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Would you vote to end federal funding for Planned Parenthood?

  1. myvoternation profile image52
    myvoternationposted 6 years ago

    Let's debate this issue!

    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I would vote to cut public funding for Planned Parenthood. 

      They provide little actual health care and what they do provide is duplicated in other places.   The birth control they do provide doesn't work.  The other services just front as a means of getting women in the door.   The real money is in abortions. 

      They routinely build their facilities near schools and in poor neighborhoods.   

      They are committing genocide.

      Planned Parenthood employees routinely ignore glaring instances of child sexual abuse and child prostitution.

      http://www.frcaction.org/exposed

      1. kerryg profile image88
        kerrygposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        "They routinely build their facilities near schools and in poor neighborhoods.   

        They are committing genocide."

        I love it. When poor women have babies they can't afford to take care of and have to go on welfare, they're "irresponsible," and when they take advantage of one of the few services available to people with no insurance to get low cost birth control, they're contributing to the genocide of their own people. Either way, it's all their fault. Thumbs up! Heller himself couldn't have constructed a better Catch-22.

        1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
          Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Abortion is not birth control.

          1. lovemychris profile image56
            lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Nor is it murder.

          2. kerryg profile image88
            kerrygposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            95% of women (and men) who go to Planned Parenthood clinics are going for basic health care services, not abortion. These include:

               1. Birth control, obviously, including birth control pills, Depo shots, Plan B, IUD insertion/removal, and free condoms
               2. Pap smears
               3. Pregnancy testing and prenatal care
               4. Breast cancer screening
               5. STD testing, treatment, and prevention, including HPV vaccines
               6. Male infertility screening, testicular cancer screening, and erectile dysfunction services
               7. Menopause services
               8. General health care services like diabetes screening, flu vaccines, or anemia testing

            I've gone to them myself when my gynecologist didn't offer the type of IUD I wanted, and except for some problems getting through to make an appointment, I had a very good experience.

    2. profile image0
      Texasbetaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely not. Abortion is legal. Planned Parenthood is where you go. Period. Where do you get birth control when you don't want to go to your family doctor? Planned Parenthood. Period.
      The only problem people have with it is that they WANT abortion illegal, which it isn't.

      1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
        Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        The question isn't rather it's legal. It's rather you would vote to end funding. Something like this should not be funded. It's to controversial.

        I bet you would be against any kind of funding for Christian organizations even though they are legal.

        1. lovemychris profile image56
          lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          They're already funded....they don't pay taxes!

    3. lady_love158 profile image58
      lady_love158posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What's to debate, its a no brained... cut federal funding,  its not needed. The bulk of their money comes from abortions and the federal government should NOT be paying for abortions!

      1. lovemychris profile image56
        lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Funny...there is such a thing as The Hyde Amendment...
        Which allows for NO federal monies for abortion.

        Funny....Pres. Obama continued that draconian policy.

        I say: end public-funding for Viagara.

        http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/reader-di … ing-viagra

        1. profile image0
          Texasbetaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          She doesn't care about what is true or not.

          1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
            Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Thats your response to like 4 other threads...lol

        2. lady_love158 profile image58
          lady_love158posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I agree!! The teachers in WI refused to even give that up!!

          1. lovemychris profile image56
            lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            "Medicare, a publicly-funded program, covers Viagra."

            I don't think that applies to these WORKERS. But, even if it did, they are willing to negotiate the pay and benefits. What they WON'T negotiate is collective bargaining.

            We've already seen what happens when big business does whatever they want to do....

            Jobs......buh bye!
            Money......off to Cayman Islands..no taxes there, mate.

            Payment for living in these Great United States?


            arrrr, leave it up to the "little people"!

      2. Smkmdb11 profile image55
        Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        There should be a vote. And funding would not happen if there were a vote for the American people.

        The majority of Americans are still Conservative regardless of what like-minded liberals may say on hubpages, lol.

        1. lovemychris profile image56
          lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Did we vote to manufacture and supply white phosphorous to Israel so they could bomb babies in Palestine?

          Abortion is already decided...it's the law of the land.

          Get over it, and stop demonizing people who choose to use it.

          1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
            Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            We'll see

    4. Onusonus profile image79
      Onusonusposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Heck yeah. Paying for somone elses abortions is bunk. They use rape and incest as a front but the largest percentage of aborters is irresponsible teenagers.

    5. artlader profile image58
      artladerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I most certainly would not cut funding to Planned Parenthood.

      I would, in fact, vote to increase their funding.

      Thank you for asking.

      Regards,
      Art

  2. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Can't wait 'till reach a billion people like in China and India. Think you all complaining now about too much government.

    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Oh yeah, that's your final solution.  Kill them.  :=

  3. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Think the name is 'planed parenthood' not
    'kill-them parenthood'. But yes I am pro-abortion.

    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Your first post, knol, sort of left me with the impression you think of Planned Parenthood as a population control agency.

  4. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "population control agency." well that is my opinion that the population needs to be controlled. But it so anti-free, "I going to do whatever I want", that it is absolutely an unpopular perspective no matter the political stripe. From what I have heard, Planned Parenthood means the planning of birth by birth control: like condoms, pills, vasectomy etc. and planing when and how many children based on things like afford-ability, health and realistic considerations. Education.

    1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
      Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Wow. You sound like a pure socialist. Please...Please move to China. You'd love it there.

      Grow up.

      1. lovemychris profile image56
        lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        He IS the grow-up on this issue. You use your personal religion to dictate to all human beings. That is childish.

        Not everyone is like you.

  5. Mighty Mom profile image87
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Given the financial state of many US states these days, we can't expect state programs to replace PP if the feds stop funding it.
    If there were comparable services -- the entire suite of services, not just abortions -- available and affordbable -- we would not need federal funding for PP.

    I think of the situation like a cross between dominoes and jenga.
    The repercussions of one action need to be thought through.

    1. Doug Hughes profile image60
      Doug Hughesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The very name 'Planned Parenthood' is blasphemy. GOD will decide who will be parents and the only option that men and women have to affect the will of GOD is through self-denial - avoiding sin in all forms.

      Of course, then you look at the phony preachers from Swaggert to Jim & Tammy Baker to the gay evangelical clerics who have been caught recently. What a crock their piety is.

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Hey Doug, keep your religious tripe out of other people's affairs or life.

        1. Mrs. J. B. profile image60
          Mrs. J. B.posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          HAHAHA.....

  6. kerryg profile image88
    kerrygposted 6 years ago

    Heck, no! If you really want to reduce the number of abortions in this country, the best way to do it is to increase women's access to affordable, reliable birth control and reproductive health care. That's PPA's raison d'etre.

    1. artlader profile image58
      artladerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "increase women's access to affordable, reliable birth control and reproductive health care"

      Thank you for that reasonable, intelligent comment, kerryg.

      Regards,
      Art

  7. Mighty Mom profile image87
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Amen, kerryg.

    Same mantra they're using on Obama: damned if you do, damned if you don't.
    Can't win for losing with these holy roller types. sad

  8. Rafini profile image88
    Rafiniposted 6 years ago

    Yes, however, I would require Planned Parenthood become a part of the Medical Assistance program so it technically wouldn't lose federal funding.

  9. uncorrectedvision profile image61
    uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago

    Yes.  I would vote to defund any activity the federal government is supporting that is not in its constitutional responsibilities.

  10. prettydarkhorse profile image64
    prettydarkhorseposted 6 years ago

    Choice is very important. That is why we are here in a democratic country supposedly America. If you can't access safe abortion specially for confused teen agers, they end up doing it themselves which cause death.

    1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
      Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Democratic country?

      Just so ya know, the majority of Americans are Conservative and Republican.

      Our Founding Fathers scorn the word Democracy and never implied that we are a democracy. In their views, this is a Republic for the PEOPLE, and of the people.

      Of course, now a days the government oversteps their bounderies when they wake up out of bed every morning.

      1. profile image0
        Brenda Durhamposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Amen.

        I'll be following you after those remarks.

      2. prettydarkhorse profile image64
        prettydarkhorseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        democratic country meaning there is separation of powers and the power should emanate from the people. That is in principle.

        Where is the data that supports your claim that there are more Republicans defined as a member of or adhering to that political party?   

        The latest data is this : http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/state … ation.aspx

      3. artlader profile image58
        artladerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        "Just so ya know, the majority of Americans are Conservative and Republican."

        Not so.

        Tuesday, February 01, 2011: The number of American Adults identifying themselves as Republicans in January fell roughly a percentage-point-and-a-half from December to 35.4%.  Also in January, the number calling themselves Democrats inched up just over one point to 35.0%.

        http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … san_trends

  11. lovemychris profile image56
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    "Allow me to point out possibly the largest hypocrisy in politics: The idea that it's OK to use public funds so men can get it up and have sex, but it's not fair to provide birth control or reproductive services to the women they have sex with.
    So Planned Parenthood "promotes promiscuity" and Viagra promotes abstinence? Right.
    Well, ladies, I hope you either want a lot of children or know of a magical fairy who turns off your reproductive system until you're ready for motherhood.
    Myself, I have yet to meet that magical fairy. So until I do, I think public funds should stop paying for Viagra. I don't want my tax dollars contributing to men's erections, which could lead to unwanted pregnancy and abortion.
    What say ye, gentleman of Virginia?
    PS: Could you point me to an affordable clinic where I can get annual exams and cancer screenings? Thanks."

    1. profile image0
      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Check with your regular doctor or hospital.  In my State, there's a place called the Little Red Door that gives affordable cancer screenings, etc.
      And my doc told me (since I don't have insurance) that the related hospital offers free mammograms for women in my situation.
      There's also several clinics where a man or woman can get affordable STD testing, etc.

      Planned Parenthood would've been okay in itself IF it would do the job its name calls for, which is actual family planning instead of resorting to killing babies.

      I also think it's strange and beyond normal reasoning for Viagra to be covered by Medicare, if it is.  ...I wouldn't know....

      1. lovemychris profile image56
        lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        If men had the babies, there would be no problem with abortion either. Or welfare, for that matter.

        1. lady_love158 profile image58
          lady_love158posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Unfortunately for us that isn't the case so we have to deal with reality.

          1. lovemychris profile image56
            lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            NO! YOU deal with your reality....I"LL deal with mine.

    2. Smkmdb11 profile image55
      Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Lmao....your comparing stimulants to murder. Scientifically described murder.

      1. lovemychris profile image56
        lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Errrr, Viagra prdocues the factor which makes it possible for a man to have have sex...sex sex sex!!!
        Sex produces babies.

        End viagra funding and force men to have vasectomies...that will end abortion.

        IF that's what you really want?

        1. Smkmdb11 profile image55
          Smkmdb11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I think....I'm dumber for reading that...

  12. myvoternation profile image52
    myvoternationposted 6 years ago

    Love everyone's responses!  I like opinionated people!  I wish all of you would be on my debating site!

  13. SparklingJewel profile image78
    SparklingJewelposted 6 years ago

    like any other business should do, they should fund themselves by offering what they have to offer and donations from supporters...it's not the place of government

    if everyone would abide by that rule, we wouldn't have so many people in need...and if everyone had values that taught healthy sexual conduct, we wouldn't have so many unwanted pregnancies.

    we need to set those to goals up and meet them, gradually bringing us back from the brink of economic and civilization destruction

  14. profile image0
    Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago

    OMG, I just wrote a hub about a similar question. I basically don't think that the State can be responsible for everyone's choices. However, sometimes, in order to avert high crime, the state chooses to intervene by providing funds so that people don't reach a point where they steal and murder. I'd love to know where to draw the line on this!!! Did you know that internationally single mothers were the poorest sector of the lot - and that included divorced mothers.

  15. BillyDRitchie profile image59
    BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago

    I can't help but wonder if those same folks screaming in support of government funding for Planned Parenthood would be equally as rabid in their support for government funding of pro-life crisis pregnancy centers.

    1. Doug Hughes profile image60
      Doug Hughesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Billy - I think you would find support for any pregnancy center which supports the rights of women to make an informed choice about pregnancy and allows freely terminating a pregnancy in the early stages when that's the woman's decision.

      Everyone who is pro-choice is also pro-life for any woman who has DECIDED that she wants to take the pregnancy to term.

      1. lady_love158 profile image58
        lady_love158posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Yes but when its in the providers interest for women to chose abortion, the provider might be inclined to steer the decision to satisfy that interest. In the case of planned parenthood the interest is in performing abortion as that is more profitable and overwhelmingly where their income comes from. Again I don't have a problem with that but I do have a problem with my government supporting such an operation.

        1. lovemychris profile image56
          lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          That is  lie. Their funding does not come mainly from abortions!

          "One in five American women has used Planned Parenthood’s services. The vast majority of care — more than 90% — offered at Planned Parenthood health centers is preventative. Every year, Planned Parenthood carries out nearly one million screenings for cervical cancer — screenings which save lives. Every year, Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses give more than 830,000 breast exams — exams which save lives. Every year, nearly 2.5 million patients receive contraception from Planned Parenthood — a service which prevents enormous numbers of unintended pregnancies and, by extension, an enormous number of abortions. Every year, Planned Parenthood administers nearly 4 million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections, including HIV — tests and treatments which save lives, extend lives, preserve fertility, and maintain reproductive health."

          You read that? PREVENTS abortions. 90% is PREVENTATIVE.

          But of course, that doesn't matter since operation rescue has brainwashed the haters.

          And btw...abortion is a legal medical procedure...unless you are advocating for everyone to have accesss to YOUR private medical activity, y'all should think twice.

      2. BillyDRitchie profile image59
        BillyDRitchieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Unfortunately, Planned Parenthood almost always serves as the sales department for the abortion industry.  Their record stands as one of abortion, not encouraging any other alternatives such as adoption or finding a way to keep and care for the child.

        True, pro-life centers are not going to be providing abortion services, but still, if one is government funded, the other should be as well.

        1. lovemychris profile image56
          lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          That is complete and total HOG -WASH.

          1. lady_love158 profile image58
            lady_love158posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            If only it weren't so!

            1. lovemychris profile image56
              lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              "Unfortunately, Planned Parenthood almost always serves as the sales department for the abortion industry."

              If I was Planned Parenthood, I would sue for slander!

              1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
                BillyDRitchieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Tell them to fire away.....

              2. lady_love158 profile image58
                lady_love158posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=_W1iTZi2 … statements

                Maybe you should look at this before you pass judgement. Their own financials prove most of their income which is over 300 million dollars comes from abortion and the sale of fetal tissue.

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  As fine and unbiased a piece of work as we have come to expect from you LL.

                  1. AnnCee profile image70
                    AnnCeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    No response to the material then?  As we've come to expect from you.

    2. lovemychris profile image56
      lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Planned Parenthood IS just such a place!

      They provide services FOR a pregnancy too. They let the woman decide. They help with food and clothing. And doctors. And counseling. And help in finding a job, an apartment, legal help with child support from the father, etc etc etc etc, IF the woman decides to go to term.
      They can hook you up with all the social services that you people want to GUT.
      So how are they gonna keep a baby, support it and care for it with no father, and no money and no job????


      What exactly is your agenda for these unwanted babies? What are your plans for them? And is it insidious?

      1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
        BillyDRitchieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Your very use of the term "unwanted" babies is indicative of the tactics of the pro-abortion lobby....use all possible terminology to dehumanize the victims of abortion.  Makes it easier to kill them.

        There are answers to your questions, LMC, unfortunately, you repeatedly demonstrate that you are not interested in any rational discussion. I am wondering how long it will be before one of your famous wealth envy rants becomes a factor in this thread....

        1. lovemychris profile image56
          lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          "Makes it easier to kill them."

          This is your tactic, as if women have no feelings in them...no thought to what they do.
          This is the worst type of tactic you all use.
          De-Humanize women. You want to talk about the baby being human? What about the mother? Or is she just a machine at your command? No feelings, no thought, no emotion?

          You will force her to do something against her will. No getting around that. Carry that fetus by ORDER of the state.

          An yes..I actually DO know some of the answers...that's why I asked if it was insidious.

          So--once you slash and burn all the social help...where do these babies and moms go?
          Foster care? Wards of the State....but....you are getting rid of those programs.
          Funding for day-care: slashed
          Funding for WIC, food-stamps, welfare, housing?: slashed

          What is your answer, ONCE THEY GET HERE?

          1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
            BillyDRitchieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry, but I have a hard time defining any woman who would murder her unborn child as "human".

  16. Evan G Rogers profile image76
    Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

    yeah, definitely.

    Federal funding for ANYTHING is charity paid with by other people's money.

  17. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    The vote to defund Planned Parenthood has given the company a great opportunity to fund raise privately.   All you supporters have a  great opportunity to make a difference. smile

    http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org

    I hope you don't overwhelm the website!!!! big_smile


    Don't forget to support your choice to keep the population down.

  18. lovemychris profile image56
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    IN fact, if we want to get down to scientific fact...isn't sperm life?
    Don't you kill millions of little lives daily?

    That does it! Cut it off!!!!!

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What a stupid argument.  A sperm on it's own is not a human life. A sperm joined with an egg is.

      I cannot believe I'm having to explain Biology 101 to a grown woman....

  19. profile image66
    logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago

    I would vote to defund Planned Parenthood, as well as anything related to sexual activity, including Viagra for prisoners, Viagra for Wisconsin public employees and anything else that should be left to adult individuals.  None of this should be part of the public concern or funding!

    1. lovemychris profile image56
      lovemychrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      That is right! My private life is not the public's concern! FINALLY you see the light.

      Public funding is used daily with these lax gun laws and all these little kids going into hospitals daily from being shot.

      I demand all guns be confisated by order of the state. Or, let the NRA pay for the hospital visits.

  20. lovemychris profile image56
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    And I want a vote on guns.

    1. habee profile image94
      habeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, LMC. According to Gallup and USA Today, 73% of Americans believe that citizens should have the right to own guns.

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/105721/publi … -guns.aspx

  21. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 6 years ago

    Do state health departments still offer family planning clinics? I know ours used to, and my mom was in charge of it. The clinic offered prenatal care, post-natal care, and free contraceptive devices. At the time Mom worked there, I believe the clinics were funded by the state of GA. I don't know if they received fed funds or not. I do know that her salary was paid from the state and local coffers.

    1. profile image66
      logic,commonsenseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If they were offering assistance to those who could not afford prenatal and postnatal care with state funds, that's cool, but Viagra and abortions should be the bailiwick of individuals and not the federal government.

      1. habee profile image94
        habeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        They didn't provide Viagra or abortions.

  22. Reality Bytes profile image84
    Reality Bytesposted 6 years ago

    The American Eugenics Society was put of business and developed into Planned Parenthood.

    I must have read a great hub on the subject.

  23. gmwilliams profile image86
    gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

    Never! Never!  Planned Parenthood has done much to help women take control of their reproductive destinies.  No woman is ever free if she is subjected to unwanted and unplanned pregnancies.  Thanks to Planned Parenthood, the quality of motherhood and family life is much better.  Women can determine when to become pregnant and how many children she wants to have!  It cannot get any better than this!

  24. olodarkwriter profile image59
    olodarkwriterposted 5 years ago

    Unwanted and unplanned pregnancies. Duh. How many people today have sex without knowing that a baby could result? Let's call them what they are, "irresponsible pregnancies," "too lazy to take care of business pregnancies."

    PP is a blood sucking organization that feeds off of this irresponsibility. They must be doing an excellent job educating women about birth control - thats why we have had 50 million or so abortions since Roe v Wade, many of them performed by PP. PP did 332,000+ abortions in 2009, 27.5% of US abortions.

    Check out this article, which provides a link to the PP annual report.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/23/new- … e-in-2009/

    PP founder Margaret Sanger was a racist eugenics advocate Hitler must have loved. PP continues to destroy our African American population. Check out this website. http://www.klannedparenthood.com/Histor … tatistics/

 
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