Biden Picks Harris For VP

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  1. GA Anderson profile image90
    GA Andersonposted 10 months ago

    I think Kamala Harris was his best choice. I think she will probably put him over the top with a lot of swing voters.

    GA

    1. Credence2 profile image82
      Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Well, he finally made a choice, it would not have been my choice But, I have to make the best of it and get on the juggernaut to defeat Donald Trump, this fall.

      This may not endear him to those on his left and that could prove risky.

      1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
        Stevennix2001posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        You're right.  It is a risky move considering part of the reason Hillary Clinton lost the election in 2016 is because not everyone from the democratic party supported her.   I think Biden could have picked a better running mate, but we'll see how this works out for him.

        1. Credence2 profile image82
          Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

          You're right as well, how could we make this same mistake twice? Hillary thumbed her nose at the left flank of the party, represented by Bernie Sanders. The result was a candidate who couldn't tell you just whose side she was actually on. This in turn created enough apathy among our base that allowed an opening for a candidate like Trump, who everyone thought could not win.

          She still won with 3 million popular votes. Trump's die hard supporters cannot be moved but he barely won last time onlybwith the assist of the Electoral College and was given a chance by those otherwise turned off by Clinton.

          But now that Trump is a known quantity would those on the fence really want to chance it with him again? He certainly has not gathered any more admirers in the last 3 years, so the only direction that makes sense is his decline in support among much of the electorate. Add to that the dismal state of the economy and his mismanagement of the COVID pandemic, who remains enamored with him?

          Biden with his selection, created a potential obstacle for himself in this race that makes his victory a bit less certain. Trump only wins if Dem voters are apathetic. If I did not know better, it seems like all of this was somehow orchestrated by republicans to create as much disadvantage for Biden as possible so that they many keep their incompetent tyrant in the White House against overwhelming odds.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image90
            Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            The Trump support has been a hard 40%+ no matter what they have thrown at him, from the Russia conspiracy lies to the current Riots.

            And because of three years of MSM loathing and fabricating, because of months of rioting and looting, I would expect every bit of that 40% to get out there and vote for him.

            I also think this is completely irrelevant if we have a Mail-In Ballot election, it doesn't matter who wins then, half the country will not believe or accept the outcome.

            And any honest person would freely admit there is no way a Mail-In Ballot election could be completed fairly and accurately.  They tried it recently in a NY election and they discarded over 80 thousand votes (20%) as invalid.

            I also don't think this ticket has a chance now.  For a simple reason.

            Most of those "on the fence" realize that Biden is as soft as a rotten grapefruit.

            So... it is not Biden they would be electing it is Harris.

            Harris isn't that appealing... certainly not to any informed voter that leans Left or Libertarian.  She is a ruthless former DA that clearly cares more about her own record and her own power and prosperity than anything else.

            She wasn't well liked when she was running for the Nomination, she will be no more liked now.

            1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
              Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Interesting enough, I've always read the Trump support number to remain around 35%. We cannot ignore the fact Harris has won elections, liked by some or not, and that is important. Hillary hadn't done such a thing. Finally, we should be worried when Russians and the Chinese prefer Trump. One Chinese spokesperson said they would rather Trump won because America would continue to tear itself apart while Biden would be formidable.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image90
                Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Yes, and I am sure that Chinese spokesperson was speaking the truth, because clearly Trump and China have been getting along so well.

                Where-as Biden has always been a formidable opponent to China, especially after a major Chinese (government controlled) bank gave his son's firm a 1.5 billion dollar investment.

                As for the Russian issue, anyone still bringing that garbage up is not worth debating the issue with, that is a dead horse that has been beaten with a stick for so long all that is left is dust.

                Of course those living in an alternate reality not based on sound facts, but rather false and fabricated information have yet to figure this out... which I realize is a good portion of Democratic voters.

                Harris has won what?  AG... sure she was good at it.

                Senator in California... she ran as a Democrat... she has plenty of State connections as a former AG... not impressed, it was practically a gift wrapped position.

                She was destroyed in the debates by Tulsi Gabbard.

                She never fared will in the primaries.

                She will not come across any better or with any more appeal now.

                Those determined to vote Trump out would vote for anyone regardless of who is no the ticket.

                For the rest of America, this ticket is not appealing at all... and when these two get out in public and start opening their mouths, it won't help them any.

                1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
                  Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  When is a win not a win? That's expected from those who want to diminish another person's accomplishments. Destroyed? Interestingly enough - her title is Senator. And Russia is still relevant, just as much as those who question former President Obama's birth still. Anti-virus companies have noted attacks coming from Russian sources, trying to hack our internet.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image90
      Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      The DNC and their compatriots trash the likes of Sanders, Yang, and Gabbard... and give Democrats these two Liberty loving Progressive politicians..

      The torch bearers of change... a 40 year veteran of corrupt DC politics and a hardcore former DA.

    3. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
      Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Strategically, this was the best choice for Biden now. If you have noticed on TV lately, Trump is running an ad with a Black lady holding up a sign saying she is fearful for her children. The actress does not speak. Hidden message: "be seen but not heard." Harris will be heard. Interestingly enough, Harris silences those on the right who was worried about law and order. Women of color tend to be supportive of women of color; that, ironically enough, doesn't happen when White women tend to run-they don't get the White female vote. Harris helps to bring the party toward the center while her experiences along indicate she is open to listening to other areas of the party. But we won't know until the votes are counted. Yet, with the rise of woemn of color taken leadership positions across the country, this may be an optimizing choice for the former VT.

      1. GA Anderson profile image90
        GA Andersonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        You stole my thunder Tim. I was going to make those same points.

        I think the two most important assets she brings are the one about the law and order perception and her appeal to the more moderately Left in the Democrat party. They aren't all as far-left as Sanders or AOC and I suspect they are feeling the same way about their party, as a lot of Republicans were feeling 10 years ago—their party left them.

        Biden has already shifted as far Left as Sanders and that should be acceptable to the Far-left, and now Harris can be the moderate component of the ticket that can appeal to the rest of the party.

        It is going to be a wild ride.

        GA

        1. Ken Burgess profile image90
          Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Its an interesting strategy... going after the Center and the Conservative votes with a hard core former AG.

          Going after the minority vote with a woman of color.

          It very well may come down to what America thinks about Harris.

          If she sells herself well in the next couple of months it may swing the undecided over.

          If she has a few Tulsi Gabbard moments where her own track record is thrown in her face, who knows... tough to tell.

          This election is likely to be a major disaster, I'm not sure it matters.

          1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
            Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            You forgot one: going after the female vote. How many women will probably vote for Harris simply because she is a woman? Women make up over half of the voting population, and Trump cannot gain traction in that arena. It was efforts by women in Tx., Ala., and other states which unseated Trump supporters in the midterms. Women had much to do with Represenative Cortez getting elected. Women are not the minority anymore.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image90
              Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              That argument easily fit the 2016 election as well.

              Amazing as it may seem... women don't vote merely based on a candidates sex.

              Some do...and they would have voted against Trump anyways.

              For the rest, I am sure it is totally irrelevant.

              1. savvydating profile image92
                savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Thank you. Conservative women don't vote that way. We prefer to think.

              2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
                Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                It's important to note: you brought up the different segments Harris would appeal to, and I brought up one more. Sex is relevant in politics as well as color. Haven't you heard of the Southern Strategy?

          2. GA Anderson profile image90
            GA Andersonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            Those are the reasons I think Harris was the smart choice for Biden.

            I also think she will be more smartly vicious than Biden in the campaign and debates. It's going to be bloody.

            However, I do think she has her work cut out for her defending her debate statements. The pundits are already repeating the "inauthentic" charge and I think her responses to coming challenges could make a difference with many of the voters that were the reason she was chosen.

            After listening to her "acceptance" speech I am worrying that I may have stepped on my pecker thinking she represented a more moderate position for the ticket.

            GA

            1. Ken Burgess profile image90
              Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              I preface this by saying I have doubts that anything regarding any of these candidates will make much difference.

              We have a revolutionary base (small but active percentage of the populace) trying to foster an outright Critical Theory/Marxist revolution.

              And it seems this movement has support in a few State government officials or councils (CA, WA & OR being where most of them are concentrated).

              We have had 75 days of continuous riots in Portland, the Seattle police have been defunded and the chief has resigned, LA is doing some crazy stuff where they are cutting off people's water and electricity for violating social distancing rules...

              So when we finally get around to having an election, a Mail-In ballot election with rampant fraud being exposed, and it taking weeks to determine the count... the chaos will be full swing, and no matter who "wins" neither side is going to be OK with it.

              And of course, then we have the economic turmoil that has yet to truly hit us because of months of closing down businesses and putting people out of work.

              Its called a SH!T STORM the likes of which none of us have lived through coming our way... I can only imagine how well it will be handled if Biden is taking the reigns, whoooo weee!

              Got side tracked...

              So if I am a Progressive, Race Compensation, Defund the Police, type of voter... Harris is the worst thing ever put on a Presidential ticket.

              Her background and her family history speaks for itself.

              If I am a Blue Lives Matter Moderate, she is appealing but there is no way in heck I am trusting the Democratic Party, not after the show we have seen from cities like Seattle and Portland... oh no, no amount of racist or sexist accusations against Trump is going to have me ever side with that Party again in my lifetime.

              The Defund the Police, Looting is Reparations, Open Borders and no Background checks, positions being bantered about or supported by the Democrat politicians... no thanks, anyone out in the suburbs that has been paying any attention at all wants none of that.

              She might make for a great Republican candidate... but as a Democratic Candidate... the Left will hate her... and everyone else will be scared to death of allowing the Democrats to take control unless they have had blinders on to what is going on the last 3 months.

    4. savvydating profile image92
      savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      She definitely does not pass the Progressive VP smell test given her record as District Attorney in San Francisco, but most Democrats do not want a radical like Bass.... and frankly, they'd vote for Mr. Ed if he were on the ticket. After all, they chose Biden, who can barely form two sentences.

      I fondly call Biden's pick, 'Kamala-who-cares.'

      I feel she is a safe choice overall.

      I also believe she will debate well against Pence. If Biden wins, they will be a one-term president. That's the good news. I do not believe she can handle the pressure of the highest office.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image90
        Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        That is just the problem however... she will not be endeared to the revolutionaries.

        And lets be real, we have been creating hundreds of thousands of revolutionaries in our colleges the past decade or two.

        These are the people we know today as Antifa, Anarchists and BLM.

        These are the people that rioted and destroyed colleges in years past, they are now rioting in the streets and pushing for their revolution.

        Harris will be just as unappealing to them as Trump.

        Trump was only a Reality TV Star before he became President.

        Harris is the epitome of Law & Order Oppression and Incarceration of the Innocent.

        These are not the people that will get behind Harris or the corrupt Establishment hack that Biden is.

        To them there is no difference between Biden & Harris and Trump & Pence.

        For what it is worth a Trump Presidency is probably more Liberal and Libertarian than anything we would see under Biden & Harris.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLa77pevxH4

        The people that video is highlighting will never accept Biden & Harris.

        1. savvydating profile image92
          savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          The radical Left will go along with her. Even Credence, who supports the Black Panthers, will will vote for her. They have no choice. Their only mission is to defeat Trump. Yes, they would have preferred the Communist Bass, but Bass would have tuned off the middle. Most voters still reside in the middle. The radicals can still work with Biden and get him to do anything they want.... so his seemingly "law & order" pick will work well for him because she will go whichever way the left wind tells her to go. She and Biden are alike.

          As I mentioned, I do not believe she has the 'cajones' to be a decent president. Just another "Yes man" who will cave under real pressure. She's done it before.....

          1. Credence2 profile image82
            Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

            Right, Savvy, we have no choice.

            Besides the mission to defeat Trump, I wanted more from the proposed candidates. But, that is not in the cards now and I must live with the reality of who it is that I have to work with.

            As far as I am concerned, they are both corporate Democrats, but anything is better than Donald Trump and Mike Pence.

            1. savvydating profile image92
              savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Well, take heart. Our friend 'emge' is correct. Harris' voting record is radically Left. She only has the persona of being moderate. In reality, she will be the golden girl of the radical Left. She is corrupt through and through and mean as a snake. Congratulations.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image90
            Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            No, Credence is not part of their generation or their belief system.

            These people have learned on their college campuses to riot to shut down all voices of opposition, to get professors removed, to change campus policy... they do not compromise, they do not debate... they demand and they destroy.

            These young people are spreading out into companies like Facebook, Twitter and Google, they are getting elected to State and local government positions, they are being hired by the NYTimes and WPost.

            They have been "graduating" from the Universities for years now taking what they have learned into the "real world".



            They want far more than that.

            The OLD Elite crowd, the Inside the DC belt cronies, the establishment MSM want to destroy Trump and regain power and control.

            These movements being pushed by young people... be they Bernie Boys or BLM... aren't focused on Trump or moderate compromise.

        2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
          Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          We already had a revolution: it was the American one. Besides, the revolution will not be televised.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image90
            Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            I suggest you take your blinders off and put your biases aside and see what is really going on today.

            1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
              Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Back to you. You see through your biased blinders: we have the memo.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image90
                Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                I'm afraid YOU don't 'have the memo'.

                You have not seemed to understand what I am trying to express, and it appears to me, that you are assigning racist and sexist bias where none exists.

                The article linked below is from someone with a far different background than my own, but she is hitting on much of what I am trying to convey.

                https://medium.com/unsafe-space/a-liber … 4abb7dc8aa

                1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
                  Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Of course, we have the memo. We wrote it. we will agree to disagree with your assessment.

      2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
        Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Name calling? Have you been a senator? Show respect. oh yeah, only for Trump. When you can't attack her record as a tough prosecutor, her intelligence, her rising above, you label. To quote someone: "You write memos and so do we. We got the memo on this tactic. You want her to be silent while garbage comes from the top.

        1. savvydating profile image92
          savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          False. Your Party tries to silence those who disagree with your party line. I want Kamala to speak all she wants. Conservatives continue to fight hard for 1st Amendment rights for everyone. Brush up on your history:. Kamala was not tough when she needed to be and tough when she should not have been. Anyone can put a marijuana smoker in jail. Progressives are suspicious of her because of her past criminal justice record.
          I never said she couldn't be tough. Those are your words, not mine. But my sense is that she isn't fair and I do not like that about her because she pretends to care.

          https://theappeal.org/kamala-harris-cri … ntial-run/

          So anyway, perhaps as a "journalist" or "publisher" you would do well to stop putting words in other people's mouths. Thanks.

          1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
            Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            So, you think you can silence me and all of us, right? (I was right about the sign in the commercial). It goes on. You guys are so fond of calling names and using fabrication, that you miss things. Psychologically: It's good you recognize "tough" is subjective. (20 points.) My, my, you have no idea about my party affiliation. You know it all - don't you. Maybe you should read some history. You really have your facts wrong about the Republican party. Seen this before. Right now, I'm a citizen; aren't you. Or are you something else. lol.

          2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
            Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            "..But my sense is that she isn't fair and I do not like that about her."
            Hmm. Fairness is subjective. I suppose you hold the moral superior high ground on that, too.

    5. abwilliams profile image66
      abwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      It's funny to me, that Kamala is being portrayed as "a moderate" in MSM circles. Kamala Harris has no qualms whatsoever, tinkering with State's rights...depending on the State! When it comes to the subject of abortion, for example, she believes that States, which are more conservative with their abortion laws, need to first go through the Justice Dept., in any further attempts to protect the unborn.

      No word from her as to the more liberal States, which go much too far.

      We must not be fooled, there is nothing moderate about Kamala Harris.

      1. GA Anderson profile image90
        GA Andersonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        That was meant as moderate relative to the current Democrat Left, (and Biden's current positions). Not moderate as a Conservative would view the term.

        GA

        1. abwilliams profile image66
          abwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          I didn't think it out quite that far GA. 
          I shouldn't be amused by how the media is portraying her, it is all or nothing when it comes to today's Democratic Left....
          Maybe they truly see her as moderate, because of her prosecutorial record (although she went on to become one of the most liberal Senators of all time) OR maybe it's deliberate, to win over the fence riders.  ~shrug~

          1. GA Anderson profile image90
            GA Andersonposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            I have heard that claim that she was the most Liberal Senator. But then I also heard a pundit say that Sanders and Warren must be thinking, "What the hell . . . "

            I am only speaking from my own perceptions, be they right or wrong. I don dare listen to the media because each will present its own biased interpretations.

            GA

        2. Ken Burgess profile image90
          Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          I have given some more consideration to this pick, and to Biden.

          It really does appear the DNC and the powers that be do not want to win this race... I think they are positioning for 2024.

          They will let Trump get stuck holding the bag, the economic crisis that is to come in the months/years ahead has a good chance to be worse than anything seen in America since the 30s.  Worse than last decades Recession, worse than the Recession/Gas-Crisis in the 70s.

          Then when the people are desperate enough, they will be much more willing to cling to any alternative that is presented, even the most extreme.

          There are some people that would have had far more political appeal, Michele Obama I have to believe would be crushing it right now, and be way ahead of where Biden is... maybe they are saving her for 2024?

          Heck... AOC might be the hottest name out there come 2024... and the young 'revolutionary' crowd from which the likes of Antifa and BLM swell their numbers will have grown (graduated) considerably more numbers by that time.

          Who follows Trump for the Republicans?

          No one... Trump is a break-the-mold one of a kind.

          The Pendulum always swings back.

          This lackluster ticket is not going to inspire the people.

          And old man that can't be allowed out of the basement... and a former AG that the radical Left will never rally around.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
            Kathryn L Hillposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            ... and if it does, it was not meant to. I agree.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
    Kathryn L Hillposted 10 months ago

    Darn, I thought it would be Michele.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
      Kathryn L Hillposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      ... doesn't matter at all. The voting is not going to go well.
      I predict civil war after the "election."
      Hope I'm wrong again.
      big_smile

      1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
        Stevennix2001posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        I personally think this country is screwed no matter who wins the election but that's just me.  Hope I'm wrong though.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image90
          Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          I project a stabilization and continuation of an OK economy for another 3 years if Trump wins.

          All of his enemies, foreign and domestic, will focus their strength and energies in 2024... I expect all of 2023 to be just as bad economically as we see things today (don't know how they will accomplish it, but they will find a way) and they will come up with a far more charismatic candidate than Biden to run.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
    Kathryn L Hillposted 10 months ago

    .... only hatred will oust Trump.
    and I'm worried.

  4. Readmikenow profile image99
    Readmikenowposted 10 months ago

    I think Republicans are more excited about Kamala Harris being Joe Biden's VP choice than Democrats.  The ONLY way Biden could defeat President Donald Trump is if he were to appeal to his base.  That certainly hasn't happened.  Harris will appeal to those on the left and that's it.  Mainstream America will have a good chance to see what she is all about, and I don't think it will play well with them.

  5. emge profile image79
    emgeposted 10 months ago

    I think she is a poor choice but then the cupboard is bare and there doesn't seem to be anybody who fits the bill. From what I have seen of her past clippings and speeches she does not seem to inspire confidence and has stereotyped ideas. She is closer to the left and some points I found her statements on Kashmir and India to be very naive. She's basically from Indian origin and all her roots are in Delhi and Madras and see associates with her relations there. She has very little connection with black except that her father was with her mother for seven years and she's never associated with any relations of father or with him. I think she's a poor choice. To have Her as a VP and God forbid anything happens to Biden then she will be president and that will sink America.

    1. savvydating profile image92
      savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      I agree, emge. As District Attorney, she prosecuted the little guy, marijuana offenders and the like. She never had the guts to go after the big guys who were the real offenders. She's as phony and naive as they come--- a dangerous combination....Always willing to make deals with the devil. California hated her for her cowardice, but the cronies rewarded her  loyalty to them.

      A telling choice for Biden. A bad choice for America.

      1. Credence2 profile image82
        Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Since when have Republicans ever been concerned about the little guy?She should be their ideal "law and order" candidate

        1. savvydating profile image92
          savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Since the beginning, when we first drafted the Constitution in 1787; since we elected Abraham Lincoln and lost over 322,000 men to secure freedom for all and save this Union; since we continue to put up with being called all manner of ugly names even though we fight for our First Amendment rights and all rights every day, even though our efforts go largely unnoticed by the masses. By and large, we are the little guy--- meaning we are the workers and the builders... the one's with common sense and core values.

          Kamala is not a "law & order" candidate. She is a corrupt politician. She will suit the Left perfectly. She can be molded with little to no effort. One day she is here, the other day, she is there.

          Conservatives have no interest in Kamala beyond what we can expose about her. She is Biden's problem now.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image79
            Kathryn L Hillposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            She is mean.

          2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
            Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            So her record is irrelevant? So her experience is irrelevant? She's not a moderate? She is left to the extreme? Perhaps, she is a solution. Really? We see what happens when we elect leaders without any experience. Keep digging around the real "problem" you have with senator Harris.

        2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
          Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Considering research has shown the Republicans could be on their way to loosing a very large segment of the electorate - women - I'm not surprised. It wouldn't matter what Harris has or has not done; we all know what elephant the Republicans don't want to mention because it is part of the inability to even recognize they are gripped by the Southern Strategy which no one can comment on from the extreme right. She is not just a capable female, but (fill in the blank.)

          1. savvydating profile image92
            savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            There is no Southern Strategy by Republicans.. That is a racist statement.

            1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
              Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Lindsey Graham (R) S.C., famously stated: The Republicans needed to recruit more "angry White guys." Not to mention research Nixon's strategist. You should not tell a long-time political follower and columnist about things you are unfamiliar with. How else can you explain the likes of Duke and Spencer finding shelter in the Republican party? Race is what the right wing doesn't want to talk about, but it is front and center in the extreme. You are making racist statements about me, see. Don't be "angry" because I know the topic well. By the way, call Harris mean loud, and the other negatives you contribute to educated people who don't have a particular hue, remember: she has heard that a lifetime from the extreme right. It will only make her fight harder. Not to mention, she will gather more allies. People of color have a culture which befuddles the extreme right. You better study.

              1. Credence2 profile image82
                Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Geez, Tim, this is spot on. Where have you been hiding?

                I am encouraged by your positive assement of Harris making me believe that, perhaps, all is not lost.

              2. savvydating profile image92
                savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                You do not get to twist the truth about my statement by deploying race baiting. Not okay.. Republicans reject racism and racists, like Duke or anyone. That is why we fought to end slavery and marched right along with Martin Luther King, Jr. Those were not Democrats marching with him.
                Yours is the Party of segregation, the Klu Klux Klan and Jim Crow. Just because Lyndon Johnson turned that narrative around to secure the black vote doesn't make the Conservative commitment to freedom for all any less true.

                I have studied well. I suggest you do the same.

                1. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
                  Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Why do you not recognize the Southern Strategy? Race baiting? Please. Can you truly say Lincoln would be pleased with Trump? Check the history of the party. It's a matter of historical fact: Southerners, who fought against the Union, swore to destroy the party that freed slaves. With the passage of Civil Rights (by the Democrats and Congress) racist fled to the Republican party. I want play the Republican switch history around. In any case, don't you think the party of Lincoln should have put the first Black president in office? I'm a student of American history: go find some truth.

                  1. Readmikenow profile image99
                    Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    "passage of Civil Rights (by the Democrats and Congress) racist fled to the Republican party"

                    Where do you get your information?  Seriously.

                    "The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a significant event in converting the Deep South to the Republican Party; in that year most Senatorial Republicans supported the Act (most of the opposition came from Southern Democrats)."

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

              3. Readmikenow profile image99
                Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                I have a question.  Who was the first and only black, female Secretary of State?  How did the Democrats and the media treat her? 

                Does the name Condoleezza Rice ring a bell?  Ah, she got all the praise from the Democrats that a black conservative experiences.  Everything from being called an Uncle Tom to being referred to as Aunt Jamima from black members of Congress and NYT columnists.  Happens to EVERY black conservative.  Yeah, if you're black you have to believe a certain way to be accepted by Democrats. THAT is a fact. 

                There have been and currently are so many African-American Republicans I can't list them all so here is a link to them.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A … epublicans

                This sort of destroys the Republican's are racist argument.

                1. abwilliams profile image66
                  abwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Hear, hear....Herman Cain!
                  I supported him and had the opportunity to hear him speak and the pleasure of meeting him once.
                  Look how he was treated...he had to step out of the race for the peace of mind and well-being of his family!
                  He was a great man, but the left couldn’t get past the fact that he was a conservative black man.

                2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
                  Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Did Graham make the comment or not? Was there a Southern Strategy which is still active or not? Does Nazis and White supremist hang out in the Republican party? Did Trump Tweet "White power" or not? Likewise, there are many White politicians in the Democrat Party which means it is not a racist party either. There are different races in all parties. Ms. Rice deserved her post, but it wasn't the top post was it? One party has an agenda based on"culture wars," which in itself, is a race and sex oriented strategy which fits quite well with the Southern Strategy. Another truth: The Great Society programs started in the 1960s - these Republicans want to dismantle. The party changed drastically after Bush Jr. was president. This is an extremist element of the party in control now in the White House and Senate.

                  1. Readmikenow profile image99
                    Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    Explain he constant and non-stop attacks on black conservatives by Democrats?  Why are the banned from being part of the Congressional Black Caucus ? Unlike Kamala Harris who filled a position that could only be filled by a black woman...which is evidence of being a sexist and racist organization. Condoleezza Rice is a brilliant academic who earned her position because she was the best choice of any color or sex.  I believe that Democrats accuse others of what they are guilty of doing.  It's proven true again and again and again.

  6. abwilliams profile image66
    abwilliamsposted 10 months ago

    Tim, my friend, I am sorry, but this is not so. LBJ was an awful person, he went along with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for one reason and for one reason only!
    I will not repeat the words of  LBJ, they are as offensive today as they were back then.
    It only passed...because the Republican Party exists!
    There was no switch.
    Lincoln’s Party is the same Party of today.

  7. ValKaras profile image87
    ValKarasposted 10 months ago

    Readmikenow -- I can't help being myself, and being an oddball in my articles, I will sound like one here as well.
    So, what I can't really understand is -- why so much significance is given to people's badmouthing? What makes those people some experts in matters of politics? Actually, a simple logic tells us that those who really have some class and education never use offensive language. They don't lower themselves to the level of ignoramuses who believe that by calling someone a name they are beating their policies.
    Who really cares what such people have to say? While freedom of speech covers them too, let them discharge their toxicity, but that doesn't mean that they have to be treated as important -- not enough to be even mentioned.

    This pathetic tag of war is going on and on, and at the end whoever gets to be a president -- will inevitably become a target of someone's badmouthing -- per the national tradition. It's all barking at the moon, like a pretty sickening national pastime where hate and intolerance are the only rule of the game.

    Have you noticed how nobody is saying anything positive about anybody -- it's all the negative crap, like in some masochistic/sadistic dark passion.

    Well, so much from me. I was fair enough to announce my being an oddball. Now you guys can continue.

    1. Readmikenow profile image99
      Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Val, I can't disagree with anything you've written.

      In the United States, Republicans watched President George Bush be destroyed by the media and Democrat lies.  He never fought back.  It caused much destruction of the Republican party.  We were all frustrated by George Bush just taking it on the chin,

      Well, Donald Trump fights back. The Democrats and the left have tried to destroy him like they did George Bush. It hasn't happened.  The Democrats fight dirty and the only way to defeat them is to treat them like they treat others.  So, I don't think saying terrible things about one another will end any time soon.  It's no longer a debate, it's a battle.

      I appreciate your response and being very polite about this issue.

    2. savvydating profile image92
      savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Yeah....so, when someone may have been banned from Q & A for about a year at one time because of offensive language, "toxicity" and "negative crap" and also advised by HP to remove an article about a hubber that was pure libel, I do not think that person is in a position to advise others about positivity or others' "masochistic/ sadistic dark passions."

      Just saying.

  8. abwilliams profile image66
    abwilliamsposted 10 months ago

    aka: Republican.

    1. savvydating profile image92
      savvydatingposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Nope.

  9. Credence2 profile image82
    Credence2posted 10 months ago

    I am still irritated with Joe for setting up Democrats for criticism by promising the selection of a black female for the VP slot. Even Wilderness is correct in his assessment that Biden should have began with saying that he was seeking the best person for the job regardless of gender or color, then make his selection.

    I don't like pandering or identity politics as it diverts the party objectives toward the superficial and trivial and misses the substance of what are the critical differences between the parties and candidates.

    Listening to all the conservatives here, the way I see it, anything that nudges slightly left of Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones is the "radical left" for them.

    1. abwilliams profile image66
      abwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Cred, on this we can agree! Other than putting Rush in the same category as Alex Jones...no, no, no...Rush is in a category of his own. smile
      Happy weekend! Stay safe!!

      1. Credence2 profile image82
        Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks, same to you....

        Like I always say, don't waste your time pandering, if you really want to impress me, do your damn job.

        1. abwilliams profile image66
          abwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          ^5

        2. Readmikenow profile image99
          Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Cred, I agree with you.

          I do have friends who are Democrats.  They are beyond frustrated with the party and what is happening with it.  He is afraid there is so much disagreement, it could split.  The progressives go their way, and the other Democrats go another way.  He believes this would cause huge damage to the Democrat party.

          Do you see the disagreements within the Democrat party causing it to split?  Is it really that bad?

          1. Credence2 profile image82
            Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

            I am afraid that all this will be just a referendum on Donald Trump and I wanted it to be that much more.

            If Biden runs a ho-hum campaign and does not really distinguish himself from his opponent, we may have what happened in 2016 happen again. Too many Democrats will sit it out in frustration. We can't have that happen again. Ideological lefties like me knows what is at stake and must support the Democratic nominee, regardless.

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image86
              Stevennix2001posted 10 months agoin reply to this

              I think one thing both republicans and democrats can agree on is that this is probably going to be one of if not the most important election in US history because we're going to need some strong leadership to lead us out of this economic crisis, during the pandemic.  Not to mention the possible cold war with China looming around the corner, and North Korea wanting to bomb us all the time.  And the possible war with Iran that could happen any minute, so I think it's wise that everyone votes now than they have in years past because this election will determine whether the US remains a huge powerhouse in the world, or crumble like the Roman Empire once did.

              1. Credence2 profile image82
                Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Lets face it, the skill set required to be president is different from that required to be a media star.

                I can't trust this Trump to even level with us as to the extent of the varied crisis. 

                These issues require subtle nuance and diplomatic skill, when Trump is the equivalent of a busted chain saw, today.

                Bringing people in without political experience has proven to be a mistake.

                Finesse, not sable rattling will be what is needed in the new political milieu, people that are willing to listen and learn as it is impossible for any novice to know all there is to know about the varied challenges before us now.

                And none of that is Donald Trump.

              2. Ken Burgess profile image90
                Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                OK then, lets consider what we know.

                Trump is definitely NOT a warmonger... he is the most anti-war President we have had since Clinton, maybe even Carter.

                The man is trying to get us out of Afghanistan, and has minimized his responses to the provokings of Iran and China and North Korea.

                The Economy was chugging right along until the pandemic hit, despite Trump's tough trade negotiations with the rest of the world.

                Hmmm...

                1. Readmikenow profile image99
                  Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Ken,

                  I would also add that the recent agreement for the UAE to recognize Israel is also a very huge accomplishment.

    2. Tim Truzy info4u profile image98
      Tim Truzy info4uposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, I was hoping he could convince Gov. Como of N.Y. That would have been interesting

 
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