The President Pressures Georgia Sec. of State to "Find" Votes

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   crankaliciousposted 2 weeks ago

   In what is now a publicly available recorded call, the President of the United States called the Secretary of State in Georgia and pressured him to find enough votes to overturn the result in Georgia.
   
   “The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” the President said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”
   
   At another point, the President said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”
   
   Hard to believe.

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      Live to Learnposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Yes. It is.

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         crankaliciousposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Glad we agree on something.

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      MizBejabbersposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Good thing I don't wear dentures because I would have dropped them on this one. Is there nothing this president won't do to become president for life (dictator)?

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         crankaliciousposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Agreed. I think we're watching the end of Democracy and the end of America as we know it. Nobody ever would have imagined a President doing what Trump is doing. He's basically now saying that Pence gets to pick the next President.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Last Saturday, President Trump held an hour-long call with Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state,  He was joined on the call by White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and several lawyers, including longtime conservative attorney Cleta Mitchell and Georgia-based attorney Kurt Hilbert. Raffensperger was joined by his office’s general counsel, Ryan Germany, and Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs.
      
      That phone call was leaked to WAPO -- wonder who leaked the call?   Was it Raffensperger, he gave a statement he did not leak it. Was it Trump or his others that were on the call?
      
      I must ask did he really ask or try to request Georgia's Secretary Of State Raffensperger to "find" votes?  He did most certainly say "And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”
      
      And yes, your quote is correct that he stated " “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”
      
      But what else did he say leading up to his statements. The very two statements that the media found interesting and news worth? Most certainly these statements are a tasty bit of scandal. And most certainly these two sentences will once again have President Trump one foot into a jail cell.
      
      However, the media has once again left out over an hour of conversation that certainly leaves those two statements context questionable.
      
      The conversation is very revealing, Trump making many claims of fraud, and Raffensperger saying actually little.
      
      While Mark Meadows negotiates a meeting to "Meadows: Yeah. So let me let me recommend, Ryan, if you and Kurt will get together, you know, when we get off of this phone call, if you could get together and work out a plan to address some of what we’ve got with your attorneys where we can we can actually look at the data. For example, Mr. Secretary, I can you say they were only two dead people who would vote. I can promise you there are more than that. And that may be what your investigation shows, but I can promise you there are more than that. "
      
      Long call, but very interesting to listen to it in its entirety.
      
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.html

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         crankaliciousposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Interesting that you seem more concerned about a leaked call than about the President of the United States trying to pressure an elected official to change votes after that state counted those votes three different times.
         
         Of course someone in Raffensberger's office leaked the call. Because when they had the same call with Lindsay Graham and Graham pressured him to change votes, Graham then lied about it. And since Trump lies like he breathes,  Raffensperger wanted proof of what he was saying. Nobody in their right mind would get on the phone with Trump and not record it because they know he won't tell the truth about what he said.
         
         This is criminal and impeachable and Trump should be prosecuted. Nobody who cares about this country or Democracy should support this man any longer.
         
         He hasn't presented any evidence to support his claims and he just continues to spew conspiracy theories like he's a child reading the internet for the first time. It's embarrassing and sad and the end of our country. If the Republicans had control of the House, they would happily overturn the election and turn our country into a dictatorship. That much is clear.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Yes, I found it interesting that someone broke the law and leaked the call. But, as I said I am not sure who leaked it. Trump could have thought he would get lots of people looking for the call, and did you note he spoke at length pointing out what he said was large numbers of fraudulent votes. Not sure he did not leak this himself. His base is screaming about large scale fraud. Just saying.
            
            Did you listen to the complete call? It is telling.
            
            Impeachable? Not sure about that. I mean the full call has context that is pretty clear and tons of others on the call.
            
            IMO I do not think anything will overturn the election.

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         MizBejabbersposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Perhaps you were watching the wrong station. CNN ran the whole hour-long telephone call. Nothing was left out, which would include any context and the president's inflection during the call.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            I actually read the full transcript and listened to the complete call  WAPO have both posted. I did provide the link. I must admit the president was making lots of accusations, and he gave no information on how he could prove it.  Meadows did claim he had a different number of people that were dead that voted. IMO I do not feel the president should have made that call, he should have let Meadows handle it. He sounded truly uninformed about what he was claiming.

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      tsmogposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      I find it interesting that he even called. Motive comes to mind. Anyway here is a link to the Trump call transcript and audio.

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