Canada's Girl Guides Change Offensive Name.

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   GA Andersonposted 2 years ago

   A Morning News chuckle. After a British advertising example of a point, this one fell in my lap.
   
   The USA has the offensive Redskins and Braves and Chiefs and Rebels, and the Canadians have the offensive Brownies. As in 6-year-old Girl Scout Brownies. (Canada calls them Girl Guides Brownies)
   
   The Girl Guides of Canada has renamed the "Brownies" branch - who are now called the "Embers" - after the old name was deemed too racially divisive.
   
   GA

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      DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Embers? That sounds racist, wonder how long that name will last. They need to get rid of that "girl" too!!

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         Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Lol

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   abwilliamsposted 2 years ago

   Exactly, also...embers implies hot, what are they trying to say, that six year old girls are hot?!?This is sick stuff
   So this is how it works!?

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   wildernessposted 2 years ago

   Yes, "Brownies" is SO offensive!  I don't know about anyone else but when that word comes up I think of the baked confection and only secondary are the cute little girls selling me more cookies than I can eat.
   
   That it was racial never entered my mind.  I have to wonder just how racist one must be to decide that "brownie" is a racist term.

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   Stephen Tomkinsonposted 2 years ago

   Lord Baden Powell's sister suggested "Brownies" because they were helpful fairies in a tale that she had enjoyed as a girl. As far as I know, there was no racial connotation at all.
   In my restaurant, my wife makes brownies and whities (brownies with white chocolate). So far, we've had no trouble with the woke brigade.
   If anyone would like the recipe for our popular whities, I'll be happy to send it on - but you may have to change the name.

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      GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Whities? Damn, that sounds more racist than brownies. You better change the name before you get picketed.
      
      GA

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      Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Can't go wrong with whites, only whites can be racist.

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         wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Ah, but do the whitey brownies think they are better than the brownie brownies?  That would be racist, wouldn't it?

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            Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Let hope the media doesn't get that thought into their head.
            
            When we mix all the color together, we get brown,  is my rebuttal

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   Credence2posted 2 years ago

   Ok, enough is enough, these petty divergences take away from the significance of far more weightier matters in our understanding and discourse with one another.
   
   I have been eating "brownies" for too long to allow the right to accuse the left of making "hay" over nothing....

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      GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It is the Right that is making hay and the Left that provided it. Do you really think this is just a silly thing? Do you not think, in the context of this issue, that the Left has gone a bit overboard?
      
      As for being a petty divergence, that's malarky. It is exactly what the 'Righties" said would happen. This silly example is not a petty divergence, it is the intended path. It is the type of "Righties' claim that the Left pooh-poohed as a ridiculous conservative over-reaction when they complained about the first steps of the PC and Woke movements.
      
      Of course, it's a rhetorical question, but, who's looking ridiculous now?
      
      You are right that enough is enough, you just got the wrong 'enough.'
      
      GA

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         Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         The Girl Guides of Canada seem ok with the change, no harm or not foul. It is just my opinion that the title in itself is not offensive, and has no racial connotations as a person of color would understand it, such as myself.
         
         It is baiting the hook to distract the meaning of woke and silencing non congruent voices from the beliefs of the rightwing community.
         
         The problem with what conservatives call woke go beyond what I consider non offensive matters. It cuts into explanations as to accurate history and shrouding the more unpleasant aspects of America's past in favor of the whitewash or the outright lie.....

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            GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Oops. I shouldn't have used "woke", it opened the door for you to bring out the historical unpleasantness of America. I was simply talking about the Girl Guides thing and my perception of its silliness. "Brownies" is racist and offensive." Sheesh.
            
            It was your comment that opened the door to tag that silliness to the Left's agenda. One the Left claims they don't have, but now, with stories like this Brownies example, are having to defend, lest we have more unpleasantness.
            
            While Canada's Girl Guides choice may be at the bottom of the totem pole in importance or effect—a trivial thing with no inferences, it is significant in that it proves the long-denied totem pole is there. The 'Righties' don't look so crazy now. From something big, like gay marriage to something ridiculous, like the 'national bathroom debate, to the silly, like this 'Brownies' example, the trails all lead to you guys.
            
            GA

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               Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Well, true, GA, this concern was silly. The title "brownies" has been around since 1914 and can't be associated with any deliberate bias.
               
               However, if we go to the other extreme, I see Rightwingers censoring books, muzzling public schools teachers and college professors that do not adhere to rightwing propaganda as part of their curriculum. This is De Santis here in Florida and that is an ominous sign of things to come unless this group is brought to heel and soon. That goes a little farther than merely ridiculous..... one extreme is infinitely more dangerous than the other.
               
               Believe me, they are still quite "crazy" enough.

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                  DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  "brought to heel and soon. That goes a little farther than merely ridiculous..... one extreme is infinitely more dangerous than the other."
                  
                  Very good description if it is about the woke crowd and the stupidity they are enforcing. They are dangerous and should be brought to heel soon.

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                     Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     "Woke" is a newly invented word in the Rightwinger lexicon.
                     
                     The only thing worse than stupidity is deliberate malevolence, in my opinion.....

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                        DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        This is nothing like the 90s and Bill Clinton, who was against crime and actually ran as a law and order president. Back then the Democratic party was not a "woke" party. It is stupid and evil, so the woke crowd seems to have both of your bases covered there.

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                           Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           Maybe it is easier to define "anti-woke". 
                           
                           Among American conservatives, woke has come to be used primarily as an insult.[4][28][41] Members of the Republican Party have been increasingly using the term to criticize members of the Democratic Party, while more centrist Democrats use it against more left-leaning members of their own party; such critics accuse those on their left of using cancel culture to damage the employment prospects of those who are not considered sufficiently woke. Perry Bacon Jr. suggests that this "anti-woke posture" is connected to a long-standing promotion of backlash politics by the Republican Party, wherein it promotes white and conservative fear in response to activism by African Americans as well as changing cultural norms.[28][43][44] Such critics often believe that movements such as Black Lives Matter exaggerate the extent of social problems.[4
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                           African Americans have always been "activist" to a varying extent based on sheer necessity, well before Bill Clinton. The Right have been resistant from the beginning, so who really thinks that I am concerned about their insecurities and thus the concept of woke in their minds?
                           
                           So, Doc, I don't want to make a case about Girl Scout cookies, in relation to the bigger picture.......

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                  GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm sticking to the point Cred, the source for the silly thought that "Brownies" is racist and offensive. Your 'what abouts'; Desantis, book bannings, etc. don't have any bearing beyond pointing to other craziness.
                  
                  'Yeah buts . . . ' and 'what abouts. . . " aren't defenses, they're excuses.
                  
                  Instead of a 'yeah but . . .', I will give you a 'but yeah . . . '  You guys own this one, but yeah, some Righties are crazy extremists."
                  
                  GA

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                     Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     That's  ok, I will stick with your point in this instance. There is plenty of "craziness" going around, it ultimately comes down to the extent and magnitude.

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                  wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  LOL  As I look at censorship everywhere, I find that the right, with all it's book burnings pales beside the left with it's virtual ban on anything hinting of conservatism.  Whether TV shows, university speakers or other, the left is hardly left out of the censorship race.
                  
                  (Remember that poor college student group that had to have special counselors and "safe spaces" to protect them from sidewalk chalk used to scrawl pro Trump messages on campus sidewalks?)

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