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a Democrats perspective on the TEA party...

  1. SparklingJewel profile image76
    SparklingJewelposted 8 years ago

    sorry, actually the writer has a non-party affiliated position..
    (actually the whole title to the thread needs to change...how do I do that?)

        When government fears its own people

        Feb 6th, 2010 by Marti Oakley
        By: Marti Oakley (c) 2010 All Rights Reserved

        It seems patriot groups are springing up all over the place, each of them hoping to be the catalyst for change and all of them lamenting the loss of freedom and the downward spiral of our sovereign nation into one of a dictatorial police state.

        While the entire country reels from the onslaught of unconstitutional regulations and codes that are contrary to our Constitutional rights and liberties we are none-the-less regularly assaulted both in print and video by those who see these efforts as a threat to what I can only assume is their own perceived benefit from maintaining the status quo.

        While I do not agree with all that each of the patriot groups propose or advocate, I do, however, support their right to express their grievances; even if it does irritate the powers that be.  And, the only conclusion I can come to as to why these groups should present such a problem and elicit such a barrage of threatening and flaming commentary is because they are actually citing the problems and fighting back.

        Contrary to what the media and the government would have you believe, these patriot groups are not comprised of only right wing radical, religious extremists.  I have attended these meetings along with many of my Democrat friends, even though I do not subscribe to either or any political party.  In attendance were many others who had no political affiliations, and especially not with the Republicans.  These group efforts are not about which party you do or don’t belong to.  They are about the common cause of fighting back against government encroachment.  But, I guess that doesn’t make for titillating news coverage and pretty much negates the arguments that its all extremists of one stripe or another.

        I recently saw a comment on an article by John Wallace from Liberty News Online.  John had meticulously laid out the issues the Continental Congress had addressed in their recent meeting.  The commenter used words like “dangerous”, “radical”, “nutcase”, “extremists”….all the bait words that are supposed to make us sit down and shut up lest we be labeled the same way.  Oh! And I forgot…..This congress was really just a front for tax evasion all on behalf of one individual.

        The same commenter cited the 10th Amendment Center group, saying they didn’t know what they were talking about and were simply trying to nullify laws they didn’t like and that the 10th Amendment did NOT give states self determining sovereignty or the right to nullify unconstitutional federal mandates.  The hell it doesn’t.  Nullification by the states has most recently been enacted to refuse compliance to the infamous REAL ID act, and in 18 States, to reject marijuana laws mandated by the Fed under the “War on  Drugs” sink hole; a real money maker for the government.

        While these detractors spout their anti-American rhetoric about who is dangerous, radical, extremist, fringe or possible domestic terrorists, the fact remains that groups like Oathkeepers, the 10th Amendment Center, the Tea Party’s continue to grow.  The recent SCOTUS ruling that gave human rights to corporate entities was a boon to grassroots organizations fed up with the Fed.

        In the recent past, Homeland Security actually issued its list of “suspected domestic terrorists” which included returning vets from Iraq and Afghanistan, Ron Paul supporters, anyone who talked about the Constitution, anyone who opposed the wars, anyone who talked about the bill of rights, supports Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin or is opposed to abortion, and federal taxation and illegal immigration.  It must be hell to be so frightened of your own people as a result of all the harm you have caused them and having been caught in so many lies and deceptions that a list had to be prepared to determine who the government feared most.  MIACC Report.

        Here’s my take on who is dangerous, radical, extremist, nutballs, nutcases, and a general threat to the country:

            * The 18 or more spy agencies dedicated to surveillance and unwarranted threat to the nation in general.
            * The Fusion Centers, where federal and state corporate employees spend their time data mining any and all information on US citizens
            * The CDC that takes its orders from the World health Organization more commonly referred to as the World Homicide Organization.
            * Our militarized police and sheriff departments who have been outfitted like star wars storm troopers and who are armed with lethal weapons for no other reason than to use them on us.
            * The CIA, prohibited by law from operating within the geographical boundaries of the US but who it is known, has implanted itself into our state governments and who openly operate on our streets and in our communities.
            * The incorporated state agencies at every level in every state who no longer serve as public servants but who instead serve the corporations they are employed by.
            * And most importantly those broadcasters, TV personalities, political hacks, and other social misfits who routinely castigate, make fun of, belittle, degrade, and otherwise attempt to humiliate those who have forfeited their own safety and well being to stand up and say we’ve had enough; this is not who we are supposed to be.

        Those who throw around the Newt Gingrich theory of using negative terms to describe those you fear most, is not having the desired affect.  The discontent of the population, the knowing that our demise as a sovereign nation is at hand unless we are prepared to make a stand and fight back grows each and every day.  And with it, the numbers of individuals who have decided they would rather die fighting than to roll over and play dead, grows exponentially.So to all you Oathkeepers, Tea Party’ers, 10th’ers, or whoever else is out there trying to make a difference I say “go for it!”. You have nothing to fear but a government who is terrified of you and a bunch of insider wannabe’s who would sell their soul before they would ever stand up and be counted; cowards are like that.


    1. dahoglund profile image80
      dahoglundposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with much of what is in this article.

  2. Sab Oh profile image54
    Sab Ohposted 8 years ago

    I think it's interesting how scared of this movement those in the media and the far left are. Must mean something when they are unnerved enough to resort to name-calling and villifying what is basically their fellow citizens voicing their concerns and interests about their government. You would think that would be something most people wouldn't find sinister or 'dangerous.'

  3. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    Scared? Please TK, you know better than that.

    There is a new guidebook out for Teabaggers. In cartoon form.

    http://www.amazon.com/Taxpayers-Tea-Par … amp;sr=8-1

          "it's step-by-step guide in cartoon form to carry out our own American Revolution."

    That says it all in my opinion.

    1. SparklingJewel profile image76
      SparklingJewelposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      it is obvious that you have a limited perspective on the movement.

      have you been looking at the various groups and communicating with them on a daily basis...actually read their books and genuinely tried to compare thei r view of things with your own?

      I have. there are wackos and weirdos in every group of people regardless of sex, age, political persuasion, etc...

      what bothers me the most is the seeming lack of perception that some people have about how far out of alignment with the constitution America and Americans have gotten over the decades and last two centuries... AND how some don't seem to see a problem at all... hmm

    2. Sab Oh profile image54
      Sab Ohposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not sure what 'TK' is supposed to mean, but do you see how you can't even refer to the movement without using what you have to admit is a pretty childish name-calling technique? You have to admit that it must mean something when a reasonable adult can't resist that kind of childish insult. If you think about it, it must be something of a boost to them to know they are causing such a reaction.

  4. Dolores Monet profile image99
    Dolores Monetposted 8 years ago

    What makes me wonder about this whole group is their general distrust of and hate for the American government. I fear more from the corporate influences in our government and their power.

    1. Sab Oh profile image54
      Sab Ohposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think we need to be 'afraid' of either one, but if it came down to it an out of control government could do a lot more harm than an out of control corporation.

  5. Pandoras Box profile image66
    Pandoras Boxposted 8 years ago

    What about an out-of-control government backed by out-of-control corporations?

    And "Ron Paul followers"...LOL.