What’s going on with Georgia’s Grand Jury investigation about Trump?

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   peoplepower73posted 2 years ago

   The smoking gun in Trump's election fraud scheme is the phone call he made to Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger: 
   
   “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state,” Trump told Raffensperger. Claiming that “totally illegal” fraud occurred, Trump told Raffensperger, “You can’t let that happen, that’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.”
   
   Tuesday, a special grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia, subpoenaed members of Trump’s inner circle, including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Rudy Giuliani.
   
   Here is the current status of this Grand Jury investigation:
   
   https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … li=BBnb7Kz
   
   If you are interested, here is the full transcript and recorded audio of that conversation.

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      Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Question is Mike, will they get him, this time?

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         peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Cred:  The evidence is irrefutable. It needs no witnesses and no cross-examination. I think in the final analysis, it will be up to Merrick Garland, The Attorney General as to what his fate will be.
         
         Those who have been subpoenaed will try to fink out of it is some way.  They act like they are the elite and above the law.  They will not allow themselves to held accountable.  But they wanted pardons from Trump.  So in that sense, they have admitted guilt.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It will be interesting to follow, but with so much going on in the country, it will be on my back burner. We are in the middle of the Congressional investigation.  Hopefully, it's covered well by the media.

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         peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Sharlee:  Thanks for dropping by.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I will keep an eye on this investigation, and hopefully, be back to discuss the investigation.

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               peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Lawyers for Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Wednesday they'll challenge a subpoena demanding that he testify before a special grand jury in Georgia hearing evidence in a probe of possible 2020 election interference by former President Donald Trump and others.
               
               https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch … 3585349589

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                  Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  I think if they snag him, he will take the 5th.  And this will speak loud in my view...

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                     peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Here is the latest:
                     
                     Exclusive: Fulton County DA sends 'target' letters to Trump allies in Georgia investigation
                     
                     https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … li=BBnb7Kz

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   IslandBitesposted 2 years ago

   A judge in New York has ordered Rudy Giuliani to appear next month before a special grand jury in Atlanta that’s investigating whether former President Donald Trump and others illegally tried to interfere in the 2020 general election in Georgia.
   
   Earlier this month, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis filed petitions to compel seven Trump associates, including Giuliani and U.S. Sen Lindsey Graham, to testify before the special grand jury.
   
   Because they don’t live in Georgia, she had to use a process that involves getting a judge in the state where they live to order them to appear.
   
   Giuliani had been summoned to appear in court in New York on July 13 to present any reasons why a subpoena should not be issued for him to testify in Atlanta, but he failed to show up for the hearing, Farber wrote in his order.

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      peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not surprised about Giuliani.  Trump and his people are so predictable. They tout themselves as the law and order people, but they truly have contempt for law and order.

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         wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Isn't that the way of most of the rich and powerful?  Laws are for everyone else, not for me.  But if they DO come for me I have high priced lawyers that will get me off if my political power doesn't do it.

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            peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Wilderness:  Maybe it is a form of survival of the fittest.  If more money makes you more fit, then you will survive better than those without the money. But that still doesn't make it morally right.

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               wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               While I would agree with you, I also recognize that there is no punishment for what they are doing even though 350 million people could certainly provide for that punishment.
               
               I guess the point is who makes the moral structure of the country?  Do the rich and powerful have a say in it?  It appears that they do, as no one else cares about the immorality of those actions, or at least those like you and I don't care enough to DO something about it.

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                  peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  The latest on the DA's investigation.
                  
                  In Georgia, Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis is forging ahead with a wide-ranging investigation of Trump administration efforts to overturn the 2020 vote in her state. (Fulton County is the most populous county in Georgia and includes Atlanta, the state capital.)
                  
                  It’s possible the Georgia case will come to fruition before its federal counterpart. Ms. Willis has been moving aggressively. She has experience using Georgia’s relatively expansive RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) statute in complex cases. Her evidence includes a taped phone call between Mr. Trump and Georgia’s chief election official in which the former asked the latter to “find” an additional 11,870 votes in his favor, an increase that would have flipped the state electoral result.
                  
                  Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has already testified. Ms. Willis has subpoenaed some of Mr. Trump’s closest allies, including Rudy Giuliani and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
                  
                  Her efforts dialed up this summer as she convened a special grand jury and, just in the last month, issued target letters informing recipients of possible charges to a wide range of people who may have been cogs in a wider conspiracy. They include everyone from the state GOP chair to a local car salesman – people who participated in the formation of Georgia’s alternate slate of fake presidential “electors.”
                  
                  Ms. Willis is “casting a wider net,” says Anthony Michael Kreis, a constitutional law professor at Georgia State University in Atlanta.
                  
                  But there may be risks to such an approach. One judge has already reprimanded Ms. Willis for attending a Democratic fundraiser for a race involving one of the recipients of her target letters.
                  
                  Professor Kreis says that as a general matter he is concerned about over-prosecution and stretching past the limits of the law.
                  
                  But more often than not in U.S. history, those who try to usurp elections have gotten away with it – particularly post-Reconstruction era Southern elections. Given that context, a Georgia case over the 2020 election might be fitting, he says.
                  
                  “If this is the case that the buck stops in Fulton County, there’s something that’s historical about that in a good way, in the sense that there will be justice for trying to undo a legitimate election,” says Professor Kreis.

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                     peoplepower73posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Isn't it interesting that Giuliani recently had two stents implanted in his body and now has the excuse that he cant' meet before the Grand Jury for medical reasons..  He is as slick as his boss.
                     
                     https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … li=BBnb7Kz

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