Wisconsin audit finds 2020 election was secure

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  1. IslandBites profile image89
    IslandBitesposted 15 months ago

    Sorry. lol

    “Despite concerns with statewide elections procedures, this audit showed us that the election was largely safe and secure,” tweeted Republican state Sen. Robert Cowles, the co-chair of the legislature’s Audit Committee, which ordered the bureau to run the evaluation.

    In total, auditors reviewed 60 tests of voting machines, with 59 tests proving accurate counts and the last producing insufficient data.

    The review also determined that only 24 people may have two active voter registrations and that just four possibly voted twice, rebutting a common conspiracy theory of thousands of voters casting multiple ballots.

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Hard to believe that only 24 people in the state of Wisconsin are registered to vote in 2 or more locations.  Wisconsin must have a truly spectacular registration system and police it to the tune of millions of dollars each year.

      (Are people required to notify Wisconsin when they move out of state?)

    2. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

      I feel these audits although repetitious, will lead to more moving on.   I would guess these adults were the only way to offer some finality to the election results.   At this point, it is clear only minor fraud is being discovered. from the seveal audits.  It would be acceptable to say minor fraud has been around for a very long time in our elections. And the audits have not come close to changing the election results.

      They might point to fraud problems that could be solved with new laws.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image83
        Ken Burgessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

        You must be joking.

        The is no more chance that those who felt the 2020 election was stolen will change their minds, than there was of those who felt the 2016 election was stolen by the Russians would change theirs even after Trump was exonerated.

        There is no amount of "audits" or "investigations" that will change people's perceptions... what difference is there between those doing the auditing and those doing the vote counting, what efforts are they making to verify each votes validity? etc. etc.

        People's minds are already made up, these "audits" will do nothing to change people's opinions now.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

          Common sense is on your side. I guess I should have said it might work to have perhaps some move on.  I hate to think or even admit to myself that the great divide is permanent,  due to American's being so dug in.

          You busted my balloon. So weary of all the turmoil.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image83
            Ken Burgessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

            Sorry for that, it was my initial reaction without much consideration.

            The divide of course is being fueled by our MSM sources and by the continued effort to silence opposing political viewpoints on various social medias.

            More than that... the divide is being fueled by continuous efforts to push past the boundaries of "normal" and force people to accept what they may feel is unacceptable... be it forcing people to be vaccinated or lose their job, or forcing people to accept that a man is a woman because 'they' say that is what they 'identify' as or lose their job.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image85
              Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

              Oh yes, they are pushing the envelope. However, in my view, the tide is turning.  Social media for one example has people very disillusioned with all (for a lack of a better word) crazy BS.   

              Americans are as a rule right the ship. Yes, some can buy into the crazy for a time being, but they are quick to distance when the going gets uncomfortable. And let's face it Biden is on a downward ramp, with an icy coating. In my book, the economy is his greatest threat, and it will take some time for us to see any recovery --- much too late for 2022. I mean people are up in arms over rising gas -- it may be hitting them that there is a cost to all the crazy. And I don't think they will be willing to be the ones to pay for all Bidens free free free...

              1. Ken Burgess profile image83
                Ken Burgessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

                This is only my opinion, but considering I invest in Real Estate, Stocks, as well as other interests and have access to a decent level of information, I have to tell you the economy can (and is likely to) get worse for the majority of Americans.

                Some of the very decisions the Biden Administration has taken, such as shutting down America's ability to be self sufficient in its Oil and Gas production, his Vaccine Mandate which has millions of Americans across the country losing their jobs, well educated people, career professionals that cannot be easily replaced... are going to impact the economy in a severely negative way, when the economy was already in crisis before such detrimental decisions were made.

                I don't think the American economy is going to be hit as hard as Venezuela's was a decade ago, but then again, with the decisions they are making and the direction this Democratic leadership is taking us, it is now entering the realm of possibility that there will be great hardship put upon the vast majority of Americans for years to come.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                  Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

                  I agree the economy is most just starting to show a bit of what Biden's big policy blunders will ultimately bring us. It's almost as if this administration is trying to destroy the country.  One thing is for sure,  with the failing economy,  I would hope most American's will be done to any further push for socialium.

                  1. Ken Burgess profile image83
                    Ken Burgessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

                    I think you will see the opposite.  When the economy worsens more people will become dependent on the Government for survival.

                    What will happen in America is a greater divide between those that merely exist/survive and those that are thriving. 

                    It will become harder to be "Middle Class" the days of being a hard worker who makes a good living working the factory or assembly line are gone, all work in the future is going to require clean backgrounds, field education and specialization, there will be very few "living wage" jobs for those people who are not "smart" and "licensed/degreed".

                    The Pandemic Shutdowns began this in earnest, many small businesses have failed, are continuing to fail due to continued restrictions and mandates in most States; robotics and software programs are replacing people at an accelerated rate elsewhere.

                    When you go shopping they have automated checkouts... before you know it they will have trucks making deliveries with AI driving, technology is making many jobs obsolete in warehouses, factories, etc.

                    The people who do not see this coming and are not preparing for it, either through education (in a STEM field) creating a business or buying up Assets (or all 3) are going to be the ones with no job, no future, and totally dependent on their government to survive.

                  2. Valeant profile image86
                    Valeantposted 15 months agoin reply to this

                    That dropping unemployment rate and super high stock market are blunders?  Weird. 

                    Inflation was expected with the lost year of profits, not to mention pumping 30% of all US currency into the economy in the year 2020.  The result is that people have a lot of money saved and so little product available that leads to the rise in prices.

                    Only in your own mind is the economy failing.  And you clearly do not understand what socialism is.

        2. Valeant profile image86
          Valeantposted 15 months agoin reply to this

          Well, the difference is that multiple intelligence services and Congress all said that Russia did interfere in the election - that the timely release of Clinton e-mails right after the Trump Access Hollywood groping admission did dampen the effect of those revelations - and that multiple Russians were indicted for their crimes pertaining to that interference.  So why would anyone change their minds about the Russians helping to steal the elections when their interference was proven.

          Let us know when US Intelligence, the courts, elections officials, the DOJ...dang, anyone other than Trump...presents any credible evidence to back a further audit.

  2. Live to Learn profile image59
    Live to Learnposted 15 months ago

    No less than half the country does not want Biden’s agenda pushed forward. The failure of our government to ensure bipartisan approval of measures that affect all of us is sad. Biden did not have a mandate when he entered office. Many voted against trump, not for Biden. The far left needs to understand the term ‘far left’ is just that. Far from the center and where the majority of voters stand.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Biden certainly pulled a fast one. He was dishonest about his agenda.

  3. Readmikenow profile image95
    Readmikenowposted 15 months ago

    A Wisconsin sheriff who has charged that state officials – on the Wisconsin Election Commission – not only broke the state's election law but "shattered" it during last year's presidential race, now has referred recommendations for criminal charges against five of the six commission members.

    Already retired Wisconsin Supreme Court justice, Michael Gableman, reviewing the situation, said he'd uncovered evidence of those changes in election procedures, which were not allowed to be made.

    And the state Supreme Court has ruled that "election officials wrongly allowed tens of thousands of Wisconsin voters to skip voter ID requirements and file absentee ballots by declaring their concerns about COVID made them 'indefinitely confined,'" Just the News reported.

    Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., formerly headed the Senate Homeland Security Committee, which oversees elections, and said Schmaling's revelations might "only be the tip of the iceberg of fraud in the 2020 election."

    https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/sheriff-ref … s-charges/

    1. Valeant profile image86
      Valeantposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Well, since 'Just the News' reported it, it must be true and you should repost it here.

      Now here is the official site of the Milwaukee's government take:
      Under Wisconsin law, voters do not need a reason or excuse, such as being out of town on Election Day, to vote absentee.  Any voter who prefers to vote by absentee ballot may request one.

      https://city.milwaukee.gov/election/Vot … nteeBallot

      1. Readmikenow profile image95
        Readmikenowposted 15 months agoin reply to this

        From your article

        "Photo ID Required
        Unless you are a military voter, permanently overseas, or are indefinitely confined, you must provide the Election Commission with a copy of your photo ID to keep on file.  If you are not sure if you have an ID on file already, feel free to contact us.  The address on the ID does not need to be current.  For a list of acceptable photo IDs, visit BringIt Wisconsin.

        Voters who are indefinitely confined (meaning they have difficulty getting to the polls due to age, illness, infirmity, or disability) may request a ballot be sent to them for every election by checking the box on the application.  Indefinitely confined voters are not required to provide photo ID. "

        From MY article

        "And the state Supreme Court has ruled that "election officials wrongly allowed tens of thousands of Wisconsin voters to skip voter ID requirements and file absentee ballots by declaring their concerns about COVID made them 'indefinitely confined,"

        And from the 2020 election audit performed in Wisconsin.

        "So these 29 municipalities had 23.93% of all the 1.96 million absentee ballots cast in the November 2020 election.

        The Audit Bureau physically reviewed 14,710 absentee ballot applications or 3.13% of absentee ballots in the 29 municipalities.

        Problems discovered by the Audit Bureau with the 14,710 absentee ballots included: only a partial witness address, no witness address, no witness signature, or no voter signature.

        Of the 14,710 absentee applications the LAB physically reviewed, 1,022 had only a partial witness address or 6.95% and not the full witness address which is clearly required by law.

        Section 6.84 (2), Wis. Stats., indicates that notwithstanding s. 5.01 (1), Wis. Stats., the statutory provisions that require certificates to have witness addresses are mandatory, and the ballots accompanying certificates that are missing this information shall not be counted. Section 6.84 (2), Wis. Stats., similarly indicates that ballots accompanying certificates without voter or witness signatures shall not be counted during a recount."

        https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/1 … it-report/

        1. Valeant profile image86
          Valeantposted 15 months agoin reply to this

          Immediately after the election, the State Supreme Court sided with the voters on the issue of absentee voting in these instances you claim as fraud.

          https://apnews.com/article/wisonsin-sup … 1c4b041964

          The Issues with the absentee ballots had been using guidance since 2016.

          The commission’s public information officer, Reid Magney, said this guidance has been in place since October 2016 and was brought forward that year by Republicans on the commission. Indeed, an Oct. 18, 2016, memo states that clerks are required to “take corrective actions in an attempt to remedy a witness address error.”

          “The guidance has been in effect for 11 statewide elections, including the 2016 presidential and presidential recount, and no one has objected to it until now,” he said.

          According to the commission, clerks can "reasonably discern" a missing witness address by using voter registration records or any personal knowledge they have about the person's address. They’re required only to contact the voter before correcting the envelope if they can’t find the address using outside sources.

          In the State Supreme Court ruling:  “Wisconsin voters complied with the election rulebook,” Dallet and Karofksy said. “No penalties were committed and the final score was the result of a free and fair election.”

          And I'd rather read the actual report than someone's interpretation of it:
          https://legis.wisconsin.gov/lab/media/3 … 19full.pdf

          1. Readmikenow profile image95
            Readmikenowposted 15 months agoin reply to this

            The ruling was that three of the lawsuits concerning the fraud allegation was filed too late.  They weren't wrong, they were not filed within the statutory time limits. 

            "In the 4-3 ruling, the court’s three liberal justices were joined by conservative swing Justice Brian Hagedorn who said three of Trump’s four claims were filed too late and the other was without merit. The ruling ends Trump’s legal challenges in state court."


            You are right.  And page 43 confirms what I previously posted, because it is taken from this report. 

            Our review of the 14,710 certificates found that:  1,022 certificates (6.9 percent) in 28 municipalities had partial witness addresses because they did not have one or more components of a witness address, such as a street name, municipality, state, and zip code, including 799 certificates (5.4 percent) that did not have a zip code and 364 certificates (2.5 percent) that did not have a state; We physically reviewed 14,710 certificates in 29 municipalities. Our review found that some certificates had incomplete witness addresses or did not have some statutorily required information.

            ABSENTEE BALLOTS ❰ 43  15 certificates (0.1 percent) in 10 municipalities did not have a witness address in its entirety;  8 certificates (less than 0.1 percent) in 7 municipalities did not have a witness signature; and  3 certificates (less than 0.1 percent) in 2 municipalities did not have a voter’s signature. Our review of the 14,710 certificates found evidence that municipal clerks had corrected witness addresses on 66 certificates (0.4 percent). This evidence included clerk initials or pen marks in the ink colors that clerks had indicated were used to make corrections. As noted, WEC’s written guidance in October 2016 indicated that clerks must include their initials next to any corrections to witness addresses. On Election Day, poll workers remove the returned ballots from certificates, which are retained separately from the ballots. As a result, almost all certificates we reviewed no longer contained ballots. However, we found 17 certificates in 3 of the 29 municipalities contained absentee ballots. Clerks in these three municipalities indicated that the corresponding ballots were likely not counted on Election Day because of oversights. Most of these 17 certificates were not in the 14,710 certificates in our sample. Statutes require municipal clerks to write their initials on certificates in certain situations, including when individuals request absentee ballots in person at clerk offices."

            So, now it goes to whether the judgment of the clerks was or was not correct.

      2. IslandBites profile image89
        IslandBitesposted 15 months agoin reply to this

        Michael Gableman, the former judge leading the review, admitted days later that he does not have “a comprehensive understanding or even any understanding of how elections work.”

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … an-errors/

 
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