Get Your Troops Out! Homeland Troops Drawback In Portland

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  1. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 3 years ago
    July 18, 2020  --- The mayor of Portland demanded Friday that President Donald Trump remove militarized federal agents he deployed to protect the Federal Court building. Portlands Mayor Ted Wheeler stated  “Keep your troops in your own buildings, or have them leave our city,”

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    "If the Federal Government and its brilliant Law Enforcement (Homeland) didn’t go into Portland one week ago, there would be no Portland -- It would be burned and beaten to the ground. If the Mayor and Governor do not stop the Crime and Violence from the Anarchists and Agitators immediately, the Federal Government will go in and do the job that local law enforcement was supposed to do!"

    Democratic Gov. Kate Brown said Trump is looking for a confrontation in the hopes of winning political points elsewhere. It also serves as a distraction from the coronavirus pandemic, which is causing spiking numbers of infections in Oregon and the nation. It is a factor over 55 days she has allowed protesters not only to gather by the thousands in the streets of Portland, but many homeless have moved into various parks in large numbers... The Homeland security officers stay mainly behind a dense or inside the courthouse, they are defending. In my view, this is a very hypocritical attitude on the Mayor's part.

    Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum claimed she would be filing a lawsuit in federal court against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Marshals Service, Customs and Border Protection and Federal Protection Service. Alleging they have violated the civil rights of Oregonians by detaining them without probable cause. She will also seek a temporary restraining order against them.

    Today, July 29, the Trump administration announced that homeland security troops will be drawn down and hand over the protection of the Federal courthouse to the Portland police as well as Oregon State police. The Portland police have previously ordered to stand down and are not allowed to engage with protestors, and have very limited use of tear gas or pepper spray. It will be interesting to watch how this all plays out with Homeland troops being drawn down, and eventually leaving the courthouse. Will the courthouse eventually burn to the ground or will it remain open and providing Federal services?

    Thought's --  Will the violence now stop at the courthouse or will it increase due to Portlands portland's police monitoring the courthouse with limited help from Homeland security?

  2. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 3 years ago

    Police early Thursday cleared and closed the parks to the public.  The two parks were being used as a staging area for the nightly attacks on the federal courthouse in Portland.   It appears local officials began to make good on their promise to step up security so federal forces could drawback.

    The move came after another night of clashes that saw demonstrators throw objects and breach the fence surrounding the Hatfield Courthouse, and federal police push back with tear gas.

    Last night the protesters mainly chanted “Feds go home,”  well aware that under a recent deal between Gov. Kate Brown and the Trump administration, Homeland Security agents and officers will be drawn down and leaving Portland as soon as the police can give evidence of being able to protect the Federal courthouse that is a target of the protesters.

    Portland police and state police have taken back the Parkes where the protesters had set up gathering zones, where many homeless had also set up camps. Making this move in hopes that it will lead to calming protests, and end the nightly violence. Protesters will no longer be allowed in the parks

    It will be interesting to witness if the drawdown works to stop the nightly violence against Federal Buildings. Will the peaceful protesters now take back the streets and be heard once again or will the violence continue? The next few days will answer those questions.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    Peer pressure is very strong, is it not?
    I have a friend who lives near Portland. It appears, (from reading her Facebook posts) that everyone (?) is on board with fighting the federal police off. It is hip and cool to hold the opinion that Trump and his help is merely intrusive.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Peer pressure is strong,  add that to groupthink and shake it up and you have a far-left liberal. I had a feeling the citizens were supporting the violence due to their silence. It will be interesting to see what these protesters do in Portland. It well seems they got their way, the Homeland troops have pulled back, and tonight it will be just the police and state troopers guarding the courthouse.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
        Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        What's your prediction? I have none.
        Perhaps it will all work out fine.
        Will is strong and maybe they are (collectively) like two year olds who want to:
        "do it self!"
        Now, with two year olds if you allow them a certain amount of autonomous power they will calm down.
        (there's that word, autonomous).

        Are they reclaiming what was taken away (somehow) or abusing what was given too much of? (Mayor/parents)

        My 23 year old niece says its because they are reacting/acting out due to the covid situation.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Good anology. I think they have been abusing was given to much of. They were given unfettered autonomy. At hat point in my view, they felt very empowered to do just about anything they wanted to do. And then there was Trump, he sent in troops that totally threatened their newfound power, their unfettered autonomy was over... 

          Making a prediction is hard --- but I think the rioters will be back tonight and try their best to burn that courthouse. Will the Portland police are able to control the mess, I don't think so. In my view, the night protesters have a totally other agenda, and it's not about black's lives. 

          I hope I am wrong because it certainly will be an ugly situation. Trump announced today at his daily press conference that the Portland police have two days to stop these riots or he will be sending in National Guard. he added they will be sent to do a job, and more or less said they will do the job as trained.

          So hopefully the rioters heard his message and stay away from Federal buildings. Hey, the mayor could care less about the cities buildings and businesses. Let them have a go at them.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
            Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you.
            Here we are trying to make sense of it all,
            and there may be no sense to be made of it all.

            The situation is truly based on non-sense.
            Violence for the sake of violence because, after all, Mars is in Aries and will stay there until December.
            So, I agree, they will most likely have a go at the courthouse for the following couple of days, destroy as much as they possibly can, throw some bombs ...  and finally, the National Guard will most certainly arrive to save the day.
            But Mars will still be in Aries.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

              Here is what happened last night in Portland from the Portland Police Bureau.

              "Mass gathering along SW 3rd Avenue includes speeches and chants - 07/31/20
              During the evening hours of July 30, 2020, a group of a few hundred people gathered along SW 3rd Avenue and gave speeches for a few hours outside the Justice Center and Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Federal Courthouse.

              At times people lit small fires along sidewalks on surrounding blocks and attempted to light fires inside the fence at the federal courthouse. Others in the crowd put the fires out. Some people climbed on or near the fence at the federal courthouse, but others admonished them and they got down. People could be heard in the crowd repeating that the protest was to remain peaceful.

              By about 1:00 a.m. on July 31, 2020 most of the speeches had ended. The larger group broke in to smaller groups and over the next hour or two people dispersed without police interaction."


              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
                Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                ... well, Good!

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    On Facebook, my friend who lives just outside of Portland featured this comment:

    "The right to protest is protected by our constitution. It is an act of patriotism when protesting the the sitting and overly racist administration. Finally, the  problem here is the federal government attacking Americans. I have a huge F-ing problem with that."

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    She admits that they are protesting the "sitting administration!"

    Why am I surprised and somewhat horrified?
    What has the sitting administration done to them?
    However, my 23 year old niece calmly told me that Trump is not professional. His tweets are even banned on twitter. He is not presidential.

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    I congratulated my friends in Portland for protecting the federal building last night.

  7. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    How is the sitting administration overly racist and fascist??

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      In my opinion, I don't feel the current administration is racist. However, everyone has a right to their own opinion. And I hope the people of Portland continue to make every attempt to stop anyone that shows up with bad intent.

  8. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 3 years ago

    "Mass gathering on SW 3rd Avenue disperses after several hours - 08/01/20
    During the evening of July 31, 2020 hundreds of people came together in a mass gathering along Southwest 3rd Avenue between Southwest Madison Street and Southwest Salmon Street. People gave speeches outside the Justice Center starting at about 9:00 p.m. Vehicular traffic was blocked by people standing in the traffic lane Southwest 3rd Avenue. At about 10:30 p.m. the speeches ended and the majority of the people congregated outside the Mark O. Hatfield U. S. Federal Courthouse.

    Through the rest of the night and into the next morning the crowd was subdued. Some lit fires climbed the fence outside the federal courthouse, threw objects, and chanted. For the most part, they stood crowded together on Southwest 3rd Avenue, between Southwest Madison and Southwest Salmon, talking in small groups.

    On August 1, 2020, at about 1:30 a.m. people started a bonfire in the middle of Southwest 3rd Avenue in front of the federal courthouse. People brought plywood and other flammable material to keep it going. Over the next hour, the number of people dwindled to a few dozen.

    There was no police interaction with the crowd."


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