get to sit alot. I did business with a guy that employs dozens of people although in a wheelchair, at work 50-60 hours a week.  I didnt mean to interrupt your elaborate strawman, sorry, go ahead.

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                                 ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 I don't know the stats but I'm betting under the Obama Administration , SSI disability alone has increased and eased its restrictions for acceptance  by 25 % or more , AND SSI disability was already  incredibly  exploited and abused !    I live in a very liberal state and region and  I swear every time  I turn around there is someone who is perfectly able to work abusing SSI disability .
                                 
                                 O- accountability in the SSI  disability program is running rampant !

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                           Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Here is the operative ...   well, inoperative word!!!!!
                           
                                                 M U S T
                           
                           
                           must
                           1 be obliged to; should (expressing necessity):
                           ought to, should, have (got) to, need to, be obliged to, be required to, be compelled to.
                           noun
                           not to be missed, very good; a necessity, essential, a requirement, a requisite.

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                        jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Of course, of course, only liberal, socially-minded people could be so lazy and greedy.
                        Conservative, holier-than-thou, wealthy business people could never stoop so low;  manipulating finances, property markets, polution-generating, poverty-inducing jetsetters could never influence your country or mine so negatively.  Oh no!  It's hard work doing business that's somewhat dodgy while trying to keep a respectable public persona.

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                           ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Well that's correct ,the new  liberal in America is lazy , looking for the entitlement  handout in the place of  and to replace the traditional  good work ethic !   
                           
                           Thank you for the help.

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                              TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              People who generalize are never correct in their assumptions, regardless of political leanings.  Who is the new liberal?  Are all of them the same person?  Do none of them have a work ethic?  Are all business people greedy lechers? What ever happened to seeing people as individuals, individual meaning a person who is made up of many complexities.  And, BTW....what ever happened to discussing the specific issues and agendas the candidates are running on and/or how they intend to accomplish their goals.  I'm seeing very little of this.   If we keep thinking this way, we'll never get anywhere!  How about a reality check.  Forget personalities.  Forget what you deem to be illegal behavior.  What do each of these individuals have to offer and which agenda will be best for America?

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                                 jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Thankyou for that correction.

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                     Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Fear of red under the bed? That appears to be the democrats' problem

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                     PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Ask the "Friends of Bill."

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               This is a major turning point for our nation. We should all look at the bigger picture (as per the article quoted) and do what we can to stabilize our nation.  Just yesterday there was an incident at a Trump rally that forced the secret service to remove him from the stage for fear of violence.  This is what happens when you incite violence, on either side.  Multiply this behavior by millions and you have civil war.  Is this what we want?

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                  Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  It is so comical how high brow liberals can go after Trump on issues that are argumentatively untrue or actually "trumped" up while all the time totally ignoring the mountains of career long evidence of debauchery, corruption, undermining of national security and coopting of the White House, the judiciary, the FBI, CIA, and DOJ to rig an election for nothing more than a criminal crime family. There is only one word that describes such people who don't understand that a vote for Trump isn't a vote for Trump but a vote against Hillary, the candidate who in leaked emails was called a retard and smelly by her campaign chairman and apalled by others. And that word is
                  
                  
                  
                  https://youtu.be/yi28q_830Vo?t=164

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                     peoplepower73posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     DTMB and others.  Here is your double standard and hypocrisy:
                     
                     1.     Bill Clinton cheats on his wife…Impeach him
                     2.    Trump proudly brags about sexual assault and has cheated on his wives…Elect him
                     3.    Hillary oversaw the Department of State while four people died in embassy attack…Put her in jail.
                     4.    Two Republicans were in office while over 200 people died in embassy attacks… No problem
                     5.    Immigrants don’t pay taxes…Round them up and kick them out.
                     6.    Trump doesn’t pay taxes... He’s a business genius
                     7.    Hillary’s foundation only spent 87% of their donations helping people…She’ a crook
                     8.    Trump’s foundation paid off his debts, bought sculptures of himself and made political donations to       avoid investigations while using less than 5% of funds for charity.  And he got shut down by NY State…So savvy…Put him in the White House.
                     9.    Trump made four billion dollars in 40 years, when an index fund started at the same time with the same “small loans” he received would be worth $12 billion today…without a trail of bankruptcies, thousands of law suits and burned small business owners…He’s a real business whiz.
                     10.    Hillary took a loss of $700K…She’s a criminal.
                     11.    Trump is the first candidate in the modern era not to release his tax returns, and took a billion dollar loss in one year…He’s a genius.
                     12.    Hillary takes responsibility for private email servers and apologizes…not credible
                     13.    Trump denies saying things off the record, he said on the record…He is just telling it like it is.
                     14.    Trump’s arguments are thin. His ignorance of reality is shocking.  The double standards are offensive, and the willingness to blindly support him and recycle his rhetoric is absurd. Opinions are not facts. Memes are not news articles, and hypocrisy is not a platform.

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                        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Peoplepower:  Thank you for this one.  It sums up the real truth of what is going on and hopefully will make people think twice about voting for Trump.

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                        Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        I like this, too, PeoplePower, most appropriate and spot-on!!!

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               RJ Schwartzposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               do you really believe a Trump victory would suddenly change the world?  The level of fear-mongering being circulated about Trump in office is staggering.  No other president has been able to do it, so why now?

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                  TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Because you have a charismatic personality that is giving hope to the disenfranchised, people who will do anything to have someone help them get their lives back, get jobs and who want to blame others for what has happened to them and allow their personal bigotries, so long hidden, have the chance to run rampant.  Not everybody who follows him fits this definition, but there are enough that do to make massive negative change a real possibility.  When in your life have you ever heard people ask that someone running for the office of president be jailed or be executed!

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                     Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     LOL times infinity. You claim Trump gives the disenfranchised hope that they will get jobs.  Hillary, on the other hand, gives hope to many who want to be on the government dole.
                     
                     
                     
                     I'm more inclined to help the first group.

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            jonnycomelately:  Thank you for posting the link to that article.  What an eye opener it is.  I have posted it on FB and hope everybody else does the same.  It scared the Bejeezus out of me!...and it should!

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            GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for the link. I think that short essay very accurately described our, (U.S.), situation. And I can understand why the whole world is watching. Unfortunately, from my perspective, there is no good outcome. Either the Trumpsters of the world will be emboldened, or the political powers will be.
            
            GA

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Well, not exactly.  Either outcome will not be good, but what people do not realize is that a vote for Trump will be a vote for chaos and instability, whereas a vote for Clinton will at least keep our democracy in place...not perfect, but in place.  I'll take stability any time over chaos, especially with the world in such a mess.  It's too bad that nobody is really talking about Trumps positions because if they did, they would soon realize that he does not have a clue.  Running the government is not the same thing as being the CEO of a corporation.  Yes, he has stated what he will do, but he has yet to say how he will do it.  You can't just tear families apart and deport millions of people or build a wall to keep illegals out that you think Mexico will agree to pay for.  We are not Germany.  The money and manpower for doing such things simply does not exist...unless he wants to borrow even more and run the national debt up even higher.
               
               I keep wondering why people are concentrating so much on personal morality when what is at stake is so much bigger than that.
               
               We are stuck with two flawed candidates, but only one has experience, understands how Washington works and will be willing to listen to the advice of  other leaders.
               
               Very sad situation for all of us, but I expect to see plenty of violence either way.

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                  GA Andersonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Hello TIMETRAVELER2,
                  
                  You lead off with a disagreement, "Well, not exactly.  Either outcome will not be good...," but then seem to repeat my point.
                  
                  It may be true that Hillary has the understanding, experience, and willingness you spoke of, (although the last one seems debatable), but doesn't she also represent the further entrenchment of political power that many agree is a primary reason for Trump's staying power?
                  
                  You appear to be saying you are willing to go along with that instead of taking a chance with uncertainty. Aren't you really arguing the cure isn't worth the price? If the solution was painless and easy, we would not still have the problem.
                  
                  GA

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                     TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     There is no uncertainty with Donald Trump.  It is easy to see exactly how he will do things and that he really has no detailed plans...just a general agenda.
                     
                     It is not a matter of "going along with"...it is a matter of wanting to see this country stabilize in order to save it.  Many are assuming that Hillary is Obama...she's not.  I'm betting that she will do what she can to fix the health care system, stand up for women's rights, work towards job creation and similar issues.  Yes, she may not do what people would like to see done with the banks, but I have no doubts that she will also not let America founder.  Frankly, I don't think Trump knows enough to even care if it does, as long as he can be in control and make all of the decisions (which of course the Congress and Senate won't totally allow).
                     
                     Look, neither candidate is the best.  I think everybody can agree with that, but creating change for the sake of change is never a good idea.  Change for the betterment of the country is good, but to be good, it cannot be rash.
                     
                     Trump has so many people fearing Muslims...just like Hitler had them fearing the Jews.  Do you want to see an America that turns into a type of Nazi Germany?  That's not a change I want or support.  Do you?

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                        Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Nazi Germany? Really, you are playing the Nazi card? How does open borders and globalism sit with you, subjecting our country to the influence of countries who are actually funding ISIS which was created by Obama and Hillary. Do yourself a favor and listen to this whole video and then explain how Trump can be worse than Hillary Clinton.
                        
                        Exposing the I.S.I.S Lie: How President Obama & Hillary Clinton Created I.S.I.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU8-bgfR83Q
                        
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r3qvUfzOHA
                        
                        Here you go what Hillary and her people really think of minorities including muslims https://youtu.be/PbCX1vZVuMo?t=98

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                           PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           I think the Hillary camp has more in common with Hitler. He was doing occult stuff too. It was en vogue. Some of them going to Spirit Cooking rituals.

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                           TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           youtube?  Really?  This is where you're getting your info?  Not even worth discussing.

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                              Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Typical liberal excuse and dodge to ignore truth and keep your head buried in the sand. You tube is a tool, a  venue for information just like any other venue, media or blog. If you are the type of person who ignores facts or reasoned points of view solely because of the venue they are on you are lazy and totally biased by whatever it is you get your information which is obviously the case here because you're oblivious to any other point of view but your own. Making up a frivolous excuse not to entertain those links I gave you tells the whole story, you are brainwashed to your way of thinking which is a totally one sided hypocritical closed mind that you have. By any measure Hillary HAS BEEN AND WILL BE far worse for America than Trump could ever be.

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                                 jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 It is true that, with the increase of our ability to communicate so widely, with so many people around the world, the level of mistrust has increased proportionally.
                                 @DTMB, you don't come across as a person who has much respect for any other opinion but your own.  And you address a man who is your elder with such disrespect and such disdain, such political bias, that I also find it hardly worth discussing anything with you.
                                 Are you able to lift your game?

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                                    Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    You might rethink the elder comment. We don't really know who anyone is here. It's a level playing field. Disrespect is disrespect, or it isn't. It can't depend on something like age.

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                                       jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       Fair enough....so when can respect come back into the whole political/mass media/social media mix?
                                       It seems there is so much mud-slinging, with little honest comment coming from all sides, that we cannot trust any point of view to be "true."
                                       Even, as you point out, there are individuals in these forums who don't declare identity....maybe from fear.
                                       A few of us are up-front and willing to hear opposing views with respect.  This the way I feel we need to promote.

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                                          Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                          It should certainly be promoted but you, yourself, have posted things I consider rude and disrespectful. As have I. We all have, from what I've observed.
                                          
                                          Anyway, stating who and what you are in this environment doesn't equate to truth. No one can verify it. I don't bother attempting to know who is what. Our words are all we have to define us. I don't care how old or young someone is. Here. If a Hubber thinks they need to be respected for that this is the wrong place to attempt to gain it.

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                                       TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       I agree, but in this case it's pretty easy to tell that the person writing these types of comments is fairly young, and for your information, I am 73 years old, which johnnycomelately may be aware of.  There is no reason for anybody here to disrespect anybody else simply because they disagree with someone's views.

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                                          Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                          I agree that we should all offer respect when communicating here. But, I've noticed many who attempt to chastise don't always practice what they preach. Me being one of them too, occasionally. We all get a little heated in our exchanges from time to time.

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      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I found this online and it reminded me of my youth for some reason, a memory of when or where I used to drive my first, yet old, pickup truck down to this bluff. You could see almost forever there. It overlooked a river with a train track winding along its banks. The sky was a spectacular blue and there would be these amazing colorful sunsets with pink and orange clouds that stretched across the horizon, into infinity. There was golden brown and tan wheat and natural green grasses throughout the valley. Usually a family of wild turkeys would be strutting through those tall grasses, to accentuate the serenity. 
      
      I had this wonderful old hound with the saddest eyes you ever saw, who loved to give chase to rabbits in those grasses and bound after squirrels near the trees by the river, to no avail as he was not a young pup anymore. I was like 16 years old and I would be at the bluff and more than likely waiting for some baked apple pie to cool that Mama had made. We made our own homemade vanilla ice cream back in those days, to go atop the pie and it was quite a treat for poor people.
      
      Anyway, I liked the spot because I could see this regular train go by and I guess the train engineer had fashioned a flag on the front of the train and as he would go by he would always lay on his horn and Old Glory would be waving proudly in all its red white and blue splendor and it made for the most awe inspiring moments. For some reason this letter I found online made me think of those wonderful times and wish I could go back again, somehow, some way. I guess it reminded me of my mother who recently passed away, too and the memories came flooding back to me. I hope you can find it in your heart to read it:
      
      
      Dear Mrs. Clinton,
      
      Congratulations on securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States. It’s historical! It’s liberating to women! You’ve broken the glass ceiling!
      
      But at what cost?
      
      As the mother of a beautiful young daughter, my desire is to teach her every day that she is priceless, valuable and precious beyond anything else in this world. I tell her that God has placed her on this earth for a very specific reason. I make sure that she never doubts her place here.
      
      How exciting it would be for us to celebrate the accomplishments of the first woman ever to receive the presidential nomination of a major political party! Wouldn’t it be amazing if I were able to point my daughter to someone she could look up to and admire? Unfortunately for myself, my daughter and millions of other women in this nation, I can’t.
      
      Sadly, Mrs. Clinton, you have shown not only my daughter but all daughters—and not only in this country but globally—that in order to, in your words, “shatter the glass ceiling” you have to lie, cheat, abuse, insult, bully and ignore. You threaten others along with disrespecting yourself.
      
      Mrs. Clinton, how can I possibly tell my daughter to follow you as an example after you allowed your husband to assault and demean multiple women throughout his political career? Were those women not important? Tell me, will you fight for my rights like you fought for those womens’? Ummmm, I hope not. What about the sisterhood, Mrs. Clinton? Did you expose your husband for his abuse? No! Instead, you enabled him as the abuser and tried to silence his victims. How can you live with yourself? Female empowerment? Nice try!
      
      How can you get up and speak about income equality and then pay your own male executives considerably more than your female staff? How can you receive donations from countries that publicly abuse, shame and even execute their own women? Yet you continue to boast about how you stand for women’s rights. Double standard?
      
      You try your best to relate to those of us who work hard every day to achieve the American dream. You, however, know nothing of struggle. That $12,000 Armani jacket? Those $250,000 speaking fees? They speak volumes. Hypocrisy?
      
      How could I possibly ask my daughter to look up to and trust you? Do you honestly think that you are an example to American children? My daughter watches the news. She has heard about the Americans who were attacked and slaughtered in a foreign land while you stood by and did nothing. Then, with their blood on your hands, you did everything you could to cast the blame on others, eventually telling Congress, “What does it matter now?” Dishonesty?
      
      The fact of the matter is, Mrs. Clinton, that you are no champion of women. You are selling the women of this country a false bill of goods. Unfortunately, many are buying in. I don’t want you fighting for me or my daughter. You have the interests of only one woman in mind here: your own. You have done nothing to bring the United States together. Quite the contrary—you have done your best to divide, and you have succeeded. Congratulations. You crave power, and you will do whatever it takes to get it. You have lied, cheated and let down your own country.
      
      My prayer, Mrs. Clinton, is that I would be able to teach my daughter how to be a true woman. A strong woman. A self-respecting woman. A woman who sees herself through the eyes of her Creator. I pray that she would be a woman of compassion, kindness, service, selflessness. One who has integrity and looks out for the needs of others.
      
      In a way, I guess I should thank you, Mrs. Clinton. You have made it easy to teach my daughter who she does not want to aspire to be. Now may I have the courage to stand up and show her the woman she does want to be.
      
      Sincerely,
      
      Helen Wickert
      
      P.S. By the way, I will pray for the next U.S. president, whether it is Donald Trump or you. God tells us to do so, and He can turn any heart toward righteousness and truth.

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         This is truly a beautiful and well written letter, although not all of it is based in fact.  Nonetheless, both it and the original one I posted point out that no matter who we elect, we're going to be in trouble.  There are no saviors here.  Just about everything you said about Hillary is also true of Donald.  This is what we have created through our own apathy and stupidity by not learning the real facts about people and casting casual votes based on things like name recognition, spin and hype.
         
         When the vitriol started years ago when Obama came into office, I knew we were heading for trouble.  So many of us believed the poison that came into our emails almost daily that it became sickening.  We began arguing with one another.  Friendships died.  People took up opposite causes, each thinking he was in the right.
         
         The truth is that none of it is right.  Furthermore, none of us really know what is true and what is not.
         
         I have looked at Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck and clearly see that both sides have told many lies.  Nobody is innocent of this...yet we all "believe" one way or the other.
         
         Until we stop listening to "then" and start reading, researching and analyzing, we will continue to destroy ourselves and our country.  I am old, and I'm glad I am.  I don't want to be here when what was once so beautiful turns to ashes.

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            PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            
            I think when people realize that both letters and my personal foreword would be better put to use, to fertilize a garden, instead of using it as the rhetoric that it is, then we will be getting somewhere.

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      Sharlee01posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The letter is poignant, and yes Mr. Trump has said many, and done many things throughout his life. Most of his "said crimes" came from what he said, not what he did. Hillary has perpetrated bad judgement that lead nations into war, then turned her back on her mistakes. She thought herself above the law, on to many occasions to list. She has done nothing for America, and enriched herself from nations that support terror. These are facts. She is power hungry, and most likely wants to be president to stick a feather in her hat. Trump just may b devoted to change. I will put my vote toward change. I have common sense, and I have lived through all of the Clinton;s disgraces. I think anyone who votes blindly for such a flawed human being, is blind to facts, and truth. .

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         Alternative Primeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Here's a PRIMARY Difference between HILLARY & Donald ~
         
         Donald has VIOLATED the LAW Several Times & U can CHECK the FACTs if U wish as Illustrated in THOUSANDs of Complaints & Documents FILED in the COURT of Jurisdiction whereas Hillary to my knowledge, has very few if any unless of course U Include "FANTASY Pretend-LAND Crimes" which have obviously occured somewhere in an "ALTERNATE Universe", but certainly not here on PLANET Earth ~
         
         Trump also faces a MASSIVE "Elder ABUSE & Racketeering" TRIAL beginning November 28, 2016, Considered by many as "HIGH Crimes & Misdemeanors" & another TRIAL December 16, 2016 for Pedophilia ~ NOT Good News ~ ~ YES, Believe it or NOT, he has actually tried to take advantage of your ELDERLY PARENTs & Grand-Parents in the past, "SEARCH" his "Baja Mexico" RE Deal that went SOUTH ~ His Children Ivanka & Donald Jr. were apparently involved in that one According to Public Accounts ~
         
         Trump has also Signaled a possiblity of "PROLIFERATION of Nukes" throughout the WORLD including Saudi Arabia & Japan ~ He also said NUKING Europe was not "Off the TABLE", Climate Change is a HOAX Perpetrated by CHINA & He would "PRESSURE" Our NATO Allies which is Absolutely Unacceptable to me Considering ALL of my Ancestors Originate in SOUTHERN Europe, many of whom still RESIDE there ~
         
         Just a few of Donalds, DELUSIONALLY "Deranged & Dangerous" Thoughts & to my knowledge, Hillary has Remained LUCID, Strong & Stable in Comparison by Committing to be RESTRAINED with our Nuclear Arsenal, "Strenghtening & Supporting" OUR Critically Important NATO Allies, and YES REJECTING the INSANE Notion of "Proliferating Nukes" ~

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            Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Looney tune time, complaints are equal to violations of laws, volume of complaints related to business is compared to the Clinton Crime Family's record of corruption, lying to America, coopting the judiciary, the White House, the FBI, DOJ, CIA to rig an election? LOL
            
            There is absolutely no comparison of what we'll get with Trump to what we've got with Hillary, it's night and day, Hillary being the night. That's the facts.

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               TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               DontTazeMeBro  You have taken this posting from an intelligent discussion of opposing views to a disrespectful attack on those who oppose your thinking.  This is neither the correct thing to do or something that is supported by HP"s TOS. You are new here.  Read the rules.  If you wish to post , please do so respectfully as everybody else here has done.  If you are unable to do that, then please stay off the forums.  One thing we do not want is to have name calling and heated argument between the writers here who are honest enough to state their true feelings.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   As I read this , as in all my reading today ,  I instantly SEE the mirrored political reflection  and  My response ;
   Hilary doesn't make anyone sick to their stomach ?
   
   Personally , anyone that doesn't feel instant revulsion at  Hilaryspeak , definitely has a reality problem.

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   Missy Smithposted 7 years ago

   A BIG THANK YOU to Bill Howell for writing this and really laying it out in the truest way, Kevin M. Carney for posting it from him, and to you TIMETRAVELER2, for continuing the message and copying it here.
   
   
   It is very hard for myself along with plenty of others to recognize the hate that has ensued through the mouths of Donald Trump and his supporters. It brought us to a fight that has been exhausting to win, and we still may not, but it brings me to an elated ease today to find this and know that we can still be valid in our attempts to wake up the world.
   
   
   The latest hub I wrote, I wrote with exhaustion and much angst to this very conversation. I will admit my attempt was filled with in your face truth that some found no better than a rant from Donald himself. However, I had decided it had to be done. It was the only way that maybe the ones that didn't get it would. After all, disturbing and hateful words have been the sole way for these supporters to take notice to anything. I realized my casual conversation just wouldn't work.
   
   
   After I was done posting my last hub, I decided to settle my thoughts and be through with it as we have only days now to wait for inevitability either way. I relate to this letter and everything in it.

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   Live to Learnposted 7 years ago

   I've read both open letters to each presidential nominee. A lot of truth, in both.
   
   The saddest part of this election cycle is that these two, and only these two, were the best either party could offer.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Can't argue with that logic !

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      +1   I think that is something that every thinking person can agree on.

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   Missy Smithposted 7 years ago

   

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      too bad more people didn't do the same!

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         Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I did, but alas, my ideal candidate was not meant to be.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Exactly , Many assume its the right   that sold America down the tubes , But it is the left that has exploited  any advantages of our economic power ,  political   sovereignty  and social political strengths .All of it in "pay for play" profitability !
   
   I would rather live under the influence of complete Isolationist- Nationalism  than to watch the continued systematic  destruction that has been perpetrated by the New left in America , who has  sold out every feature of America's patriotic heritage , prosperity ,political power , economic strength , and educational advantage we have ever had . All for  a fantasy story book One World Order.

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   Chopmommyposted 7 years ago

   We. are at s crossroads where the world looks at us as ignorant fools for our treatment of our president and this election. We have no morals just a lot of hate and greed. Trump has lead us to a dark place and I don't know if we can ever recover.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This is what is scaring me.  There is so much more to this election than what people are seeing.  I hope we can find a way out of this mess, but if we can't, we are doomed.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years ago

   What would you rather be: An animal in the zoo
   or Free as a Duck?

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You can find a cwack in any argument

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Yep. Not a quack a cwack!

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      And if Walt Disney referred to him as Donald who are we to argue?
      If Mr. Trump's shinanagans were just a comedy show, then we should have no worries, but they're hardly humorous.  Very serious in my view.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         If there were a box for, "None of the Above," you know we would all be on the same page. Thats the sad part. Can't we have a do-over??? Just let Obama stay in office for another year and go back to square one.
         Maybe the box should say, "Do Over."
         Would we still want Trump over ... say, Cruz, Huckabee, Rubio etc.? or some one else?
         Hillary over Sanders? or someone else?
         Maybe these someone elses would step up to the plate???
         Naw …

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            That raises an interesting question for me, not being too familiar with the political system in the United States:
            What would happen if there was a "hung" result, with no outright winner?   Could the incumbent President be asked to continue in office while fresh elections were organised and held?
            Each President retains the honarary title of Mr. (Ms.) President for life.  Could any one of those persons be asked to step in and "hold the fort," so-to-speak?

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