Does he really have to shoot somebody?

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 15 months ago

   Trump sabotages a bipartisan border deal so he can campaign on it. He so badly defames a woman he was convicted of sexually assaulting that he has to pay her $83 million in damages. Does he really have to shoot somebody for MAGAs to see what he actually is?

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      wildernessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      What was the bipartisan border "deal" that he sabotaged?  To bring in the rest of the world's poor for us to take care of?
      
      I haven't seen it, but all I've heard is that it is a quicker, easier way to citizenship; a quicker, easier way for us to support the world's poor.

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         Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

         I'm having difficulty researching the Senate Border proposal, but based on what I've seen in the media, it appears to be an overtly political move. The narrative seems to be leaning towards creating a more appealing invitation for people to come across the border. It's challenging to see it as anything other than a well-lit political ploy. How can one interpret it differently?

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            wildernessposted 15 months agoin reply to this

            What little I have found out about it is along these lines as well.
            
            Which means Trump is right; we don't need laws that simply open the country to more immigrants.  We can't support what we have - watched a news segment on Denver crying the blues that they cannot support even the few thousand that they have.

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               Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

               My gut instinct agrees   --- LOL

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            Willowarborposted 15 months agoin reply to this

            James Lankford, the lead GOP negotiator in the border talks, has repeatedly urged lawmakers to refrain from passing final judgment on the bill until they receive legislative text and said some of the reports of its contents in conservative media are not accurate depictions of the bill.
            
            So folks would rather listen to the Fox spin than the Republican Senators who have commented? Yep seems about right.

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               Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

               I am just interested in learning a bit more about the proposal. I did share it in my view, is mainly political, and is being used by both sides at this point to bang each other over the head. Not sure who will be knocked out cold. Willow, I have just been around too long to buy into these kinds of ploys.
               
               All seem very much normal with this back and forth.  I think, and again just think --- the Republicans will glean more traction with this one. Biden, waired toooooo long. Played this all very badly.

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                  Willowarborposted 15 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't see the ploy aspect of it. I do see much commentary from Republican Senators, highly regarded members who very much appear to want to get a deal. 
                  
                  Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., urged his colleagues not to make it all about politics at the behest of another candidate.
                  
                  “I didn’t come here to have the president as a boss or a candidate as a boss. I came here to pass good, solid policy," Tillis said. “It is immoral for me to think you looked the other way because you think this is the linchpin for President Trump to win.”
                  
                  How many of these folks will lose their seats when constituents realize their Rep worked against their interests?  Border issues are high priority and a lot of these districts. I don't know how these lawmakers will go back home and explain their failure. 
                  
                  In terms of Biden waiting too long, he had the framework for a bill on day one.  That should have been the basis to start negotiations right then.  So who waited too long? Whose failure is that? The House didn't do the work. 
                  
                  In my view, it has become very clear MAGA it's not interested in solving any sort of problem.

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                     Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

                     "I didn’t come here to have the president as a boss or a candidate as a boss. I came here to pass good, solid policy," Tillis said. “It is immoral for me to think you looked the other way because you think this is the linchpin for President Trump to win.”
                     
                     I appreciate his statement and his transparency. It will yet to be seen how his constants feel about his honesty.
                     
                     I have read, and actually, yesterday reread Biden's Jan 2021 proposal --- I found it was a very clear dog whistle or one might call it an invitation that started this huge following of asylum seekers.  Please review the proposal.
                     https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … on-system/
                     
                     Not all bad, but, pretty bad... Just my view

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                        Willowarborposted 15 months agoin reply to this

                        Biden could have thrown anything out there in terms of a framework for immigration reform. I've read his initial proposal.  To me, it was an invitation for Congress to get to work.   It was simply a place to begin. Just as they are doing right now. Each side hashing out what they can and can't accept.  I would never expect for either party to pass any sort of legislation that is 100% on only their term  especially with todays narrow margins. Seems like the only group that wants exactly what they want and everyone else be damned is maga. I think that's pretty clear for all to see.
                        They sat on their hands for 3 years. The president can't do the job of the Congress for them.

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                           Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

                           It's perplexing to see the sudden surge of concern at this late stage. I wholeheartedly agree that immigration has been wielded as a political weapon by both sides for well over a decade. From Obama to Trump and now Biden, it's been a consistent stick used to score points. Interestingly, despite both parties having the majority in Congress over the past decade, neither took decisive action.
                           
                           What sets the current situation apart is the unprecedented influx of migrants into America, creating a new precedent. This amplifies the political stick, making it more potent and lethal. It's evident that the Republicans will seize on this opportunity, given the sheer numbers involved. This, unfortunately, seems to be just another chapter in the ongoing saga of politics as usual.
                           
                           Considering the escalating issues across the nation, it's apparent to me that Republicans will likely exploit immigration challenges as a key campaign focus. It almost feels like a political windfall for them. I doubt they'll be inclined to cooperate and relinquish this potent tool, potentially jeopardizing a Democratic victory in 2024.
                           
                           I think we are on the same side. However, Washington politics are not on our side.  Both sides are at fault and have been for a very long time regarding this issue. I see no heroes at this point.

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      Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

      In my view, It's important to approach political discussions with a fair and balanced perspective.
      
      Regarding the bipartisan border deal, critics argue that political maneuvering and strategy are not at all unique to any one individual or party. It's not uncommon for politicians to leverage issues for electoral gain, and this behavior can be observed across the political spectrum. I mean, our border problem has become increasingly worse over 3.5 years, and one could say, why now, concerning being a political ploy. So, is it fair to blame Republicans at this late date?
      
      When it comes to legal matters, it's important to clarify that there have been various legal battles involving Trump, and the specifics of each case can be complex. Legal outcomes should be determined by the courts based on evidence and due process. I think our legal system has thus far addressed the many accusations that have been levied against Trump.
      
      I think, In any discussion, it's valuable to focus on policy decisions, actions, and their consequences rather than engaging in personal attacks. Encouraging an open and respectful dialogue allows for a more nuanced understanding of political figures and their impact on the country.

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   IslandBitesposted 15 months ago

   “To those who think that if President Trump wins, which I hope he does, that we can get a better deal — you won’t,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters Wednesday.

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      Sharlee01posted 15 months agoin reply to this

      I'm interested in exploring the potential for a shift in control of the Senate in 2024. There seems to be speculation among some observers regarding this possibility. Just sharing a thought.

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