A Conversation About White Christian Nationalism

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   Valeantposted 8 months ago

   A top political advisor having a conversation about the mythos of white christian nationalism on the Meidas Touch Network.  When they got to the part about the fear state, it reminded me of many in these forums.  Can anyone pick out the few that fit the mold of what they guys are talking about?
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7xAuquovgs

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      Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

      "A top political advisor having a conversation about the mythos of white christian nationalism on the Meidas Touch Network.  When they got to the part about the fear state, it reminded me of many in these forums.  Can anyone pick out the few that fit the mold of what they guys are talking about?"
      
      I'm uncertain about the purpose behind the topic of this discussion. It seems like you might be encouraging users to identify and criticize others based on their views. The context suggests an inclination towards singling out individuals with specific perspectives. The video appears to be a politically biased attack aimed at MAGA and conservative individuals. Your initial comment seems provocative as if you're prompting others to point fingers at fellow users in a negative manner.

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         Valeantposted 8 months agoin reply to this

         Did you watch the video or just scan the title?  Listen to the video then come back to me.  And the final question asked in the OP can be answered like, 'yeah, I can see it.'

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            Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

            I viewed the video and prefer not to provide a detailed critique. However, it's evident that biases are present among the interviewer and his guest. The community here holds diverse political perspectives. Is it necessary to single out individuals based on their views and ideologies? Such actions seem juvenile and lack relevance, serving only to insult without contributing meaningfully to the discussion.
            
            Hey, I believe we all have things we might not appreciate about each other. However, since this forum encourages a back-and-forth conversation, if we're all upset with each other, I'm not sure if open dialogue will be feasible.
            
            Hopefully, more will watch the video, and add a thought or two on this subject. Hey, maybe a few will wind up a finger and point it - who knows...
            
            (I had no problem with the video, or the subject of the video, just a bit of a problem with your question -- "Can anyone pick out the few that fit the mold of what they guys are talking about?")
            
            However, you got my attention.

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               Valeantposted 8 months agoin reply to this

               The themes of the video kind of make that point, that open dialogue really isn't an option with a side that sees things as all or nothing.  A side that believes that the ends justify the means, even when those means equate to violating the law, setting aside the Constitution, or threatening civil war/succession if they don't get their way.  Comments we've seen a few times in the last few days.
               
               If anything, this was part of the point, to help those that need it realize that they are going down a destructive path by following MAGA.

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                  wildernessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  "A side that believes that the ends justify the means, even when those means equate to violating the law, setting aside the Constitution, or threatening civil war/succession if they don't get their way."
                  
                  Are you referring to the mobs that threatened SCOTUS members and rioted outside their homes?  That destroyed property and trespassed on private property to demand they get their way?  Or those that rioted for months in large cities, burning and destroying government property?

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                     Valeantposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                     If a post starts out with such a blatant lie about 'riots' outside the homes of Supreme Court justices, it's not really worth getting into a discussion about.  Nor is the false equivalency of equating social justice to a political party.

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      Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

      I watched it and it seemed spot on to me. Here is another article to augment it.
      
      https://www.salon.com/2024/01/02/meet-t … ian-right/

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         Valeantposted 8 months agoin reply to this

         Seems right along the same themes, for sure.

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            Castlepalomaposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            Interesting taking about fitting into a mold. Wail I've spent a whole lifetime breaking molds being a creative entrepreneur for 50 years.  Rather make money with a handful of love ones with unique cooperation.  Rather than in constant conflicting competitions with everyone.  Sometimes in the middle ground gets the crossfires, still better.
            
            When molds get moldy or unethical it time to change up. Like two right and left wings of the same bald eagle both predator and scavenger. Or why would a tree fight with its branches?  The religious and political molds feels unnatural and very limited to me. Not in my lifetime had such experiences with divides and conflicts of onesided on both sides of narratives. Even my daughter tried putting me in a mold of a white privileged , racist, sexist and age of greed. Even though she is half white and a professional artist like me. When there is no real personality evidences, other than I'm a white, male, straight, boomer and financial is only 1/5 of the equation in my life. That lack of respect, yet it is changing up for the better with her  lately.
            
            There is a pattern of great white supremacist from Europe and America in the last few centuries with top 5 countries by far with the worlds most war battles in human history.  My feeling is one of the last molds to be broken is the war in Gaza breaking every ethical rule of humanity. With 97% white supremacist zionist stronghold with the colonialism of Palestinians. Another mold being broken by again the collective consciousness of people. People are so sick and tired of 73 years of this great abuse. Which really changes human history more than anything.  Its certainly not religion or politics centroism, making a kinder and friendlier world. . At one time it probably did changed many things positive. Or we might have sex with turtles and camels in the deserts. Yet absolute power always corrupts and again abuse will change up that mold once again. My faith is always with the people, not with centro banks, major religious and statism, who can let you down.  If love, work and peace is not the solution in every which way.

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