"I could ‘shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters"
Actually in 2016, Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters."
After much thought and contemplation, I have come to realize what he is really saying is I can lie my a** off forever and not lose any voters. After him lying for over 30,000 documented times as president and continuing to lie until this day, his voters could care less that he is a sociopathic liar.
I don't think he would shoot somebody, but he is using shooting as a metaphor for lying. He has figured it out that there are no consequences for him lying, but there are consequences for those who are affected about his steady stream of lies..
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics … index.html
His latest lie is a beauty.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-janu … town-hall/Thanks for the laugh...
I mean it, best laugh of the day.
To think, this guy has gotten under your skin so much, for so long you are still dwelling on something he said in 2015...
or 2016...
Who cares???
The alternative has been EPICALLY disastrous no matter who you side with, unless you are for Anarchy or/and Insanity.
If you are a Dem... and sane... you have to ADMIT there has been a Dementia patient as President.
Hmmmmm...
Then you have to ADMIT you... YOU Democrats who talk of how IMPORTANT it is for every vote to count... every vote matters!!!
YOU got NO choice in WHO your Democrat Nominee is.Ken: You say I go back to 2016, Trump has lied his whole life, He can't help himself, but what is very concerning and dangerous, it is becoming apparent that he really believes what he says.
I don't want him anywhere near the nuclear button. You laugh, but it is not funny. I feel sorry for you and all of those who have been brainwashed by this narcissistic, lying, sociopathic master-con artist. I would rather have a stuttering president I can trust who makes a few gaffs instead of him.
I couldn't have said this any better. Trump's position on Jan. 6 reaches an ugly new low.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … d&ei=6Sorry, don't care...
Very smart people who care very deeply for America support Trump.
And they warn repeatedly what Harris (a continuation of those who are in power now, or worse) will bring.
Elon Musk
Eric Weinstein
Tulsi Gabbard
RFK Jr.
Vivek Ramaswamy
And so many more...
I am not going to trust the people who have brought us to the brink of nuclear war.
I am not going to trust the people who released hundreds of billions to Iran, who in turn funded all the horror being unleashed in the Middle East now.
I am not going to trust the people who have used American tax dollars to bring in, house, support millions of migrants... so that they can take jobs that belonged to Americans.
I am not going to trust people who want to take away our Freedom of Speech and our Rights to Property and Protection.
All these things and so much more harm will be brought about by a Harris Administration and a continuation down this dark path we are on.
Hopefully there are enough sane, non-indoctrinated by the bombardment of endless lies and propaganda in America to save it...
I don't believe it will happen, my experiences on HP forums as well as dealing with as many people as I do, have me convinced we are on the path that will make Harris our next President.
Harris will be our Stalin... our Mao... and there is no going back, there is no redo in four years. There will only be suffering for the American people for many years to come."I am not going to trust the people who have used American tax dollars to bring in, house, support millions of migrants... so that they can take jobs that belonged to Americans."
How? Specifically.
"The number of migrants illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border reached its lowest point under President Biden in September. The drop comes after the administration implemented strict new asylum policies, which have sharply limited who can seek refuge in the U.S."Would seem you fit in the group that weighs issues --- "The number of migrants illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border reached its lowest point under President Biden in September. The drop comes after the administration implemented strict new asylum policies, which have sharply limited who can seek refuge in the U.S."
I can't help but laugh—what about the millions who came in before September 2024? How long has he been in office? How many did he allow in with "catch and release"? It almost seems like he wanted this influx to happen now. Let me share --- Biden could have done exactly what he did to have numbers like Sept 2024, the day he walked into office.
I wonder why you would have even gone there...Surely people here understand that his asylum executive order will not stand. He has clearly taken an illegal action as a last ditch effort due to the failed bill... Which actually would have made this measure legal. Lol. Surely folks on this forum also understand that the so-called catch and release is a practice utilized when detention centers are full and migrants have the right to remain while awaiting adjudication. I'm sure everyone here also knows that Trump used this tool when surges necessitated it. I am certain that folks here have acquainted themselves with immigration law and it's levers that " allow people in" regardless of who is in the White House.
Let's say a caravan of a million or two migrants decides on Trump's inauguration day to make it to the border and claim asylum and half of them have credible fear... Law lets them wait in the country, so what does he do?While some may argue that Biden's recent actions are a response to a failed bill and are thus a last-ditch effort, it is important to note that these actions could have—and arguably should have—been taken three years ago. It is obvious he would come against lawsuits, as Trump did with his border actions. The point Biden did nothing but play the blame game. Plus the Bill, both bills were very bad and would have encouraged more migrants to present at our borders.
I have researched both bills and feel I can share what I learned.
Biden's first immigration bill, known as the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021, faced several drawbacks that critics argued could be interpreted as an invitation to come to the U.S. border. One significant concern was that the bill proposed an expansive pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, which some believed could encourage more migrants to attempt crossing the border, anticipating favorable treatment under potential new laws. Critics pointed to provisions in the bill that aimed to streamline the asylum process and reduce barriers for those seeking refuge in the U.S., suggesting that these changes might incentivize increased migration. Additionally, the bill sought to eliminate certain enforcement measures and increase protections for undocumented immigrants, which opponents argued could weaken border security and further attract individuals considering illegal entry. The emphasis on creating a more lenient immigration framework, combined with promises of comprehensive reform, led some to assert that the legislation signaled a less restrictive stance, effectively inviting more people to seek entry into the country. These concerns contributed to significant debate surrounding the bill, with detractors arguing that it did not adequately address the complexities of border security and could lead to an increase in migration flows.
The second bill was just as bad for America.The bill that Biden came in with on day one was definitely skewed more liberal but the bill that was crafted by Republican James Lankford was definitely skewed conservative. The proven results of Biden's executive order on asylum are great evidence of what the bill would have made permanent had Trump not torpedoed it. I would suffice it to say that a bill that conservative won't come around again in many many decades.
To think that anything more conservative than the bipartisan bill will gain traction is not realistic.
I'm really not understanding what was so bad in the second bill? It certainly was much more conservative than the bill Trump supported in 2018 that failed in Congress.
Can anyone name specific provisions of the bill that were "bad".You still innor that Biden did nothing for over 3 years, and then acted with EOS he could have used on day one. Some of which he used in his recent EOs were already present in our current immigration laws. He could have acted years ago. many of us would like to know why he did nothing.
I do not intend to debate the bill that was shot down, it was nothing but a bigger invitation for migrants to come on down.
Biden's EOs
A few months ago, President Biden introduced a series of measures to try to stop the flow.
Key policies include:
1. Expanded Pathways for Legal Entry: Biden's administration created or expanded pathways for migrants to apply for legal entry without needing to make dangerous crossings. This includes increasing the use of humanitarian parole for specific groups and expanding refugee resettlement for people from countries like Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti, and Nicaragua. The aim was to encourage legal entry and reduce pressure at the border.
2.Part of standing immigration laws --- Increased Use of Title 8: After Title 42 ended in May 2023, the administration began relying more on Title 8, the longstanding immigration law that allows for the deportation of individuals who do not meet the requirements for asylum or legal entry. Title 8 carries legal consequences like longer re-entry bans, which discourage unauthorized border crossings.
3. Regional Processing Centers: The administration announced the establishment of regional processing centers in Latin American countries to allow migrants to apply for asylum or other forms of legal entry without traveling to the U.S. border.
4. Part of standing immigration laws---Asylum Restrictions: New rules were implemented that make it harder for migrants to claim asylum if they did not first seek protection in a country they passed through on their way to the U.S. The administration also increased deportations of those who did not follow the legal pathways established for asylum.
5. Cooperation with Mexico and Other Countries: The Biden administration expanded cooperation with Mexico and other Central American countries to enhance border enforcement and manage migration flows regionally. This included joint efforts to crack down on human smuggling networks.
6. Part of standing immigration laws --- Humanitarian Assistance and Support for Border Communities: Along with enforcement, the administration provided resources and support for communities dealing with the influx of migrants, while focusing on humane treatment for those seeking asylum.
So why not 3.5 years ago, perhaps when he realized Congress was not going to cooperate with him on an Immigration bill?
Trump's current plan is diverse with or without Congress, he has solutions. Solutions I offered in a previous comment here.
Not sure we should even be pleased with seeing numbers down for a couple of months --- Total Oct 2023 - Aug 2024
2,033,260 Enforcement Encounters
Are you really suggesting that all the months and years of our border being overwhelmed by hundreds of thousands of migrants will just vanish if we ignore the staggering numbers? Just focusing on the last two months seems misguided, especially after enduring years of shock at the vast influx of migrants—many of whom were released into the country with inadequate vetting, including some with violent criminal records. It appears you're willing to overlook his ineffective problem-solving and the serious issues that have arisen from his inability to govern.The number of encounters will always fluctuate depending on the number of migrants who decide to leave their country and claim asylum at our border. Many would suggest that we could actually make some changes in that area, address "push" factors, but that's quite a long shot in my opinion. What else remains constant is that the same laws meet these migrants at the border, whether the encounters are 500 a day or 500,000 a day. Our next president will be blamed for the impacts of those same outdated, inadequate laws. His asylum executive order has made a difference, a difference that the border bill would have actually made lawful and permanent. That was a huge missed opportunity.
Why Biden didn't enact this specific order earlier in his term? We can only guess. He thought Congress would act? They have been active over the years. Any president who presides over "fixing" immigration law by Congress coming together and enacting reform (not temporary orders). Will go down in history for doing so. It will be epic, who wouldn't want that as their legacy? So far, it has been beyond the grasp of either party. Although the bipartisan bill was really the closest we have ever come.
I'm fairly confident Trump is not going to win this election but if he did, I don't have any faith in him rallying a congress in which bipartisan support would absolutely be needed to pass a border bill. And after Biden's asylum order is vacated by the courts, Trump will have literally nothing available in the order arsenal. His other "plans" sound more like fantastical tall tales than realistic options. And what we would see then? Him shifting the blame to Congress and maybe at that point, his followers will have come full circle in understanding that a president has very little impact on immigration. Just that alone would be priceless for me.Or, "A Horse with No Name" by the popular band 'America' released the year 1971 some say is folk rock, soft rock, or country rock. Do you remember it?
Lyrics . . .
https://genius.com/America-a-horse-with-no-name-lyricsYou wrote this a few comments back.
While some may argue that Biden's recent actions are a response to a failed bill and are thus a last-ditch effort, it is important to note that these actions could have—and arguably should have—been taken three years ago. It is obvious he would come against lawsuits, as Trump did with his border actions. The point Biden did nothing but play the blame game. Plus the Bill, both bills were very bad and would have encouraged more migrants to present at our borders.
You missed my point.. What is wrong with this picture? Trump as a civilian, not even a government employee has so much power that he can tell congress to kill an immigration bill that both sides agreed to and that Biden was ready to sign into law?
The reason he did it was to make Biden look bad when it comes to immigration. He knew that if Biden looked bad it would give him the advantage he needed to run another term against him.
As far as waiting so long to do anything about immigration, you have to put yourself in his shoes. Why did Trump wait so long to tell the American people that COVID was a killer instead of down playing it as just a cold or flu and it would go away into a few days? He said it was because he didn't want to panic the people because it would make him look bad as president. That decision resulted in thousands of people dying needlessly before he actually told the truth.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/timel … -comments/I’ve been able to find several public statements where Trump criticized the immigration bill, all of which were negative. However, based on my research, I cannot definitively say that he personally killed the bill by instructing Congress to reject it. I haven't found any specific congresspersons claiming that Trump directly told them to block the legislation.
Trump, as a private citizen, does have the right to express his opinions freely, even though he no longer holds office. In a way, you could see him as an activist, given his influence over public opinion and his ability to mobilize support for or against political issues. Many people still listen to and agree with his viewpoints.
Personally, I agreed with Trump’s criticisms of the bill. I felt it was poorly constructed and would have only encouraged more migrants to come without addressing the core issues. That's just my perspective.
In Bob Woodward’s book Rage, Trump is quoted discussing COVID-19 with Woodward in a taped interview from March 2020. Trump said:
“I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.” DJT
The claim that Trump downplayed COVID-19 purely to protect his image as president is not fully accurate, and it overlooks the many actions he took to combat the virus. His administration took swift measures to prevent the spread of the virus. For example, Trump imposed travel restrictions on China as early as January 31, 2020, which health experts later acknowledged helped delay the virus's spread.
He also invoked the Defense Production Act, pushing General Motors to produce ventilators during a critical shortage. Additionally, Trump mobilized resources to set up field hospitals in large venues, such as in New York, to provide extra hospital beds and care. These steps were crucial in addressing the crisis at its peak.
Furthermore, Trump spearheaded Operation Warp Speed, which fast-tracked the development of vaccines. Thanks to these efforts, vaccines became available by December 2020, an unprecedented achievement. Trump's administration also worked on securing personal protective equipment (PPE) and masks for healthcare workers. Although his messaging about the virus can be debated, his actions and his deeds to mitigate the crisis were far-reaching. You have concentrated on words as if words could have outpaced deeds.
In contrast, the Biden administration faced its own challenges with distributing vaccines and test strips to the public. Many people, including myself, experienced significant delays in getting appointments for vaccines. The lack of organization in the early days of vaccine distribution under Biden's leadership left many frustrated, showing that managing such a massive public health crisis is complex for any administration.
I hesitate to say this, but I feel that your perspective on this issue may be biased and influenced by a personal dislike for Trump.
We have certainly discussed this subject at great length over the years. We have far different views of how Trump handled COVID."I felt it was poorly constructed and would have only encouraged more migrants to come without addressing the core issues.".
Which part, specific provision would be encouraging?"The claim that Trump downplayed COVID-19 purely to protect his image as president is not fully accurate, and it overlooks the many actions he took to combat the virus. '
Here we go again with Trump folks telling us what he "really meant..."
He said what he said and he meant it. Plain and simple.
“I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.” DJT
He says what he means. And actually it seems like he doesn't really like his followers reworking to change the meaning of what he says.
He told us he wanted to downplay it, that is what he meant.Sharlee: I hate to tell you this, but 90% of what you wrote is about Trump after he got on board with Covid. Why do you think he didn't want to create a panic? If there was a panic, he would look bad and lose control of his con of downplaying the virus.
This is the in-context dialog between Trump and Woodward:
"This is deadly stuff," Mr. Trump said. Three days later, the president said during an event with the nation's governors that "a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat, as the heat comes in," adding the U.S. is in "great shape."
In another interview with Woodward on March 19, the president conceded that he was downplaying the threat of the virus in public.
"I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic," Mr. Trump told Woodward. The Trump administration was slow to encourage wearing a mask in public, and the president himself repeatedly pushed states to reopen their economies in the spring, repeating as late as April that he believed the virus will "go away."
On March 25, Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House that no one could have foreseen the pandemic, which had by that time shut down much of the economy. "Nobody would ever believe a thing like that's possible," he said at a White House briefing. "Nobody could have ever seen something like this coming, but now we know, and we know it can happen and happen again."
Mr. Trump on Wednesday referred to the book — for which he conducted nine hours of interviews — a "political hit job."
"It's just another political hit job ... I gave him some quotes," the president said.
It's obvious you are a very intelligent person, but I notice lately your comments overwhelm the reader with too much information that has been cherry picked. You don't put the links to the sources where you got the information from. Therefore, it is hard to tell how much is you opinion and what is fact. You notice I always try to put the links where I got the information from."I've shared several links with you in the past that outline the timeline of how Trump handled COVID-19—focusing on his actions, not just his words. At this point, I feel it's best to step away, as it would be unproductive to keep offering the same links just for the sake of politeness. We clearly have different perspectives on Trump’s response to the pandemic. I respect your view, but it seems you can't respect mine. Anyone looking at the timeline can see the facts about what Trump did to manage COVID, even being called a racist for shutting down travel to and from China. How can you ignore everything he did, and only concentrate on words? Can not you see how very odd this is?
"He said what he said and he meant it. Plain and simple. "
You mean like when he said to "Peacefully march and talk to your representative" and liberals used a special code language to determine it meant to "riot violently"?I remember you saying you never even watched Jan.6. Therefore, you are full of more S**T than a Christmas turkey. You always start every reply with "You mean like..." No we don't mean like what you said.
Does Dan's comment not truly point out a form of hypocrisy?
"He said what he said and he meant it. Plain and simple. " Willow
Dan just pointed out Trump also said --- "Peacefully march and talk to your representative" Dan
The context shows Dan trying to make a point. Nothing more...
So "No we don't mean like what you said." So is one to pick and choose what Trump said? As Willow said "He said what he said and he meant it. Plain and simple. " Or do you only accept the words you choose to use against Trump? And Ignore the words that do not suit your purpose? He made several statements on Jan 6th that called for the crowd to march peacefully, and to respect our police.
“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” DJT Jan 6
"We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen." DJT Jan 6
“We want to be peaceful, we want to be respectful.” DJT Jan 6
"We have to give our police the tools they need to do their job. We need to respect our police." DJT Jan 6
Have you any thoughts on these Trump quotes? Did you realize he spoke these words on Jan 6 during his speech?
Many in today's society have a very selective way of picking words that fuel their hate. It's time to just call it like it is. It's obvious they ignore both words and actions that don't fit their narrative, all to satisfy their need for true hate for Trump. It's a phenomenon, one can call it nothing else.
I think you live in Michigan. This is what Trump said about Detroit. Please interpret this for what he really meant to say. Thank you.
DETROIT (AP) — Former President Donald Trump criticized Detroit while delivering remarks to an economic group there on Thursday, saying the whole country would end up like the city if his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, is elected.
“The whole country will be like — you want to know the truth? It’ll be like Detroit,” the Republican presidential nominee said. “Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she’s your president.”
Trump’s remarks came as he addressed the Detroit Economic Club in a speech appealing to the auto industry, a key segment of the population in battleground Michigan’s largest city. But he made conflicting remarks about Detroit throughout the speech, saying it was a “developing” city in an apparent compliment.
Democrats in the state were quick to criticize Trump for his comments. Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan lauded the city’s recent drop in crime and growing population.
“Lots of cities should be like Detroit. And we did it all without Trump’s help,” he said on social media.
U.S. Rep. Shri Thanedar, who represents Detroit, said on social media that Trump should “keep Detroit and our people out of your mouth.” Referring to Trump’s efforts to win Michigan, Attorney General Dana Nessel said on X, “This guy is calling us ugly and then asking us out on a date.”"In a recent speech in Detroit, former President Donald Trump addressed a crowd of supporters, emphasizing themes of strength and determination regarding the 2024 election. His remarks included a range of topics, from allegations of election fraud to calls for unity among his supporters.
Trump's comment that sparked controversy was met with immediate backlash on social media, where critics accused him of promoting divisive rhetoric. However, those in attendance at the speech responded with enthusiasm, as evidenced by the standing OVATION he received at multiple points during his address. Supporters applauded his focus on law enforcement and his assertion of American values, interpreting his words as a rallying cry for the Republican base.
Despite the polarized reactions from the media, many attendees expressed their unwavering support for Trump, viewing his comments as a necessary defense against what they perceived as injustices. As discussions surrounding his remarks continue, it’s clear that Trump's ability to galvanize his base remains strong, even in the face of scrutiny from mainstream media." Detroit News
Trump's comment was focused on the high crime rate in Detroit and the financial issues that have plagued the city for over a decade. I would assume that everyone at the speech understood what he was referring to, as he was addressing an economic club. Those of us living in Michigan are well aware of the crime and financial challenges he mentioned. I also might add Michigan citizens are thick-skinned, common-sense people. I should say most of us.
It was only Democrats such as Nessel that mouthed the speech. Which would be well expected.https://x.com/SpeakerJoeTate/status/1846255085753426237
Has it never come back? From a wide range of sources, it looks like a bit of a success story on all fronts.No Trump was not "talking crap". recent reports, Detroit's debt situation is more manageable than it was during its bankruptcy in 2013, but the city still carries significant financial obligations. Here are some key points regarding Detroit's debt:
Total Debt: After emerging from bankruptcy, Detroit's total debt was approximately $18 billion, which included pension liabilities, bonds, and other obligations.
Pension Liabilities: A substantial portion of the debt comes from pension obligations. The city has made commitments to address its unfunded pension liabilities, which are estimated to be around $3 billion, depending on the specific estimates and methodologies used.
They are in debt big time, and doing all they can to work their way out of this debt. It will take decades.
Crime --- They are working on crime, by no means could one say they have yet to win the fight.
Crime in Detroit has historically been higher than the national average, particularly in categories like violent crime. Here are some key points regarding crime in the city:
Violent Crime Rates: Detroit has struggled with high rates of violent crime, including homicides, assaults, and gun violence. While there have been improvements in recent years, the city still faces challenges with violent crime, particularly in certain neighborhoods.
Property Crime: Property crimes, such as burglary and theft, are also prevalent in Detroit, although these rates have shown some decline in recent years.
Recent Trends: According to recent reports, there have been fluctuations in crime rates, with some areas experiencing reductions in violent crime while others continue to face challenges. Community policing efforts and initiatives to address gang violence have been implemented to improve safety.
Public Perception: The perception of crime in Detroit can sometimes overshadow the city's progress in reducing crime rates and improving public safety. Many residents and officials are working towards addressing the root causes of crime and enhancing community safety.
Efforts to Reduce Crime: The city has invested in various programs aimed at reducing crime, including community engagement initiatives, increased police presence in high-crime areas, and partnerships with local organizations to address underlying issues such as poverty and lack of access to resources.
Detriot has many areas where the elderly carry a gun to go to their mailboxes.
Trump was very much within his rights to point out that Detriot has big problems with both debt and crime. These are big problems that are being worked on. Detroit has certainly been a city that never gives up on trying to make a comeback, and is at this point making headway downtown, but not in the neighborhood where the poor live with crime and blight. Downtown is made up of wonderful opportunities and great places for mostly whites to live and enjoy. That is just a fact... Downtown is great with wonderful sports venues, restaurants shopping, and all one could want in a city. But, it is a mecca for mostly those who can afford it, which to be blunt the majority are white folks. Trump was talking about what he saw on his drive-in, slums, that are not being addressed or are the people being helped.
And for Joe Tate ---- lol he represents Detroit Riverfront, Grosse Pointe Park. He lives in one of the richest districts in Wayne County. No crime where Joe lives...
We have a great gun problem not only in Detroit but Michigan --- We all have guns. It's sort of a miracle we don't have a high rate of gun deaths... Many cities have open carry, and it has become easy to become accustomed to seeing guns on people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFZFj0klLHo
But Detriot in some neighborhoods is like the Old West. This most likely is the city Trump was referring to. Grandma's and guns.Again you are overwhelming us with irrelevant information. The point you are making is that Detroit has a big gun problem and debt problem. Trump's comment asserted that if Harris is elected, the rest of country will have the same problem as Detroit...Do you get it?
He simply pointed out that If Harris was elected the country could become like Detroit. Broke, and crime-ridden. I sought to confirm where he was coming from when he used Detriot as such an example. His words hit home with me. I agree with him, I feel she does not have the ability to run the country, period. She had no pro's on my pro's and con's list. First time in all of my voting history and I say that. Even Biden had a few pros. She got zero.
In other words if you like how San Fran, LA, Chicago and NY are being run, those cities in particular and those States in general...
Then you should definitely be voting for Harris, she will march the entire country in the direction San Fran and NY City have been going the last few years.Her liberal policies would ruin what is left of the country. I mean how much more does one need to hear that she found nothing wrong with how Biden ran the country? Detriot is resilient we have a mayor who is no-nonsense, and promotes bringing in big business, and hard-on crime, we have no problem with the homeless or migrants --- he is a true Republican in Democrat clothing.
And what is that based on, other than your opinion? Did it ever occur to you those cities, like most cities have good regions and bad regions? They are not monolithic in being crime ridden.
I don't refute your research but...
Moody's: In March 2024, Moody's upgraded Detroit's bond rating from Ba1 to Baa2, which is the first time the city has been rated investment grade since 2009. Moody's cited several reasons for the upgrade, including Detroit's strong financial performance, governance practices, and tax base.
Detroit looks to have made good progress and many say is not the city it once was even 10 years ago. Why can't Trump acknowledge that? Why are they held up to scorn and ridicule instead of praise? Even as a model to others? His comments actually hurt the city's recovery process. When people hear his comments they won't be interested in visiting. His comments are irresponsible and misguided.
I'm not a fan of kicking when the opposition is down but I really despise kicks delivered as one is trying to get up. Praise and encouragement are needed.
It's tiresome hearing him trash our country continually.
https://detroitmi.gov/news/historic-mil … are-double
Trump's problem is he knows he lost the election fair and square. He just can't accept losing and that makes him his own worst enemy. Talk about the enemy from within..!!!.
Again, you are not only cherry picking, you are trying to state how the audience reacted. Of course they are going to react positively to Trump that is why they are there in the first place. He knew they were all pumped up and ready to fight and riot. He didn't have to say it.
He covered his a**s by saying, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” Here is the actual transcript of his speech to the audience.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/96639684 … ment-trial
Yes, he always said exactly what he meant. Unfortunately, some didn’t appreciate that he aimed to avoid panic—knowing full well that panic never helps any situation. But some people are only wired to hear the words without truly understanding their meaning. They choose to ignore everything he accomplished, focusing instead on fueling their hatred over a single sentence. I often feel a sense of pity for those like this, recognizing the absence of an essential part of intelligence in their perspective.
He didn’t tell anyone to downplay anything. I believe he respected our intelligence enough to know we could see the reality of the pandemic, which was claiming American lives. Personally, I’d feel foolish if I thought I needed someone to point out what was right in front of me. We didn’t need left-wing alarmists panicking and getting overly worked up. He was dealing with a crisis that required everyone to stay calm. Do you realize you have a habit of fixating on Trump’s words without considering why he said what he did or the context behind it? My God, the majority of Americans could see the pandemic for what it was—we didn’t need anyone to tell us that. We heard daily death tolls, saw overflowing hospitals, and understood that Trump was doing everything humanly possible to tackle the problems. That’s what I saw. But for some, actions mean nothing—just a few words carry more weight.
I'm a straightforward person, (and thank God for freedom of speech) and I'll openly admit that I have no respect for anyone who latches onto a word or two, feels they need someone to tell them what’s right in front of their eyes, and ignores the actions, the deeds, that were just as clear to see.Again you are talking about what Trump did and said after he got on board with Covid, not when he was trying to down play it. You are a person who interprets what you think Trump means. You see his glass half full.
I see him for what I think he is and I see his glass half empty and his words don't need any interpretation. He says what he means at that time he says it, not after when he has to clean up what he says. If he is such a great communicator, why do his words need interpretation?"He says what he means at that time he says it, not after when he has to clean up what he says. If he is such a great communicator, why do his words need interpretation?".
What's so funny is that Trump almost never reverses what he said or goes back to clean it up. He almost always doubles down. It's the followers who interpret for him, sane wash what he's said. He never buys it though, even when the fox talking heads try to reinterpret him in real time he rejects it.
The followers will tell you they love that he says what he means but then proceed to tell you what he really means...LOL
My post was in response to your question.
But...
"I do not intend to debate the bill that was shot down, it was nothing but a bigger invitation for migrants to come on down."
Which part of the bill was an invitation?The 2023 immigration bill raised several concerns that I as well as critics argued could be interpreted as inviting more migrants to come to the U.S. One significant aspect was the inclusion of pathways to citizenship for certain undocumented immigrants, which critics believed might encourage more individuals to migrate with the hope of achieving legal status in the future. Additionally, the bill proposed expanding the number of work visas available, potentially attracting individuals seeking employment opportunities in the U.S. Another contentious provision involved family reunification, as the bill aimed to expedite the process for U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents to sponsor family members more quickly, thereby encouraging migration for family connections.
The bill also included provisions aimed at streamlining the asylum process, which some perceived as an invitation for more migrants to seek asylum in the U.S., suggesting a more open stance toward asylum seekers. Furthermore, it sought to expand Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for certain countries facing crises, leading to perceptions that individuals from those nations might be welcomed in the U.S. Lastly, the introduction of community-based sponsorship programs could foster a more welcoming environment for migrants, indicating that local communities are prepared to support newcomers. These provisions collectively contributed to concerns that the bill might inadvertently create a perception of the U.S. as more inviting to migrants, potentially leading to increased attempts to enter the country. While supporters of the bill argued that these measures were necessary for effective immigration reform, critics contended that they could encourage further migration.
I also want to remind you that we've gone back and forth on these bills in the past. I have no intention of repeating myself on this topic again. It’s clear you feel the bill was satisfactory, while I believe it was poor and would cause more problems than we currently have.
Let me remind you, Biden was ready to sign a bi-partisan bill that both sides approved of. Then Trump comes along as a civilian and tells congress to kill the bill.
Why, because it would make Biden look good when Trump thought Biden was going to run for another term. Instead Harris was nominated and it threw Trump for a loop. He had to re-tool his whole campaign strategy. The timing was perfect.
Exactly, you don't care and therein is the problem. I give you unadulterated facts and you only reply with unsubstantiated assertions and projections that are strictly your biased opinion.
This caught my eye... "I don't want him anywhere near the nuclear button."
Are you aware that Iran is reportedly just weeks away from having its first nuclear weapon? Both Obama and Trump implemented what they believed were solutions to curb Iran's nuclear program and kept it somewhat restrained. In contrast, Biden has done nothing but look the other way, allowing them to drill for oil and become quite wealthy. And now, surprise—they're on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon.
I think you need to take a deeper dive with your eyes open before choosing whose finger is on the nuclear button--- or should I say off the button?
I'm glad you brought this up; the media has been falling short in reporting just how close Iran is to developing its first nuclear weapon. We all know they would use it. As Ken has been saying, we need to prepare for the possibility of the first nuclear war. Now more than ever in our history we need strength back in the White House. I can only suggest, take some time, and do some true research on what is going on in the world --- besides what Trump said today.
We get it!! Kamala was sprung on ya'll, and you all have to defend that truth... and her! But you can't, so, instead, we get these "forum discussions" over and over, one after the other, Trump-bashing. We are on a loop, apparently, back to this one again!
Shame on your Party for expecting such loyalty from you all, when it should be the other way around.
It's always been about Trump's character. And it's always been about ours.
Speaking of character, one more example of the incompetence and lack of empathy and concern of this corrupt administration, vs those who are trying hard to save America from the horrible fate those in this Administration are leading it to:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zNNzDcU9ZCALet's follow up on that..
Pete Buttigieg responded to Musk on x...
"No one is shutting down the airspace and FAA doesn’t block legitimate rescue and recovery flights. If you’re encountering a problem give me a call,” Buttigieg wrote.
So then what happened?
Pete continued...
'The FAA was not closing down any airspace, but there was an issue with pilots who were helping get Starlink equipment to where it needed to be," he said. "Having the right information, we worked with local authorities, and we were able to take care of it."
Buttigieg added that he wanted to explain how the FAA's temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) work, given the "confusion and even misinformation" about them.
"This is a process that has been in place for decades, and basically what happens is, if you have a disaster area, there's a lot of rescue operations going on. A local airport, or fire department, or the Coast Guard flying helicopters, somebody like that, can request what's called a TFR. It doesn't shut down the airspace, but it increases the level of coordination that goes on because you want to make sure that that airspace is safe and that you prevent the risk of collisions. And so when you hear that term, that's what's going on."
Having Good Samaritans with pilots licenses pitch in is a "great thing," he added, "it's just important that they coordinate and make sure that it's safe."
Wow, pretty simple.
Buttigieg continued...
"He called. We had a conversation."
@SecretaryPete confirms phone call with Elon Musk after fact-checking him online, saying: "I've been amazed at how a little kernel of some detail gets blown up on the internet into something that it's not."
https://www.pcmag.com/news/buttigieg-pu … ries-in-ncKen. Thanks for bringing up Elon---- He is all over Pennsylvania this weekend campaigning for Trump! He is quite the fellow, and I admire him.
I appreciate the chance to highlight some of the charitable things Elon Musk has done. One of his notable efforts is through the Musk Foundation, which focuses on renewable energy, space exploration, and science education. He has donated significant funds to support clean water access, disaster relief efforts, and educational programs.
I find it impressive that Musk has pledged $100 million toward a prize for the best carbon capture technology, showcasing his dedication to fighting climate change. He has also supported organizations like The Sierra Club and Doctors Without Borders, contributing to their important work in environmental conservation and humanitarian aid.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, I admired Musk’s decision to donate ventilators to hospitals and pledge to produce and distribute personal protective equipment (PPE) for healthcare workers. His companies, including Tesla and SpaceX, stepped up to support relief efforts in affected areas.
Additionally, I appreciate Musk's support for education, as he has funded initiatives that promote science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) learning. His contributions to scholarships and programs aimed at helping underprivileged students access quality education demonstrate a commitment to improving lives.
Overall, while Musk's philanthropic efforts may sometimes be overshadowed by his business ventures and public persona, I believe his charitable contributions reflect a genuine commitment to addressing critical issues. I am glad he is helping more see that we need to rid ourselves of what we see in Washington today.Yup, and the Biden-Harris Administration has persecuted him from day 1.
When they had their EV day, when they called all the Auto manufacturers to participate, except Tesla.
How the Biden-Harris government desperately need Space X and Starlink for various military efforts, like their Ukraine war, yet they sick the DOJ on Musk's companies to slow them and cost them money everywhere they can.
Musk knows that if those in power remain... his companies and his fortunes will be targeted and confiscated because he stood up against them, and the much more powerful 'Donor Class'.
This is must watch Elon right here:
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1847093248348524703
Donald Trump has BECOME... Rocky Balboa...
America's Rocky Balboa...
And the Democrats... in particular the corrupt cabal running the Administration the last 4 years... made him into Rocky.
The hundreds? Thousands of cases brought against him and how outrageous some of the charges were, let alone the resulting judgements... some of which had to be expedited to the Supreme Court to fix before something totally derailing our election process resulted.
The FBI raids, the 9 years... 9 years!!! of non-stop mindnumbing accusations by the media that he is a Russian puppet, or a KKK member or a Traitor to the country... or that he will use the court system to persecute his political rivals... or that he would start a nuclear war...
Yeah... in so many ways Trump isn't just Rocky Balboa...
Trump has become that group of men that stand up and give the finger to King George...He is incredibly dedicated to our nation, and I’ve never witnessed such a level of commitment before. He will fight, and regardless of the outcome, he’s a total winner in my eyes. The bravery it takes for him to go out in public is remarkable; he must be aware that he could become a target again. He’s courageous and steadfast in his convictions. If he wins, we know his opponents will come back at him even stronger. He’s doing his best to expose the ugly workings of the Washington machine. I’m pulling for him, and as I mentioned some time ago, I hope more Americans realize what this group is trying to do. I still believe that most Americans are smarter than the Dems are giving them credit for.
Yeah, I can't imagine... in a country where the tragedy of the Kennedy Family still echo in our society and politics...
To risk not just his own life, but his family, which when you dig into his background at all, you realize mean so much to him... and they are all good people... not crack heads... not pedophiles...
I don't think I could do it... its Captain America level devotion to his Country...
To have Billions... to have already been President... to be set for life...
And to come back and keep fighting this pit of vipers...
That is HEAVY...
YES!! I was already loving the Rocky Balboa comparison, then you took it to another level Ken.
"Trump has become that group of men that stand up and give the finger to King George..."
And we have his back!
Fired Up!!
I try to watch the re-enactment of the fiery speech by Patrick Henry every year. Hard to believe we are coming up on the 250th Anniversay!
https://youtu.be/DbghWFMLyiA?si=6jMEdcVUAkiyXenQThis one may be even more fitting...
"A Time For Choosing" - Ronald Reagan 1964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8_QuqquVAYVery familiar with it. In fact, I used it in my latest article.
Such a great speech!!I think we can all agree, Ken, that we have been weakened from within. As the saying goes, 'We will take America without firing a shot... We won’t need to invade; we will destroy you from within.' It's clear that some have had the patience to play the long game. Ronald Reagan was a man of unwavering common sense, unafraid to speak his mind. He was an eloquent leader who could make Americans pause and listen because of the clarity and practicality of his words. I can only imagine what he would say today. Reagan had a keen sense of identifying internal threats and keeping them in check. Republicans haven’t had a leader with his strength—until now. "It's a time for choosing" Stepping out and hearing common sense, and recognizing we have a very great enemy within.
I think we can all agree, Ken, that we have been weakened from within. As the saying goes, 'We will take America without firing a shot... We won’t need to invade; we will destroy you from within.' It's clear that some have had the patience to play the long game.
Sorry to say, but I think you have all drunk Trump's Kool Aid. Are you better off now then you before? The market is at an all time high, The interest rates are at an all time low and so is inflation. The groceries and gas are high because of greed from price gouging corporations. But supply and demand should take care of that over the long run..
Presidents really don't have that much sway over the economy. It's the Fed's and natural order of business cycles. Trump likes to boast about his economy, but he came in on the shirt tails of Obama's economy."Presidents really don't have that much sway over the economy. It's the Fed's and natural order of business cycles."
Trump (his advisors really) prey upon folks who don't understand how government works. They don't understand the role of each branch of the government. Those who believe that a president is akin to the monarchs of history. He needs only to make a proclamation, wave a magic wand and it is fulfilled.
Trump....
"I love the poorly educated".
What Would Reagan Do?
Common sense?
it might be helpful to remember that in 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a sweeping immigration reform bill into law. The bill, the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. made any immigrant who'd entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty..He called for the millions of undocumented “illegal immigrants” present in the country to be given recognition and a path to legal status... He would be absolutely crucified for this today.
"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," he said. GASP
Anyone remember his debate with Bush?
Reagan and Bush portrayed a radically different stance on immigration from Republicans today. While answering a question on undocumented immigration, for instance, Reagan responded by stating,
“Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit.” Fences will not solve unauthorized immigration; recognizing the issue with neighboring countries and providing legal pathways for people will.....
Downright liberal? Or a man with common sense?I am settling to the point where I have to recognize that anyone that does not support Trump must, by default, hate America, hate any who support America, and there is no reasoning with them...
Either because they are fanatics whose ability to rationalize and see reality has been completely swept away by the likes of MSNBC programming...
Or because they know exactly what is going on, and they want the destruction of our nation as they know it. The facts and truth have been out there for a while now... 4 years for sure... and the results are now undeniable.
A walk down memory lane:
This is an invasion of our country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuH3x_TR4pc
What we learned from 'The Twitter Files'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX5U5buUEvk
Lies about Jan. 6 have been relentless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1KGCPMrJo
Biden trusts Beijing more than he trusts you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZJftHe7byo
Here is the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPg9N_HiLMg
OK, don't like the news of the past, or who delivered it... lets try where we are today:
US investigating leak of Israeli attack plans for Iran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_TBI7fet5A
Biden, Starmer discuss letting Ukraine use Western missiles in Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYtDCrzalog
Hormone therapy for trans kids supported at ‘highest-levels’ of Biden admin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwdUeBiDvGI
From destroying America's children and ruining their lives, making them incapable of being productive adults ... instead of knowing Math and English they will know what proper pronouns to use and all 72 sexes...
To alienating long term ally nations, warring against others and moving the world into a position where WWIII is almost unavoidable now...
To spending Trillions of dollars on things that will only further poison our lands and bring hardships to millions...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llcvrKDJRo0
Trillions of taxpayer debt given out by Biden and Harris to the 'Donor Class' and non-Americans... a burden of debt placed on ALL American Citizens... a burden of Inflation...
All this and more, will only be compounded and added on to by a Harris Administration... we will all suffer its hardships, those who see the reality as well as those who do not.You had me at 'I am coming to the point where I have to recognize that anyone who does not support Trump must, by default, hate America and those who support it, and that there is no reasoning with them...'
Thank you for your thorough and insightful research; it certainly made an impact on me. I’ve realized it’s time for me to step back from some that I have been communicating with. Those who seem to lack common sense. It appears I will narrow down my comments to just a few at this point. But, I enjoy HP, and hopefully, we can keep the lights on."You had me at 'I am coming to the point where I have to recognize that anyone who does not support Trump must, by default, hate America and those who support it, and that there is no reasoning with them"'
So therefore anyone who does not support Biden and Harris by default hates America and those who support it, and that there is no reasoning with them.
So I lack common sense, because I don't support Trump, Thanks for the insult. I can say the same thing about you and Biden and Harris, but I'm not going to."You had me at 'I am coming to the point where I have to recognize that anyone who does not support Trump must, by default, hate America and those who support it, and that there is no reasoning with them"
At this point, I fully agree. Hopefully, time will change my view.
"So therefore anyone who does not support Biden and Harris by default hates America and those who support it, and that there is no reasoning with them."
Yes, some don’t seem to appreciate America as I know it—an ongoing democracy. I did share this view with Ken, and I’ve come to realize it’s time for me to step back from communicating with certain people, especially those who seem to lack common sense. I try to be honest and direct. To me, anyone who supports Harris, as they did Biden—a man who has left the country in a mess—lacks that common sense. Biden will leave behind serious problems that could take decades to fix. You've strongly supported both Biden and now Harris, and in light of everything we’ve lived through, I find that kind of support lacking in good judgment. That's my truthFor the life of me, I can't understand how anybody can support a convicted felon who has lied over 30,000 documented times, who can't accept losing an election and is a sociopathic, narcissistic, master con-artist who only likes people who like and admire him.
It literally turns my stomach. Now Musk is given away 1 million a day to people who support Trump. He is playing Trump like a violin. Musk is all about electric vehicles. Trump is about drill baby drill and the golden juice under the ground.
Now he likes Musk because he thinks Musk admires him. That's how shallow the man that you want to be president is.. His con is to attack and then play the victim right after the attack. I resent you implying I'm stupid and hate America, just because I don't support Trump.
I mean, you gotta give the guy some credit...
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/18 … 0570969490
https://x.com/overton_news/status/1848070358668075454
He's a machine... he's at ten different places a day, interviews, ops, rallies...
Every time they bring Harris out of the basement, it blows up on them.Trump is truly taking it to the people nonstop! It was hilarious to see him making French fries while referencing the drive-thru—such a funny moment.
Musk is also out there engaging with people all the time. It's hard not to appreciate it. Trump will be at the Jets game tonight to wrap up his day. I wonder if Elon will join him. He had a town hall in Pittsburgh this afternoon, so there's a chance he could show up at the game with his buddy Trump.
I have to say, I'm really enjoying this kind of campaign that prioritizes connecting with the public. It's refreshing to see such determination! It brings back some of the fun that elections used to have years ago.Ken, You are full of more sh*t than a Christmas turkey..
You clearly haven't looked at her schedule and Trump has canceled a slew of interviews and cut others short.
Trump runs from morning to night. The media is just not covering her much.
At any rate, I am pleased with the polls. The Hill -- Former President Trump on Sunday overtook Vice President Harris for the first time in the Decision Desk HQ/The Hill election forecast this cycle.
The model predicts Trump has a 52 percent chance of winning the presidency while Harris has a 42 percent chance, as of Sunday.
Since late August, the election forecast put Harris’s chances of winning at approximately 54 to 56 percent, with Trump’s chances at approximately 44 to 46 percent. In early October, however, those dynamics began to shift, and the election forecast predicted both candidates’ chances to be closer to 50 percent. Yikes
What Trump was saying was that the people who follow him are so deficient in character that it doesn't matter to them what he does.
In the years since he said that, he has been proved to have stated the truth.And yet... Elon Musk stands behind him.
"Elon Musk: I Am Literally Risking EVERYTHING To Share This With You..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqX3pAr6B9Q
RFK Jr stands behind him
RFK Jr. says he's supporting Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_DlMAjIXc
Tulsi Gabbard stands behind him
Why You Must Vote For Donald Trump This Election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL34w5aMx4s
There is far more at stake than having a President that says things that you don't like to hear... or in ways you find offensive... because the alternative will do a lot more than hurt your feelings with improper verbiage.I am not even going to open the links to even dignify who you have listed to stand behind Trump. They are all Trump supporters. RFK Jr. is Koo Koo for Coco Puffs. Tulsi Gabbard is a turn coat, and Musk is playing Trump like a violin.
Musk is all about electric vehicles and Trump is all about oil and drill baby drill. Where do you think that is going? Trump loves the admiration he gets from people like Musk because he is a sick puppy who grew up without any love from his parents. That's why he is a narcissist according to his clinical psychologist niece. I read her book. What a screwed up childhood that man had!"Musk is all about electric vehicles and Trump is all about oil and drill baby drill. Where do you think that is going?"
What's the problem with that? Do you think gasoline is the only use for crude oil? If every car in the country suddenly grew a battery and electric motor we would still need vast quantities of oil.Wilderness:
These are for your dining and dancing pleasure.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic … d-jd-vance
https://qz.com/donald-trump-electric-ca … 1851598561Trump has expressed the need for EVs, as well as gas-engine cars. He does not go to the extreme of promoting only EVs
As of now, Tesla generally offers some of the most competitively low-priced electric vehicles (EVs) in terms of features and performance. Built here in the good old USA. He is striving to make his EV the very best on the market. And I think one can consider his genius will bring great results. In my view, Trump has hooked himself to the right wagon.
"And yet... Elon Musk stands behind him."
I rest my case.
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