Do You Want To Pay For Abortion-Referring Clinics?

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   Sharlee01posted 3 years ago

   
   I don't want to pay for your choice, that's what I choose.  So if you choose, you have to pay for your choice. 
   
   Biden reverses Trump's ban on federal funds for abortion-referring clinics.
   
   The Biden administration has been very busy --- Today Biden rescinded a 2018 Trump-era regulation Monday that blocked federal funding for family planning clinics that refer patients for abortion.
   
   This will allow Title X money to resume for abortion-referring clinics. This goes into effect on Nov. 8.2021.
   
   "Today more than ever, we are making clear that access to quality family planning care includes accurate information and referrals — based on a patient’s needs and direction," Health and Human Services Xavier Becerra said about the revision.
   
   "Abby Johnson, former Planned Parenthood director and founder of And Then There Were None, told Fox News in a statement about the regulation: "Abortion clinics and those clinics that refer for abortion should never receive taxpayer funding. Polling indicates most Americans agree with this. If abortion advocates want government out of their bedroom, then they should stop taking government money.
   
   "While Title X money should not go to clinics that refer for abortion, Planned Parenthood and their allies are experts at getting around this minor rule and now, thanks to Biden and all those who voted for him, they no longer need to hide it."
   
   So a very straightforward question --- Do you want to pay for federal funds for abortion-referring clinics?

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      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      As long as abortion is considered legal there is no reason at all to remove funding from family planning clinics that do a great deal of good. Not even if they respect the choice of the patient and refer them to an abortion clinic for a procedure they do not do themselves.

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      GA Andersonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      A straightforward answer: Yes.
      
      GA

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   Valeantposted 3 years ago

   Yes.  Because providing information still leaves the choice up to the family.  As with many examples of free speech, I support it.  The 'gag rule' created by Trump was a means of suppressing free speech, which had multiple lawsuits filed against it.  And Title X assists low-income and uninsured Americans with a whole host of other services.
   
   Plus with 209 million citizens 18 and above, and a cost of 286 million dollars, the cost is $1.37 to those above the age of 18.  I think there are other things to get worked up over than something as negligible as this.

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   Sharlee01posted 3 years ago

   "Family Planning clinics" --- The great majority of referral clinics provide abortions, and receive will again be funded by our tax dollars.  These clinics do little else than abortion.  -- A small amount of the work that Planned Parenthood does is about preventative health, and abortion referrals.   According to its latest annual report, Planned Parenthood performed 354,871 abortions in the 2019-20 fiscal year-a a 2.7% increase from the 2018-19 year, which was a 3% increase from the year before that.
   
   These organizations in my view are storefronts for abortion in the backroom. They actually do little else but refer women to Physicians for medical care or Testing for health problems. This would seem like a good thing, but the majority of the work they do is abortion.
   
   I don't want to pay for abortions period.  I think family planning and screening centers do have a place. However, they should not offer abortions under their roofs, only health care screening, and referrals. If this were the case, you would see Planned Parenthood close its doors.

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      Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      You don't want to pay for abortions, but I may not want to pay for obese people and their se cond coronary bypass. As wilderness says, abortion is a legal medical procedure and currently there is no reason to treat it any differently than any other. I have to pay for all sorts of things of which I disapprove like the voracious defense budget, for example. So, excuse me, if I have to ask you to inconvience yourself this time.

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         Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I don't want to pay for someone's choice, that's what I choose.  So if a woman chooses abortion, she has to pay for her choice.
         Abortion is an option, it is not a medical condition.  As I said family planning and screening centers have their place. They promote health and options of how to plan a family and possibly avoid the need for an abortion.
         
         Abortion is a topic that most have very strong feelings about. One, as a rule, is for it or against it.  I am pro-life. Hell, I am a nurse... I have witnessed too much to not appreciate life over death.

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            Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Ok, understood, while I disagree with your reasoning.
            
            I abhor the practice as well, but the difference is that I cannot presume for the circumstances of my neighbor.
            
            If conservatives have their way they would ban abortion at conception, what are the ramifications to society of such temerity and gall?

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               Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I have needed to weigh the pros and con's in regard to abortion. I have witnessed botched abortions, spontaneous abortions, and abortions due to medical problems. There is a need for some abortions to be performed. So many variables to be considered. The subject is so vast, I think people dig in without really considering all the variables of abortions.

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            Valeantposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            A woman does have to pay for that choice.  No federal tax dollars can go to pay for that choice.
            
            Now, what this post is about is being against providing people education and information that could help them make an informed decision pertaining to their own health.

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   abwilliamsposted 3 years ago

   Absolutely not.
   When I thought I might be pregnant with our first child, I went to "Planned Parenthood", I knew nothing about their purpose, but I was told it would be a lot faster than finding a Doctor, making an appointment for a simple pregnancy test.
   When I found out that I was, in fact, pregnant, the two women working there assumed I wanted an abortion! I DID NOT.
   I was shocked by their assumption and reaction and they were shocked that I planned to keep my baby. After a few awkward minutes, I asked about supplements/vitamins, who they'd recommend I see, any advice...CRICKETS! I chose LIFE and they had nothing else to say to me and they wanted nothing to do with me.
   I will never forget that day, as long as I live!

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   FraughtwThoughtsposted 3 years ago

   Then do taxpayers get to choose which programs we fund.

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      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Only in that we elect officials that will then make the decision.
      
      Not completely out of line, for precious few people will consider the wants OR needs of others when deciding where tax dollars will go.  (Of course, modern politicians care mostly about their re-election, and how they can buy that with our tax dollars, but the theory and intent is still there.)

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