I had to post this since it appeared in a reputable left-wing source:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-bide … 6a7a2a88f2
This is serious stuff and I don't care how long ago the accusation happened. It will be worth every Democrat's time to follow this issue and then decide if they can support Biden. I was ready to support him, but I don't know if I can choose between two sexual predators.
For obvious reasons, particularly since they are unlikely to run such a story for purely political reasons. I would happily post something from the Wall St. Journal or similar. Most right-wing links provided on this site as source material are junk with little to zero journalistic standards.
Yes, of course.
Well my reply is simply this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBwu5JL6Hg
I recommend turning the volume off and watching the headlines, they speak for themselves.
I'm sure. You noticed I said it was left-wing?
I don't know when those quotes were made by Ariana Huffington, but she sold that thing for a billion dollars (or whatever), so now it's the same corporate stuff as the other "news" sites.
My point was that as a social liberal, I can't ignore that story.
I also hope you're happy that I posted that story and didn't leave it for one of you right-wingers to do it, knowing that all the Lefties would dismiss it. So notice - I posted an anti-Biden, anti-Democratic Party, anti-left wing story. I posted something somebody of my ilk wouldn't/shouldn't normally post. Not sure when I've seen a right-winger do the same.
And I don't watch YouTube for any of my news. So much doctored garbage that can be posted by and altered by anyone. Headlines are headlines, meant to get readers to read.
Everybody knew from the outset that, in my opinion, Biden was not our best choice and how fellow Democrats could not see what was quite clear to me, is beyond my understanding.
1. If I did not know better I would believe that this outcome was pre planned and orchestrated by "the other side". In this tweedledum/ tweedledee scenario, Trump is almost guranteed to be reelected. He is not worried about his competitor in that sense. His real concern is the coronavirus and his losing only because of the possibility of a dismal economy next November.
In our quest for "moderation", with Joe Biden we have removed what it was that distinguished our candidates from Donald Trump. So if you want your authentic corporate lackey, you had just as well stay with the real thing, Trump?
I have to also look at what appeared to be the badgering of Anita Hill on his part during the Clearance Thomas hearings in 1991. Which misogynist do you prefer? With Biden trying to make amends with Hill 30 years after the event for obvious reasons, his sincerity tends to ring hollow.
He brings a lot of baggage of his own that we don't need and that Donald Trump and his scurvy crew will quickly exploit during this campaign.
He has been found wanting regarding his reception toward issues of concern to progressives in other words, A Corporate Democrat.
Regardless of all this, I have no choice but to support Biden, like I had to support Ms. Clinton, who was not my preferred candidate but was the lesser of two evils.
I adhere to the philosophy of the Democratic Party and certainly not that of the Republicans. And while Joe Biden falls short in my opinion regarding the direction the party needs to move in, he would be a steady if immobilized hand. I would have preferred someone more activist in outlook. At worse, I would be standing still. But that is better that being associated with Republicans with whom I have odds with regarding virtually everything.
But as part of the Democratic process, I have to accept the verdict, although I disapprove.
Once again, I am being put in a situation where I have to vote against a candidate rather than voting for one. And that is not the way we win elections.
Yang, Gabbard, and Warren (though she has proven false and turned from what she said she believed in, in my book) were viable candidates I would have considered.
I do feel similar, though not as strongly as you do Credence. I wanted a real alternative to consider. I wanted a person who was going to attempt to make changes to benefit Americans.
I wanted someone who could stand in front of America and articulate a strong message, a different road to travel, that was meant to help Americans.
Instead we got the most corrupt crony of the bunch, who happens to potentially be a pedophile, and is certainly slipping into senility as the alternative to Trump.
It sickens me that the Democratic Party has become so obviously corrupt, such lackeys to International Corporations and Foreign Powers that they can silence all voices within the Party worth listening to... and present this wretched letch as the alternative to Trump.
Ken , thanks
I recognize that you and I are going to see all this somewhat differently.
I wanted that REAL alternative too, but the people would not have it and are not ready for bold initiatives. As I say, Trump IS America and America IS Trump.
But, the Republicans have always been a known quantity for me and I reflexibly distrust them over all else.
Credence,
I'm in this same boat. I don't even want to vote, but Biden's policies align more closely with my own, so I guess that's how I have to vote.
Maybe he picks Gabbard or Warren as his running mate and I can feel a little better about things.
What I really would like to see from the Dems is somebody completely, socially liberal while expressing actual frustration at how the government spends and wastes our money with a plan to trim government while making it work better.
"What I really would like to see from the Dems is somebody completely, socially liberal while expressing actual frustration at how the government spends and wastes our money with a plan to trim government while making it work better."
Not possible (if they are honest). As the Democratic policy is bigger and bigger government, responsible for more and more of the everyday needs of everyone in the country (or on the planet, for that matter), it automatically means more and more money. If government is to supply all medical needs, for example, or all secondary education, it requires money. Much more than is available at this time.
So...not possible to reduce spending under Democratic policies or increasing responsibilities.
"What I really would like to see from the Dems is somebody completely, socially liberal while expressing actual frustration at how the government spends and wastes our money with a plan to trim government while making it work better."
Wilderness, you and I both know that the Republicans do not know how to do this either.
They just kow tow to their own constituency and are just as wasteful in their own way. It just depends how you look at it.
I agree, it's not possible. The irony, of course, is that although Republicans say they believe in less government, government spending has gone up under their leadership. If you compare government spending under Republican and Democratic administrations, that spending goes up more under Republicans.
Yep. They aren't much better - they just don't make it a priority. It happens just the same, but they don't prioritize having big government.
But a random thought - are Democrat give-away programs gaining real traction years after they are passed...during the next administration? The medicaid expansion, for example - don't know who pushed that, but it is a good example of democrat philosophy and was strongly implemented during Trump's reign (at least in my state).
What drives me nuts is that the Dems don’t see the opportunity to go with a “smaller government that works for all of us” sort of philosophy.
Somehow that goes against everything they stand for. I don't understand if it is a drive for power (bigger government means they have more power) or money.
For some reason the party has decided that government needs to control the people in nearly every facet. People are children, it seems, to the democratic party, unable to care for themselves, unable to support themselves, unable to make any but the most minor decisions for themselves. The party must do that for them. That means power, with a capital P, for the party, of course, and with that kind of power comes money.
Follow the money, always, for the reasons behind the proclaimed ones.
Unfortunately for me, the Democrats also push things I'm all for. Gay rights, for instance, and abortion rights as well. They are the champion, far more than the right, for acceptance of all without bias. If they could just do that and stay out of my pocketbook, along with out of my life (as much as possible) they would get my vote every time.
But they can't.
Thanks for your response.
I hope that Joe is smart enough to pick a progressive running mate to help to unify the party. The two you mentioned are excellent choices, to help to shore up our prospects next fall.
Waste does not necessarily have an ideological label. We can all agree to the need for government to become more efficient and less wasteful. It is just that the Dark side, pays no attention to one kind of waste while my side pays too little attention to other forms. And political hucksterism and sleeze keep legislators from coming together to identify and remove waste, fraud and abuse, even when there is not ideological component.
Yes, this is exactly why I did not want Biden to be the Democratic nominee. Too much in common with Trump. Still, he is at least sane and capable of caring about other people
At least Biden does retain the capacity to admit when he has been in error and apologize, a trait sorely lacking from our "stable genius".
The ability to listen, learn and acknowledge mistakes and change course is an admiral one when found in a leader. Trump is none of that.
That is most certainly an opinion only.
In my book, he is far worse than Trump, he made his billions selling out America's best interests and Americans.
The man is fast tracking to senility and he is an establishment hack.
Its truly telling, that people who are so outraged about what Trump is accused of being (from mentally unstable, to racist, to sexist) are willing to support someone who is absolutely racist, sexist, and going senile.
It shows there is no heart, no willingness to fight for what you say you believe in, if you are willing to support such a wretch.
Maybe if you stopped supporting the criminal cabal that promises you one thing, then craps all over you while selling you out, a difference could be made. If you refuse to support Creepy Joe, if these corrupt establishment hacks can't get Americans to support them, maybe some real change can happen.
You justify your support for Biden all you want, the man is everything Trump is accused of being, and more.
Where is your evidence that Joe Biden is worth billions?
This Forbes article and others say he's worth 9 million.
That's quite an exaggeration.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatin … 115af6104d
The money went into offshore accounts, went to his son, went to his son's "investment firm" and so on.
If you want to, I am sure you can track down all sorts of information regarding the 'allegation' I just made. I'm sorry I am not interested in doing so myself at this time, maybe one day I will do so and write a Hub.
So Forbes just missed all that? Sorry, but that claim doesn't seem even remotely truthful.
I did some searching and the first article I came across that even hinted at this was from the NY Post, not exactly a bastion of truthful information. If by billions, you mean all the money that all the firms connected to Biden and all his relatives made over the years, then that appears correct. It does not appear correct though that Biden himself has anywhere near that much money. And given how long he's been in politics and the speaking engagement fees he was able to charge, it's certainly not surprising he's a millionaire.
A few weeks ago I let it be known here that I would vote for any Democrat who gets the nomination except for Biden or Bloomberg. I made a pact with myself to always feel good about my vote. Of course, that incompetent, lying POS will not get my vote, either. If Biden is the nominee I will write in Elizabeth Warren.
"Its truly telling, that people who are so outraged about what Trump is accused of being (from mentally unstable, to racist, to sexist) are willing to support someone who is absolutely racist, sexist, and going senile."
Can we all say Hypocracy? Yes, the Dem party could not have picked a better candidate. Does this not make some stop and think about what is going on in the Democratic party?
They want to defeat Trump with a man that actually has done pretty much maybe even more than what they have accused Trump of doing.
Can we all say half-ass backward?
Just a thought, could the Dem party at this late date be tossing Uncle Joe under the bus to broker in Cuomo, and maybe even add Hillary in as VP in the bargain? Do you think the Dems could pull this grift off? It would mean once again skrewing Bernie. But, in my opinion, this is in their playbook so why not pull it out once again.
One thing for sure, it seems Ms. Reede is more than willing to step in and do her part. It seems she hopes to save us all from Joe. Wonder why she waited so long. LOL
The memory of Ms. Ford although a fading memory comes to mind. She also stepped in at the very last minute to save us all from Kavanaugh. If it's in the playbook, use it, no matter how obvious, it's still a winner, it still sells well.
It 's funny to me the Trump supporters are complaining about Joe being a womanizer when they wanted such a person in the WH last presidential election.
Can you say hypocrite?
Randy, I have read my comment, I have not complained of Biden being a womanizer. My point was to point out the hypocrisy of people who are so outraged about what Trump is accused of being (from mentally unstable, to racist, to sexist) are willing to support someone who is absolutely racist, sexist, and going senile.
No judgment on the condemning the act. I don't even know it to be a true accusation.
I think if you read my comment again you will see me giving a clear opinion that I think this is a political ploy. I can't figure out which party is perpetuating the grift.
I am jaded when it comes to the opposite sex when it comes to how some men conduct themselves. I don't in any respect condone sexual abuse of any kind. However, I am not blind to the fact it is part of our society and an unfortunate part.
I think it Hypicridical for anyone that condemns one man and not another that has pretty much the same womanizing reputation. Although, It seems like Uncle Joe is a bit more perverted in his exploits.
No way you spin it, Randy. it's hypocritical to condemn one man and not the other. You do realize there has been a ton of women come out to tell their stories of Joe's sexual misconduct, as there was with Trump.
So, will this make a difference when you vote? Will, you perhaps see my point of voting for an agenda? You do know ultimately that's what we all will end up doing once again. I think I have finally been able to make my point in regard to voting on the agenda offered up. At this point in our history, we have little else we can do.
I'm pretty sure that I already explained to you why Biden is the best choice against Trump:
1) Conservative #NeverTrumpers won't vote for a Bernie or Warren - and we NEED their votes. Why do we care about that? (See #2)
2) B & W's ideals (and obviously your's) are too extreme in the opposite direction of Trump and his belligerent army of conspiracy theorists - which would only do more to make the divisions in this country more pronounced, if that's possible. HEALING is what this country needs now, and I'm not talking about the virus.
3) This country has plenty of time to 'change' toward your ideals further ahead into the future after current political boxing matches are either lesser or done away with.
4) Now is the time to put someone 'mediocre' and 'moderate' in the potus office to start restabilizing the country and stop the boat from rocking so hard. He's only going to be in there for one term. He's going to pick a woman VP. If he chooses Warren, she'll be potus after him. You can wait.
5) Quit acting like a Trump loyalist, and HELP your country. We had enough of SPITE during the last election, which is how we ended up with Trump. TOP priority is voting him OUT.
6) Any other priority at this time is MOOT and irrelevant. Change will come, all in good time. To everything there is a season. Patience not spite.
It is a free country, MC and we are free to disagree as I do with you now.
1. I think that Trump and Republican Party have become one in the same and I think that the party wastes political capital trying to attract moderates or liberal Republicans as they are few in number and I doubt would support Democrats anyway. We need to stoke our base, instead with the promise of an alternate course. Mediocre and moderate just guarantees Trump another term, as it takes energy in general to dislodge an incumbent. That energy is an excited and motivated electorate.
2. Healing? I am not confident that Biden can dislodge Trump
3. We have had these "boxing matches" and ideological warfare between people and political parties since Reagan's 1980's. There is no time like the present, kicking the can has already been done for too long. If Trump or Biden is reelected chances are the opportunity to really shake things up a bit will be shelved for who knows how long. The advocates for the status quo are very powerful as you well know.
4.You know, MC, maybe I am tired of waiting. If Joe is smart enough to get a good candidate to balance the ticket, considering both factions of the party, it will go a long way. The scenario that you paint is far from certain with plenty of possible diversionary paths from the objective sought.
5. I help my country by supporting progressive candidates in earnest. I only support Biden because the TOP priority is getting Trump out. So, we are on the same side but for different reasons.
6. In my experience, We have had a history about being told to "wait" for change by those that never intended to change anything. My position is to continue to agitate and never take my eyes from the prize.
I was already concerned enough about all the videos of Biden sniffing and groping women and children in public. That alone isn't really proof of anything more than inappropriateness though (that subject was addressed in another thread). It wasn't likely that I would have voted for Biden anyway, unless, as petitioned for by Kyle Kulinski, he put a progressive like Nina Turner on the ticket. Now, I don't think I could vote for him no matter who he puts on the ticket. I listened to the interview and I believe she is telling the truth.
Oh boy. Lord knows President Trump is going to have a field day if he runs against Joe Biden.
I read the article Crank, but didn't see any corroborating witnesses who can back her story up, such as people she told about the incident at the time. Perhaps I missed it?
Nowadays all it takes is for a girl to say "You hurt me", and people will assume guilt until proven innocent. Look at what happened with Johnny Depp. All it took was for Amber Heard to say he hit her, and everyone in the media rushed to her defense, while Johnny lost his job as Jack Sparrow in the Pirate of the Caribbean movies, with no proof to back up her claim other than her word. Yet years later, we're finding out she was actually the one abusing him, yet Johnny was the only one that suffered from her accusations, so sometimes just an accusation is all it takes to soil someone's career.
That's why if I was a rich celebrity, I wouldn't go out with any women; let alone sleep with her; unless she was willing to sign consent forms to each date we went on. Got tested regularly for any diseases and pregnancy tests, and especially before sex, i'd have her sign a consent form before we even do anything. You can say that would be a mood killer all you want, but I'd rather be a mood killer than a guy who pays the price later.
Not specific to the Tara Reade accusations, but just in case you weren't aware of the other women speaking out against Biden:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 … -list.html
Personally, I look at the big picture and Joe's attitude of entitlement. It's the accounts of these women combined the numerous videos of him inappropriately touching women on camera and the way he treats voters that question him. There's also a long list of lies he has been able to tell with a smile.
Apparently this didn't hurt the present POTUS"s chance in the elections. J/K!
Well, it should be easy enough to corroborate her story. Certainly, she must have told quite a number of people.
Really, what if she did not tell anyone? Will, you believe her, as so many right here held up Ms. Ford's accusation about Kavanaugh. When friends that were at the party she claimed her abuse took place had no recollection of her story. Do you feel we need a Congressional investigation on Reede's accusation as we had with Kavanaugh? After all, the Presidency is our highest office. Her claim is clearly one of rape. So, do we need to call Biden in and investigate the matter?
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
There were several people who wanted to speak with the investigators about Kavanaugh and were never contacted, Shar. Why was that?
Yes, there were some at the time, some backed down shortly after. The friends she claimed were at the party could not confirm her story.
At any rate. I am making the point of how hypocritical it is to support one man that is accused of sexual abuse, and condemn the other. You're going off subject.
So, will you vote for Joe with these kinds of allegations? Will you be apt o believe Ms. Reede's alligations with possibly little proof but her word? This will be telling of your convictions. You have held up lofty convictions, which I believe is wonderful. Will you be standing by them when it comes time to vote or will you weigh the consequences,? Wil; you vote on agenda, setting aside convictions?
I will vote for Joe unless there's more to the story than is already reported, Shar. After all, you heard Trump's own words saying what he could do and still supported him anyway.
If Joe said the same, it would make a big difference in the way I looked at him as POTUS candidate.
Yes, I heard his words. As I have heard many men say off-color sexual remarks throughout my life. I find that an unwanted forced sexual attack much worse than big mouths words. If I understand you you find it more acceptable to hold someone down and insert fingers into her vagina and do it with force., then verbally telling her to get out "you are a nobody". You consider for a man in the presence of another man bragging what he could do to women in beauty pageants. "I can grab them in the ---- and they let me. Do you feel did a worse offense?
If Joe did attack Ms. Reede he needs to be charged, have his day in court. If this woman has any proof of this attack Joe could be in deep trouble.
Although, it most likely will go nowhere. But we will all have to vote. We once again will be forced to consider the party, the agenda, not the man. I voted agenda, feeling my party was backing someone with not only an unattractive old agenda but to someone I could not respect. I backed a blow it wide open agenda, one that said "it's time the buck stops", time to look at what American's need at this point in our history. I overlooked personality and demeanor. Been there done that...
I appreciate your response, it did work to make me think. Once again seems like we are back to 2016. Same problems, same decisions must be considered.
Why would you care if Joe is accused of these things? Trump has been accused of the same and more by multiple women over the course of many years and that's perfectly acceptable to you and every other Trump fan.
The nerve of you people is still astounding. And really, really Gross with a capital G.
People that are willing to brush off an accusation from a 14-year old and then try and take some moral high ground on the issue is, as Panther says, Gross.
Why? This man is running for president. Why, I must ask the same-- Why did you care about what Trump had done before he ran? Will you vote for Joe or call him a POS? Hopefully, I answered your question. Nice defect, not interested.
I've already said multiple times I will not vote for Biden, and I said it before this latest allegation.
Again, why the F do you care, given you knowingly voted for a man who openly admitted to assaulting women and ogling half-dressed minors?
Am I to assume I must be careful not to ask a question? However, it appears it's appropriate for you to ask me a question. Go figure. I guess I must admit, I don't read your posts unless they are addressed to me, as this one was. I assume I have that right? LOL
I am in no respect owe you any explanation of why I voted for Trump or why I will vote for him once again. I will just quote you...
"The nerve of you people is still astounding. And really, really Gross with a capital G."
"PRETTYPANTHER WROTE:
Why would you care if Joe is accused of these things? Trump has been accused of the same and more by multiple women over the course of many years and that's perfectly acceptable to you and every other Trump fan.
The nerve of you people is still astounding. And really, really Gross with a capital G."
You do realize that anyone on the left being rude, nasty or disgusting is supposed to be glossed over and ignored?
You, on the other hand, are quite rude to point it out.
Aw, a Trump supporter worried about civility again. That's a new one. Not.
Well --- I guess I give a bit back to what I am given. I appreciate your message, but I am in no way needing schooling on how to respond to comments. I thought I was very direct in my response and actually did not come up with an insult. I quoted her.
Sorry if I offended you. I don't intend to worry about pleasing everyone.
I was being sarcastic with the last comment. I am constantly taken aback by the vitriol. Not on your part.
You are something else. Of course you can ask questions. And I can respond how I see fit. It is legitimate for those of us who cannot fathom voting for a lying, sexual-assauting, charity -frauding reality TV star to be totally flummoxed by a Trump voter questioning anyone's support of Biden. Totally legitimate..
You help highlight everything that is wrong with the left today.
Thanks. Keep it up. It helps bring the democratic party down.
Lol, right. You just can't handle the truth of what you've done. You still haven't explained why you think Democrats should be concerned about Biden but you're not concerned about Trump. Do you have a logical explanation? Do share.
Now, that was a very substantive response. I have a very nice life, and I am trying to keep it, thank you, despite being surrounded by Trumpeters who believe Trump when he minimizes the crisis and then behave accordingly, endangering their own lives and the lives of others.
I see you still have no explanation. I know it's difficult defending one's support of Trump and criticism of those who support Biden.
Like I said. Just easier to pass your comments by. Always argumentive, and very negative. You are clearly a woman that has a set in stone opinion when it comes to Trump. I am not willing or do I have the need to argue our differing opinions. I just find it futile. Not trying to demean you or insult your views. Hopefully, you realize it is not worth the bitter back and forths.
Yes, my opinion of Trump has not changed, which is perfectly logical since he has behaved as president just as he did as a candidate: lying, petty, corrupt, and incompetent.
And your opinion has not changed, either. You were okay with his lying and self-admitted sexual assaults then and you still are now.
I know you think that is an insult, but it is merely a truth.
Strange how some people look at things one way, Sandy. Their way....
How low will Trump have to go to lose someone like Shar? I am pretty close to believing there is no floor.
The floor has dropped a few levels for Trump's enablers. They cannot rise any higher than he can.
Randy, Not sure why you feel this way? I could not be prouder of the president with respect to how he has handled this virus crisis. He has done a superb job in my eyes. Just solidifies my opinion --- This man is all about solving problems for American's. I would shudder to think what would have happened in this crisis if Hillary was in the WH.
Trump is someone that works at solving problems and keeping promises. The proof is in evidence. All the BS about how he talks, how he lies is getting old. Let's look at his accomplishments over the last three years, not his personality.
Not sure how some can be so blind to his accomplishments. Really makes me realize several things about our society.
No floor has dropped out, many of us are more than pleased with Trump's accomplishments. Especially after seeing the way he has worked under a true crisis. Once again he has used his intelligence to work outside the box in so many ways to get things done. I look at this as positive, not sure why again you feel the floor has dropped due to how he has handled this crisis. I for one am proud of him.
You're proud of a guy who badly mismanaged a crisis that will lead to more American deaths?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/0 … yle-123465
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 … cil-149285
'Once again he has used his intelligence to work outside the box in so many ways to get things done.'
Indeed Shar, "we've stopped it!' What a joke he is as POTUS, but you're proud of him for it.
Hopefully, you are not quoting me. I certainly never said, "we've stopped it". I am very proud of him. You can deny the facts, that is your prerogative. I am certainly not taking on trying to divert your opinion.
My opinion is based on facts. Facts can be hard to swallow when they just are not what you wanted to hear. I understand. Just a few facts
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video … rence.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/ … ay-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/29/coronav … 00000.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business … -trillion/
It seems this opinion is based on the omission of facts. Facts you found hard to swallow as they do not fit into how you need to view Trump. Facts of the early mistakes that were made and how Trump downplayed the virus that has now exploded in the US. I'll post these again so you can become familiar with the facts from early on in this crisis and the mistakes that were made that got us to the world leader in confirmed Covid-19 cases.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 … cil-149285
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/0 … yle-123465
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/18/21185478/ … nese-virus
Fake news, Val! If it ain't from Fox or Breitbart, that is.
You hit this one right on the nose.
"Strange how some people look at things one way, Sandy. Their way".
Giving you the last word. You need it more than I.
Well, Huffington used her name as well as quoted her. Not a nice story. this is a pretty raunchy story. However, Biden has not responded with any form of a statement on this sexual attack. It seems Tara Reede waited a very long time to report this and perhaps should have reported it to the police instead of a reporter. Why now? One is innocent until proven guilty. Politics are dirty, and this is just the beginning. What the hell next?
There was a response there, which was to urge the press to investigate because they know its fault. So that's an interesting response. It's nice of you to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I'd like to see more evidence for her accusations, just some people to back her up. But given Biden's attack on Anita Hill, it doesn't seem like he was overly respectful of the female perspective back then.
I never heard anything about Biden attacking Anita Hill. Is it the same Anita Hill that claimed she was sexually assaulted by [Justice Thomas?
This will hit the Sunday morning shows. I hate to say this, but the timing looks planned. It looks very obviously planned. Need to hear from Joe...
Joe Biden's attack on Anita Hill during her testimony during Clarence Thomas's SCOTUS confirmation hearing is pretty well known and he's apologized for it. I'm using "attack" for a verbal attack.
I thought you were referring to a sexual attack, not a verbal one. Yes, I do remember how he berated her. If I remember, in the District of Columbia there is no time limitation for bringing a sexual crime charge against someone. Ms. Reede is claiming a lot more than smelling her hair.
One has to wonder where will all of this goes?
Today, I am seeing many articles where Biden's Champaign has labeled the story false. Time to have Ms. Reede give her proof if she has any. This could be all a political smear from either side.
“I don't know if I can choose between two sexual predators.“
So crazy Bernie is a sexual predator? I didn’t know that.
My first thought: WHY is Biden's bad sexual behavior a big deal and Trump's isn't? Even if its true, T-man is FAR guiltier - so, I won't even be considering it.
You can't use 'bad stuff' against Biden as long as Trump has him beat in the same issue - and then some.
It's humorous to me, actually. Joe Biden as the candidate for the democrats brings into sharp focus the failings of that party, the way their elite ignore the rank and file in order to allow the elite to maintain the status quo.
Any who will defend the decision to make Joe Biden the anointed one have lost any credibility they may have ever had.
And those who would minimize the ramifications of these new allegations, if they supported the woman who, with no corroborating evidence, attacked Cavanaugh......shame on them.
I am somewhat compelled to agree. I wonder why the lady has not gone to the police. it's ok she has gone to the press but the police is also important. I am sure Joe Biden has his own version as well. Why is this incident coming up after so many years?
Out of curiosity did you hold the same position during the Cavanaugh hearings?
Many of us held the position that we wanted to hear from more witnesses in the Kavanaugh confirmation to determine the character of a lifetime appointee. That they fast-tracked the process to silence those allegations was an issue we had. Many of us are fine getting more investigation into this accusation as well so we can determine for ourselves how credible it is.
For me, this is similar to Kavanaugh and Trump where there is a good chance that each has shown impropriety towards women in their past, but only the Democrats are to be expected to hold their candidate to account.
And since this accusation, Biden has proved himself capable of being Vice President for eight years, albeit with some personal space issues, but nothing that rises to the level that Trump had been accused of and forgiven by the GOP (call me when a 14-year old girl accuses Biden of rape). While not ideal, still the lesser of two evils and a competent civil servant that won't take government on a huge spending spree.
What disgusts me about the Kavanaugh hearings is how many of his accusers have recanted their stories. It was fake and only for the media to exploit. These people who recanted their stories weren't covered much in the media.
"Fifth Kavanaugh Accuser Recants
A Rhode Island man who accused Brett Kavanaugh of raping a “close associate of his” on a boat in 1985 recanted just hours after the claims were made public Wednesday.
The accuser, Jeff Catalan, called the office of Representative Sheldon White House of Rhode Island “making allegations concerning a rape on a boat in August of 1985,” according to transcripts of a call between committee staff and Kavanaugh released on Wednesday."
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fif … r-recants/
So, what do you think? Could the Dem'sbe pull a Kavanaugh on Biden? I know this is only a thought. However, it seems to be out of the same playbook. It is clear the Dems are in a corner and have little chance of winning with Joe.
Maybe they are looking to pull out an old overused play to broker in Cuomo. I realize this is all hypothetical. Care to dive into the hypothetical, offer an opinion?
I think it is obvious there is no lie the Democrats won't perpetuate to get what they want. When people say President Donald Trump lies, I tell them you'd never know considering the number of lies told about him. Blatant falsehoods the left will tout as facts. So, I believe they are frustrated their media lackeys and lie machines aren't working. They lie so much, they lied to themselves into believing Joe Biden is a worthy candidate. They believed their own rhetoric so much, they've lost touch with reality. Hypothetically, I believe they are deluded enough to stick with Joe Biden and justify his mistakes and believe they are victims of the system when their person isn't elected. That is the play book of the current Democrat party. I think that is what has to change for them.
We heard enough to know there were absolutely no corroborating witnesses and many witnesses to the contrary of MS. Ford's testimony.
Fortunately, we know that Kavanaugh is a complete fraud because he lied during his confirmation hearings. So I'm not sure I'd believe him under any circumstance.
Geez. Tell me one person in Washington who hasn't repeatedly lied.
I can't think of one.
Evidently crank can’t think of one lie to answer what lie Kavanaugh said, probably because he is just parroting a talking point headline from Vox or other left wing fake news article.
Here, this may help explain what I just said, the answer to what lie Kavanaugh said:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/ … -baseless/
Could be political, could be perpetrated by either side. Here is how I look at it.
If the Dems came up with the ploy --- They could broker in a candidate. Like Cuomo. Which at this point is getting lots of love from media, as well as the public patting him on the back for doing a good job handling the virus. I don't think I have heard a negative word on Cuomo. In my opinion, he would make a great candidate for president. I think the Dem can see all the left BS they have been pushing for a while has doomed them. Cuomo is a common-sense man from New York. Actually he is a Trump, that can control his mouth. very common-sense man. Hey, they could dd Hillary to the ticket to try to clinch the deal.
The GOP--- They could be behind this story. It certainly is a scandal and would point out the Hypocrisy if they tried to ignore it. Good fodder for Rallies not to mention media. Joe has a colorful past, the Republicans will most likely use his past to batter hin.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. This woman could literally charge Biden with rape. The District Of Columbia has no time limits on reporting sexual abuse.
His pettiness during this crisis is so maddening. You all think I'm disgusted, you should hear my husband. Retired military, three tours in Vietnam, served at NORAD and in the Pentagon, adored Reagan. Lifelong Republican until Trump. He literally hates him.
After the Rose Garden MyPillow debacle today, who wants some action whether tomorrow's Covid-19 briefing will be:
1.) Kanye West
2.) Kid Rock
3.) Ted Nugent
4.) Scott Baio
5.) Jon Voight
But that MyPillow guy sure did ensure himself a nice chunk of that 500 billion bailout money.
You got me Valeant. I had to go find that Rose garden video with 'the My Pillow guy'. But after watching, I just have to ask . . .
Was it also a debacle because David Pryor of Proctor & Gamble spoke? Or Debra Waller of Jockey International?
You seem to be poking fun at 'the My Pillow guy', but are you also poking fun at his switching 75%, (per the video), of his production to producing face masks for this crisis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nhplpkWs0
Sure, 'the My Pillow guy' is ripe for picking if you just want to make a jab at the president, but why leave out the other companies and all of their noted efforts to help with the crisis? Are their products and efforts more respectable?
Or, do you just think it is unreasonable for a president to be giving public acknowledgment to private sector companies that are trying to help?
GA
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