What it is all about. Project 2025. Have you heard of it?

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   tsmogposted 14 months ago

   “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
   ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
   
   
   Sometimes it is time to move past (Or, is it passed?) all the dis and mis~information and get to the brass tacks of the big plan for a new change. First, what does a new change mean? I don't know, go for it with your own meaning.
   
   Project 2025 is:
   
   "It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.
   
   This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."
   
   More about Project 2025:
   https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/
   
   Project 2025 Presidential Transition Project
   https://www.project2025.org/
   
   Project 2025 Advisory Board. See all the players on the team!
   https://www.project2025.org/about/advisory-board/
   
   What are the Four Pillars for their foundation?
   
   Pillar I—this volume—puts in one place a consensus view of how major
   federal agencies must be governed and where disagreement exists brackets
   out these differences for the next President to choose a path.
   
   Pillar II is a personnel database that allows candidates to build their own
   professional profiles and our coalition members to review and voice their
   recommendations. These recommendations will then be collated and shared
   with the President-elect’s team, greatly streamlining the appointment process.
   
   Pillar III is the Presidential Administration Academy, an online
   educational system taught by experts from our coalition. For the newcomer,
   this will explain how the government functions and how to function in
   government. For the experienced, we will host in-person seminars with
   advanced training and set the bar for what is expected of senior leadership.
   
   In Pillar IV—the Playbook—we are forming agency teams and drafting tran-
   sition plans to move out upon the President’s utterance of “so help me God.”
   
   The Big Playbook titled Mandate for Leadership ~ The Conservative Promise
   887 pages of riveting information certainly promising not a cup of coffee's worth of reading, but much more than a six pack.
   
   https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/proj … p_FULL.pdf
   
   Enough of the I know what is happening speeches. See what it really is. Have fun exploring!

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   IslandBitesposted 14 months ago

   
   
   Fun? Not so much.

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   tsmogposted 10 months ago

   Just for giggles, the take on Project 2025 by the Onion
   
   Highlights From The Heritage Foundation’s ‘Project 2025’ (July 8, 2024)
   https://www.theonion.com/highlights-fro … 2024-07-10
   
   "Several high-ranking members of Donald Trump’s former administration recently released a stunning, highly detailed document outlining how they would overhaul the federal government should he be reelected president. The following are the biggest takeaways from the Heritage Foundation’s 922-page political playbook designed to bolster Trump’s power."
   
   Immigration through Ticketmaster: By privatizing immigration, it ensures all immigrants pay the service fee, order processing fee, and the occasional surge pricing fees.
   
   Dog militia: Every dog will receive a firearm to defend their country from tyrannical oppression.
   
   A must-try pesto recipe: Included on page 635 of the manifesto is a step-by-step guide for recreating Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts’ irresistible family pasta sauce.
   
   Official designation of the president as “America’s dad”: Project 2025 includes a chart showing the proposed family tree of the country, which would make Donald Trump the dad and all Americans his kids.
   
   Replace 30,000 federal employees with Eric Trump: He’ll run the Departments of Energy, Interior, and Labor while the Defense and the Joint Chiefs will be replaced by Tiffany.
   
   Mandatory embassy status for every McDonald’s: All franchises would be extraterritorial, sovereign lands of the United States of America, regardless of location.
   
   Bring back Gulags: But with a more American sounding name.
   
   What does the Daily Kos say?
   
   Trump's Project 2025 is now being searched in Google more than Taylor Swift and the NFL
   https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7 … nd-the-NFL
   
   "Not that many appear to be looking up stuff on Biden’s age — but lot of people are paying attention to Project 2025 and Trump.  It seems that people are already aware that Biden is damned old, and their response to the media’s cries have been, “No sh#t, Sherlock, but what’s this 2025 thing?”

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   Valeantposted 10 months ago

   I saw a meme at Facebook that said Donald Trump's name appears 312 times in Project 2025.  Not sure of its validity, but I could imagine it.

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      IslandBitesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      "Trump" make it 213.

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   Credence2posted 10 months ago

   Trump lies in his attempt to deny his association with  "the agenda". His right wing cronies did not go to the trouble to create a custom new suit that Trump had never intended to wear.

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      wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Outside of assumptions based on massive dislike of anything Republican or conservative, what can you offer to support that opinion?  Do you have secret emails?  Taped phone calls?  Recorded conversations?

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         IslandBitesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

         Trump at a Heritage Foundation event 2022
         
         “This is a great group & they’re going to lay the groundwork & detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America."
         
         "Already we have shown the power of our winning formula, working closely with many of the great people at Heritage over the four incredible years that we’ve worked with you a lot and we were just discussing it with Kevin...They’re going to work on some other things that are going to be very exciting, I think, Kevin, I think maybe the most exciting of all.”

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            wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            The question involved a "formula" that Trump was not involved in, not one that he worked on.

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            Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            No link to your source. 
            
            No way to tell what all was in the article.
            
            Just saying.

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         Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

         That is hard to digest from someone who never supports his positions beyond his own vaunted opinions. Trump is a natural tyrant and Agenda 2025 is a fitting roadmap that would fit him like a glove. So, don't start talking to me about about documenting things when you never do?....

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            wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            If you don't present opinions as fact there is no need for evidence.  Usually; sometimes it helps to provide the reasoning process, but only for those that can, and will, reason rather than assume.

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               Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

               Then, my comments are just my opinion and you have always had plenty of those.

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                  wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  I DO have opinions, and present them as such.  I try not to give opinions stated as fact and try to make the difference obvious.  More obvious than coming back later and saying "Well, that bald statement was only opinion, although I did not mention that little tidbit.".

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   Valeantposted 10 months ago

   Well, that wasn't hard to disprove that it's not massive dislike of anything Republican or conservative, but the man's own words of support as the association.  Wouldn't it be great if someone could learn how to use Google before asking for the obvious?

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   Readmikenowposted 10 months ago

   Despite that, Trump said on his Truth Social platform that he knows “nothing about Project 2025.”
   
   “I have no idea who is behind it,” he wrote Friday. “I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”
   
   In a statement posted to X, Project 2025 emphasized it was independent from the Trump campaign.
   
   “As we’ve been saying for more than two years now, Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign,” the statement said, noting the project represents more than 110 conservative groups planning for the next GOP president. “But it is ultimately up to that president, who we believe will be President Trump, to decide which recommendations to implement.”
   
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … disavowal/

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      IslandBitesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Yup. He lied. Again.

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         Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

         You have no proof only conjecture.

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            tsmogposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            Trump has been connected to the Heritage Foundation since he was elected president.
            
            A 2018 Heritage Foundation published article . . .
            
            Trump Administration Embraces Heritage Foundation Policy Recommendations by the Heritage Foundation (Jan 23, 2018)
            https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-a … mendations
            
            "One year after taking office, President Donald Trump and his administration have embraced nearly two-thirds of the policy recommendations from The Heritage Foundation’s “Mandate for Leadership.”
            
            The “Mandate for Leadership” series includes five individual publications, totaling approximately 334 unique policy recommendations. Analysis completed by Heritage determined that 64 percent of the policy prescriptions were included in Trump’s budget, implemented through regulatory guidance, or under consideration for action in accordance with The Heritage Foundation’s original proposals."

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               abwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

               Good. At least one of the candidates is "connected".

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            IslandBitesposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            Proof? A MAGA?
            
            Go watch the video of his speech... Then you could say it was a double, or AI, the Globalists, Antifa o whatever excuse you prefer this time.

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               Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

               That is no proof of telling a lie.
               
               “I have no idea who is behind it,” he wrote Friday. “I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

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                  Willowarborposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Here you go.  In Trump's own slurring words... It's really worth a listen. LOL  he "knows nothing about it". The man is a pathological liar. By the way, what's with the slurred speech? Is he drunk, on drugs? Or he just can't understand the words on the prompter?
                  
                  "This is a great group & they’re going to lay the groundwork & detail plans for exactly what our movement will do ... when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America."
                  
                  https://x.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1811402883604050216
                  
                  Trump owns this garbage manifesto. I believe at this point 16 or 17 top economists have come forward to say that Trump's platform would be a disaster for our economy. Maybe you could provide some economists reports that feel the platform is positive?

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                     Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                     Sorry, this clip proves nothing.
                     
                     To know what was really being said you would have to hear much more.
                     
                     You really can't trust an news outlet like Axios.  These economists are ALL Democrats who donate to the biden campaign.  They could hardly be considered unbiased.
                     
                     "Axios omits crucial details about economists who say Trump will destroy the economy
                     One of the economists is married to a top Biden official and donated $25K to Biden Victory Fund
                     
                     "The letter’s Nobel Prize-winning signatories show political donations to President Biden's 2020 and 2024 campaigns. The signatories also donated tens of thousands of dollars to other Democrat candidates and signed previous letters supporting Biden's agenda,
                     
                     Economist Joseph Stiglitz, the Columbia University professor who reportedly spearheaded the letter, previously signed a letter supporting Biden’s Build Back Better agenda and donated $1,250 to the Biden Victory Fund in 2020.
                     
                     Between 2004 and 2020, Stiglitz donated over $90,000 to Democrat candidates, FEC records show.
                     
                     Georgetown University Professor George A. Akerlof, who is married to Biden’s Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, donated $25,000 to the Biden Victory Fund and maxed out as a donor in 2020, giving the campaign $5,600.
                     
                     Akerlof, who donated nearly $90,000 to Democrats between the 1990s and 2022, also signed a letter supporting Build Back Better, and signed a letter in 2020 calling Trump’s re-election effort "selfish and reckless."
                     
                     Harvard University economist and historian Claudia Goldin donated $500 to the Biden campaign in 2020 and 2024 and has donated over $8,000 to Democrats in recent years. Goldin also signed a 2020 letter endorsing the Biden campaign.
                     
                     Economist and mathematician Eric Maskin signed a 2020 letter expressing support for the Biden campaign’s agenda and donated $3,000 to Democrats in recent years, including Senate candidates Raphael Warnock, Beto O’Rourke and Jon Ossoff."
                     
                     https://www.foxnews.com/politics/axios- … oy-economy
                     
                     It is such a shame to see the democrat party believe its own lies and dwell in their own make-believe world.

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                        Willowarborposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                        The video shows the words coming from the horse's mouth?  Axios as nothing to do with it.  Again, which economists are supporting Trump's platform?
                        
                        
                        He clearly stated..
                        "This is a great group & they’re going to lay the groundwork & detail plans for exactly what our movement will do ... when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America."
                        
                        How does that mean anything but support for lHeritage?

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                           Readmikenowposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                           Gee, I think it would take seeing a bit more to know exactly what is being discussed.
                           
                           See, I like the details and don't simply determine things on emotion based on a snippet of a video and not facts.

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   Readmikenowposted 10 months ago

   TDS is a terrible thing.

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      Valeantposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Yeah, and in this case when presented with multiple instances of Trump backing the Heritage Foundation's policy, it's Trump Demagogue Syndrome.  Where someone believes anything Trump says despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. 
      
      Symptoms of TDS can be dangerous and cause the person suffering from it to attack their own government, resulting in death or long prison sentences.

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   Valeantposted 10 months ago

   Wall Street Journal, which leans heavily conservative these days, surveyed 50 top economists and they came to the same conclusions about Trump's policies being a bigger drag on the economy than Biden's. 
   
   It's such a shame to see Trump's MAGA faithful deny the opinions of so many experts.  But, when they are brainwashed to only trust one man, not really all that surprising.  The projection about dwelling in a make-believe world from someone who went to the Capitol on January 6th was also pretty comical.

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      wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      But there is a difference, a difference which makes a difference.
      
      Biden's (and most liberal) policies produce nothing in return; they are primarily giveaways, whether to Americans, illegal aliens, or foreign countries, without anything in return.  Charity.
      
      Trump's policies are mostly to Americans that then produce something in return.  The military, producing safety.  Border Patrol, producing fewer illegals entering.

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         Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

         Wilderness, that is the rightwingers difference, fortunately we don't all subscribe to that. You can continue to place Trump on a pedestal, but he is always a jerk in my book.

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         Valeantposted 10 months agoin reply to this

         'Biden's (and most liberal) policies produce nothing in return; they are primarily giveaways...'
         
         Another flat out lie that is in no way true.  The CHIPS Act - not a giveaway, but an investment in manufacturing that will produce thousands of jobs and let the country not be beholden to China in regards to semiconductors. The Infrastructure Bill has produced over 7,000 projects to upgrade crumbling infrastructure across the nation and which produced plenty of jobs (something Trump failed to pass in all four of his years despite recognizing the problem).  The first Gun Safety Bill in decades was not a 'giveaway.'
         
         What you believe about liberals and what is true are often vastly different.

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            wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            "Biden's (and most liberal) policies produce nothing in return; they are primarily giveaways..."
            
            "Trump's policies are mostly to Americans that then produce something in return."
            
            One instance does not policy make.  But I will reply to that mass boondoggle of an infrastructure package; the primary reason for nearly all of it is because the locals, owning that infrastructure, did not want to spend on it, instead they wait for handouts from the feds.  Had needed maintenance been done for the past 50 years we would not be in this situation.

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               Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

               They spent trillions...
               
               Its not about progressive ... or policy .... or liberal....
               
               They spent trillions they don't have.  That money went to Military Industrial Co that in turn hire former politicians and advisers etc. for 50 million dollar salaries to sit on their Boards... and Senators invest in their stocks just days before they get that billion dollar contract.
               
               They enrich themselves... all the while making Americans poorer... making the dollar worth less... making the future look darker.
               
               That's what the Biden Administration has been in Spades.
               
               Sewing chaos in the world. Sending billions to Iran and ending all of Trumps sanctions.  Pushing Zelensky to bang the drums of war to get Crimea back, refusing the idea of negotiations with Putin, demanding that NATO be allowed...
               
               They didn't save the economy... they robbed it...

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                  wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  And what do we have to show for those Trillions given to the military industry?  The thanks of Ukraine.  Nothing of material value, which is what I said - charity. 
                  
                  I wasn't referring to that wealth given to Ukraine and Israel, but it certainly adds a cap to that which is distributed elsewhere.

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