Why True Conservatives are Repulsed By Time Waltz
As a Conservative MAGA Republican, I can say there is not one single, solitary aspect of Time Waltz I find appealing. I’m not alone. Most conservatives I know are equally repulsed by him or are worse than myself. Waltz is as far left of a nut case as there is in existence.
He earned the nickname “Tampon Tim” by signing legislation putting tampons in boys bathrooms. I consider this absolutely ridiculous.
TAMPON TIM: Tim Walz forced Minnesota schools to stock tampons in boys' bathrooms so girls who think they're boys could access them
The legislation stated that “products must be available to all menstruating students” in 4 through 12 grades.
https://thepostmillennial.com/tampon-ti … 2021-02-02
His response to the BLM riots left hundreds of businesses burned, people killed an billions of dollars in damage. When the National Guard was mobilized, his daughter told the rioters where they were heading.
“The 60-year-old Democratic governor was accused by the Republican-controlled Minnesota Senate’s Joint Transportation and Judiciary and Public Safety Committee of delaying the deployment of the National Guard, failing to coordinate with local police, downplaying the possibility of riots and allowing his adult daughter to access confidential information about law enforcement movements that put first responders at risk during the four days of rioting that swept through the Twin Cities in the wake of George Floyd’s May 25, 2020, death in police custody.
Amid the riots, the governor’s daughter, Hope, appears to have tried to tip off the arsonists and looters that the National Guard was going to be slow to respond.”
https://nypost.com/2024/08/06/us-news/t … te-senate/
As a former Army officer, this one really makes me angry. He retired rather than be with is National Guard Battalion when they were deployed to a combat zone. Waltz abandoned his men right before they were going to war. Unforgiveable in my book.
“Tim Walz left National Guard battalion ‘hanging,’ ‘slithered out the door’ before Iraq deployment: vets
Veterans have accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz of “embellishing” his military career and abandoning his National Guard battalion, highlighting that the now-vice presidential pick for the Democrats never served in combat and retired from service ahead of his unit’s 2005 deployment to Iraq.”
https://nypost.com/2024/08/06/us-news/t … eployment/
He gives drivers licenses to illegal aliens as well as free college tuition.
“Tim Walz Progressive Agenda Included Giving Driver’s Licenses, Free Tuition to Illegal Immigrants
Since becoming governor in 2019, he has signed off on legislation to give numerous privileges to illegal immigrants, including access to state-funded health care and free college tuition.
He also approved legislation in 2023 to give driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/tim … mmigrants/
He is against parental rights and believes kids confused by their gender can go to Minnesota and get their drugs and have their healthy body parts removed.
“Tim Walz Signed Bill Making Minnesota a Sanctuary State for Child Sex-Changes
Newly minted vice presidential candidate Tim Walz signed a bill in April 2023 that made his state a sanctuary for child sex-changes, promoting tourism for such radical medical interventions in defiance of states that restrict them.
Dubbed the Trans Refuge Bill by supporters, the law grants legal protection to children who travel to Minnesota for so-called gender affirming care, including puberty blockers, reconstructive genital surgery, and hormone therapy, as well as the medical practitioners who provide it. The law prohibits Minnesota courts or officials from complying with child removal requests, extraditions, arrests, or subpoenas related to a child’s sex-change procedures received in Minnesota, even if they’re a crime in another state.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/tim … x-changes/
Tim Waltz is considered both disgusting and repulsive by any true conservative.Your closing needs some help: "true conservative should be replaced by 'true MAGA Republican.' They are different things.
GAMike, we are Democrats. We’re not here to attract hard core conservatives and we don’t expect to get any other support in any meaningful way Especially the MAGA type
I agree. However, there are those on your side of the isle who like to portray waltz as a moderate who will attract the conservative part of the democrat base.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
I know many democrats who are quite upset by this ticket. Many don't like how Kamala didn't get a single primary vote for president and yet she is representing the party in the presidential race.
Trust me when I tell you, waltz is not a middle-of-the road guy who will attract conservatives. He won't.But there are just as many or more Democrats that would be content with the ticket, because as far as we concerned Republican-MAGA would take issue with any choice Harris would make. I am satisfied with the balance. But, it is almost expected that you folks wouldn't be. The candidate is the least contentious among the various factions of the party.
Harris has got the entire party behind her in an overwhelming fashion, so why rock the boat? We could not afford to not have a rapid replacement for President Biden, and I don't want to see Trump darken my door ever again.
We will see how well he does with moderates and independents just like the talk that Blacks are moving toward Trump. No, they are coming home.Among the many problems withe the democrats VP pick is how Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania was snubbed.
Many believe it was because he was Jewish. The democrat party has a problem with the antisemitism within its ranks and among its supporters.
He would have had a stronger appeal to people on the right. Walz has NO appeal to people on the right. This will be a necessary component in winning the election.
This could have been a huge error on the part of the democrats.We are not just trying to attract those on the Right who for the most part are in another universe. We have to appeal to much our base just like Trump does his with his racist diatribe and inappropriate remarks. There is no such thing as NO appeal, all of this is subjective. I don't care about hard core Rightwingers as they are incorrigible, but many lesser hidebound conservatives types who loath Trump and are open to alternatives may be reached, although it is not guaranteed.
It is only rightwing propaganda that is painting Harris as anti-Semitic because Shipiro was not selected. If one actually took the time to dig beneath the surface, the hardline pro-Israel stance conflicts with those who want Palestinians interests considered in the region, not necessarily supporting Hamas. Harris has a Jewish husband, a hard position to be in if you are anti-Semitic.
Harris' moves were strategic in getting as many of the Democrat factions on board as possible, I would have done the same if I were in her shoes."racist diatribe"
I'd love you to provide some proof of that accusation. There are none.
I never said harris was an antisemite, but the democrat party. A party that does have the perception of being antisemitic. This is a fact.
"But now the Democratic Party has an antisemitism problem on its left flank, and its tune has changed a bit. Leftist professional organizers have mobilized student groups and mobs elsewhere to attack, harass and obstruct the free movement of Jews — all of which are crimes.
Many openly support Hamas and the October 7 civilian massacre, calling for the destruction of Israel and for the repatriation of Jews to places like Poland. One student leader at Columbia asserted that “Zionists don’t deserve to live” in a livestream video. (University officials took no disciplinary action until the video was widely publicized.)
Of course, the spike of over 8,873 antisemitic incidents of assault, harassment and vandalism in 2023 — a 140 percent increase from the previous year — was somewhat predictable.
Numerous progressive groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (which counts among its supporters Democrats in Congress) and local chapters of Black Lives Matter celebrated Hamas’s genocidal attack as an act of liberation. A progressive Columbia professor called the attack “awesome”; one at Cornell was “exhilarated”; a Stanford instructor segregated Jewish students in an apparent slander of Israelis for being imagined “colonizers.” Democrats have largely looked the other way and declined to namecheck any of these bigotries."
https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-right … isemitism/Trump's comments at the blacks journalist meeting, we all said was reminiscent of the kinds of thing Archie Bunker used to say. But, I can guess you probably have a MAGA excuse to shroud the stupidity of his remarks at that gathering. That is how the Black Community saw this and no manner of spin can change that.
You conservatives are tying all this together, this liberal progressive has no affinity for Hamas, but does not allow Netanyahu, the Beast of the Middle East, license to use the Hamas attacks to wipe out the Palestinians aspirations in the region.
Not everybody is as dumb as conservatives would like to believe.
A held perception does not make it a fact.What are the Palestinians' "aspirations in the region?"
You dodged my question on the other thread, so I will let you google for yourself the answer to your question.
"The stated goal of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad is to conquer Israel and replace it with an Islamist state. Both groups reject the Oslo Accords and other plans for peace with Israel."
Palestinians are fighting a loosing battle if they think there is still the possibility of a two state solution.
Its the consequence of letting Hamas take over.Perhaps you are right at this point...
"Israel has faced surging international criticism — from its Western allies, from the international justice system, from protesters around the world — over its conduct during the war. That has deepened Israel’s global isolation, brought accusations that it is committing genocide against Palestinians and driven the prosecutor at the International Criminal Court to seek the arrests of Israeli leaders."
I cannot ignore the concerns expressed by so many others that there is a certain barbarous nature to Netanyahu's approach, while he uses the Hamas subjugation as an excuse. ICC are not the sort of body one wants to toy with."ICC are not the sort of body one wants to toy with."
Nobody pays any attention. They have no enforcement mechanism. They've had an arrest warrant for putin for many years. Nothing has come of it and nothing will.
"Trump's comments at the blacks journalist meeting"
You're going to have to be more specific. There were many black journalists who believed President Donald Trump handled the situation perfectly. He was shamelessly verbally attacked and fought back.
It was a setup. President Donald Trump went to a place and gave his time. They were 35 minutes late. He was told Kamala would be there and she wasn't.
He was completely and totally disrespected. This said more bad things about this organization than it did about President Donald Trump.Ok, Mike, I will try to be more specific. First of all, I will give Trump credit for showing up as a Republican where angels would fear to tread. But, I give him my backhand for failure to properly prepare for the kinds of questions that he would be asked in such a gathering. This winging it stuff and speaking off the cuff, wasn't going to do.
Trump attacks Harris’ identity: ‘Is she Indian or is she Black?’
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What does her ethnicity have to do with her qualifications? It was an irrelevant and stupid thing to say amongst an audience of people of color. Her background clearly supports that she is part of both.
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Right after Trump shook Scott’s hand and took a seat on stage, he lashed out at her for asking the first question of the panel: Why Black voters should trust the former president when he has used language such as “animal,” “rabid” and “loser” to describe Black politicians and journalists.
“Well, first of all, I don’t think I’ve ever been asked a question in such a horrible manner, the first question. You don’t even say, ‘Hello. How are you?’” Trump said. “Are you with ABC? Because I think they’re a fake news network, a terrible network.”
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It is a valid question, he could have simply denied that he said such things or asked for specific examples in challenge, but dismissing the question and blaming the moderator for asking it entirely was puerile on his part and incriminated him for saying just what the moderator accused him of saying. Nobody asked for his opinion regarding ABC.
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Trump says undocumented immigrants are ‘taking Black jobs’
A Black job is anybody that has a job, that’s what it is,” Trump responded, before saying of undocumented immigrants: “They’re taking the employment away from Black people.”
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Logic dictates that I learn just what kinds of jobs undocumented migrants get?
Although unauthorized immigrants made up 5% of the nation’s civilian workforce in 2014, they accounted for a much higher share (26%) of the workers in farming occupations. Unauthorized immigrants also were 15% of workers in construction jobs in 2014. U.S.-born workers accounted for a majority of workers in all major occupation groups, including 54% of the farming workforce in 2014 and 73% of the construction workforce. Only in construction jobs and farming jobs do unauthorized immigrant workers outnumber lawful immigrant workers (15% vs. 12%, and 26% vs. 20%). (See the table here for data on workers’ status by major occupation.)
What appears to be most evident are that the jobs that these undocumented get are fundamentally blue collar jobs. While construction industry jobs are hardly subpar, why focus on Black jobs instead of these undocumented taking jobs from American citizens in general? Are "Black Jobs" defined as exclusively Blue collar? Is this why he referrred to them as Black jobs? I would think that ex US President Barack Obama would have something to say about that. Trump's explanation was a non-answer.
I don't think he was set up, he in his classic style was unprepared to answer specific questions that he and his handler should have well known were coming."What does her ethnicity have to do with her qualifications?"
The point here is that harris tries to be all things to all people. She is only black when she is speaking to a black audience. She never mentions her Indian heritage. She goes on shows with Indians and proclaims her Indian heritage, not her black heritage. There is more than one headline of her being the first "Indian" attorney general and during the article she never mentions she is black. She should be proud of both and mention both equally.
"Right after Trump shook Scott’s hand and took a seat on stage, he lashed out at her for asking the first question of the panel"
It wasn't a valid question. He didn't have to be there. He was showing them respect. They were late and he stayed. harris did go to the event like she promised. She showed them a lot of disrespect. More than one journalist said it was very disrespectful and unprofessional.
"Trump says undocumented immigrants are ‘taking Black jobs’"
Actually he said they are taking everybody's jobs and they are taking Black jobs.
What illegal immigrants do is let big corporations cheat workers. They bring down the wages because they work cheaper and are often paid in cash with no taxes taken. They are hurting the United States.
They should all be deported and every one of these companies should pay significant fines. They should all be forced to used documents workers. I lived in California and every year there were families who told me about the guest worker program. They come from Mexico or South America, they work during the season, pay their taxes, are here legally and go home when it's over until the next season.
Illegal immigrants are hurting these people who want to come here and work legally.
I really believe a massive deportation program is going to be necessary.
"I don't think he was set up"
I do, because harris not being there should have been the very first topic discussed. That is something that should have been explained to the audience. President Donald Trump went there with the understanding he would be able to have a discussion with his political opponent. He didn't go there to be disrespected.Mike, every candidate tries to be all things to all people to gather votes.
It is funny how the racial calculus works in this society. We have to dissect Harris' ethnicity background. I never see white men having to do that.
Who is Trump and MAGA to evaluate her on a diverse ethnic background? I think that there are not any grounds for debate or discussion regarding this matter. She is Kamala Harris, with more than enough qualifications for the job, along with the right temperament, supporting the ideals and principles that I prefer and that is good enough for me.
No, he did not have to be there, but if all he was going to offer was more of the same horse hockey he just as well have stayed home.
So, people were late, from what I read, Trump is frequently late. So why is it ok for him and for no one else? There is such a thing a scheduling conflicts, it is not an unheard of idea among incredibly busy people. I am not holding something like that against Harris.
Where we do agree is the need to address the demand side of the immigration issue with more scrutiny. Those that hire illegals should be punished more severely. So, just maybe more focus could placed on who it is that offers economic sustenance once migrants get here. It is like you say, they are subject to exploitation and I say that conservatives don't say anything about it because the perpetrators are part of their own family. That is as viable approach instead of blaming migrants all of time.
"Actually he said they are taking everybody's jobs and they are taking Black jobs."
That is not what he said, the spin meisters want to us to believe that is what he meant. You have his direct quote, why do you dispute it?
Trump embarrassed himself and disrespected the attendees by offering bullsh@t instead substantive answers.Well, we disagree about harris which is no surprise. It's not about her ethnic background but how she uses it as a tool when it gets her what she wants. harris is not genuine. When in front of an audience in the south she will speak with a southern accent. She was born in San Fransisco and spent a lot of time growing up in Canada. harris was never anywhere near the south during her formative years. Why use the fake southern accent? She needs to quit being so fake.
President Donald Trump, love him or hate him, he speaks the same to an audience in the south as he does to an audience in the north. No matter what the color make up of the audience, he speaks the same. He doesn't try to change himself so he can pander to a particular crowd. President Donald Trump is not fake unlike harris.
I think in the scheme of things the debacle at the black journalists meeting is pretty much forgotten.
I will tell you I think President Donald Trump's schedule is every bit as busy as that of vp harris, but he was there.Well, Mike those "tools" are not really relevant for me. I am interested in keeping Donald Trump out of the White House and am looking for a good Democrat with qualifying credentials to make that happen. Trump is consistent in his xenophobia, misogyny and race baiting and that consistency is not to his advantage from my point of view. Trump is not the sort of "genuine" that I am looking for.
The debacle at the black journalist meeting is not forgotten by the Black community and people of color but constitutes just another demerit against him.
Will Donald Trump "be there" for the debate on September 10th?
,"It was a setup. President Donald Trump went to a place and gave his time. They were 35 minutes late. He was told Kamala would be there and she wasn't."
The truth?
"Ken Lemon, the president of the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ), said Wednesday’s interview with former President Trump was delayed over a fact-checking dispute, not because of audio issues, as the GOP presidential nominee claimed.
Lemon told Axios he was called back to address an issue just moments before Trump took to the stage. The former president did not want to be fact-checked live and was refusing to begin the interview, he said.
[Trump’s team] said, ‘Well, can you not fact-check? He’s not going to take the stage if you fact-check,’” Lemon said."
Trump, being a pathological liar, wanted to bloviate unchecked. Not surprising.
Was Vice President Kamala Harris invited to NABJ24?
"Yes, Vice President Harris was invited to NABJ24. Her team informed us she was unable to attend the Convention."
She was unable to attend due to the funeral of the representative Sheila Jackson Lee. This was known the day before the convention.
Also, Journalist Scott was not disrespectful. She exposed Trump's inability to tolerate a black woman not showing him what he perceived to be the proper deference. She showed his inability to answer her questions. She revealed his unpreparedness and utter lack of substance.
It's called journalism.
I wish someone would have asked him why he took out full page ads in several newspapers calling for the execution of five innocent black teenagers.
Let's all remember how Trump began his career in 1973 being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans.
https://nabjonline.org/blog/vp-harris-o … son/?amp=1Thank you, Willowarbor
Did you pick up on any of this, Mike? Can you take issue with it?I picked up on something, I thought it was pretty amusing...
https://twitter.com/watchTENETnow/statu … 9394936266
What's your take?Well, Ken, those are the confessions of of a couple of ditzy looking young women. The issue of reproductive rights go considerably further than what was expressed in their complaints, that is the reason more women will cling to the Harris-Walz ticket. The ire and consequential rise of these woman may be enough to deny Trump the White House.
No, what we see with this clip is mental illness on full display. Could the mentally-challenged put Kamala in office? Anything is possible.
Seriously, she's afraid Trump will take the dye out of her hair and take away her tattoos!?
He has a Country to save young brainwashed one, your tattoos are safe with Trump!
This is an interesting statement.
Nothing he said is verified.
He could have said anything and the left would have believed it.
I think this is a biased hit piece base on nothing but hearsay.
As usual, the left believes it without any proof of what is being alleged.
Not surprised.Hearsay? The President of the National Association of Black Journalists was interviewed and quoted. I'm to believe he's lying? Why? Has anyone refuted his statement? Trump is an established pathological liar.
1. The technical problems were stated soon after the event occurred.
This is from one of the ranking member right after the event.
"HARRIS FAULKNER Those moments yesterday, the audio and technical problems we were having per the NABJ and ABC News were really, really frustrating. And I am watching that back and I'm seeing that we were able to -- at some point the former president and I have a conversation -- so much of what America is focused on today and so much of what that started with with all that emotion and the gotcha moments from the interviewer who was seated directly to his left, has really overtaken the fact that we had an opportunity to talk with the president who walked into a racial storm yesterday. There were journalists, activists, whatever you want to call people who let their politics show who wanted the NABJ to rescind their offer to have the 45th president of the United States to come and sit."
There is even a video clip of people right after the event talking about the delay based on technical issues.
The technical issues are not something spread by the President Donald Trump's campaign. That is a demonstratable lie.
This is something stated by members of the NABJ.
2. So, now, several days after the event we're supposed to believe that it wasn't technical issues like was previously stated, all of a sudden, it's because President Donald Trump didn't want to be fact checked? Puh..leese!
3. The NABJ president is the ONLY person making this statement. Nobody else is corroborating his statement.
4. IF President Donald Trump actually didn't want to go on because he didn't want to be fact checked, they would have run with that story from the minute the event was over. It wouldn't have taken several days for it to be all of a sudden mentioned in the press.
Sorry, facts are facts and logic is logic.
I call this story political BS propaganda.
If being honest, there is no other way to look at it.Mike, the problem is in this fiasco, as you yourself so aptly described, is that the flippant non chalant way Trump interacted with this gathering gives us no confidence that would take the interests of our general community in an anymore serious way. That is how we are looking at it.
"That is how we are looking at it"
I don't believe this is how conservative blacks see things.
Unless the Dems are planning on pulling another Maduro-type win, I would think that they would be trying to attract moderates and independents. I think your comment about Mark Kelly the other day was correct, and he would have attracted more votes from those moderates who do want an alternative to Trump.
Doc, I am not familiar with a "Maduro-type" win but if it involves getting more votes than the opponent and more electoral votes regarding the electoral votes, then that is what it is.
I, too, was afraid that Walz was too liberal to attract the general electorate, moderates and independents. While he checked all of my boxes as far as a good progressive, I need to win and would support Kelly as a more conservative compromise toward that end.
As a Naval pilot and Astronaut "space cadet", I was attracted to his resume as man who could be called courageous right out of the box. I have a soft spot for NASA and astronauts, much like that of the late John Glenn.
However, Harris has to make the appropriate balance, Kelly has had more than a few scraps with organized labor, normally a major Democratic Party constituency. It was more important to risk a more liberal Walz to get all the total endorsement and support by organized labor.
Another reason might be the fact that the Democratic majorities in the Senate are paper thin, we could not risk a loss of a Senate seat to a Republican in a contentious purple state like Arizona if Mr. Kelly had to resign to assume the position of Vice President.
I would go with Harris instincts and decisions as the correct ones under the circumstances.I realize you are unable to accept that there was fraud in the election since the Dems won the white house but there was ballot stuffing, fake mail in ballots, and many other irregularities. If the Republicans had managed to do the same thing, would you still be so sure that it was an honest vote? Do you not remember how Hillary was an "election denier" after she lost the election back in 2016?
Returning to that original issue, I think no one could have made that stolen valor argument with Kelly, unlike Walz. I am sure there would have been something else, or they could just make something up like the Dems did with the couch thing.
The only thing I like about Walz is that he has not used his postion to practice insider trading like Pelosi, AOC, and so many of the scum in power.(On both sides of the aisle.) He survives off the public, like all of them, but is not trying to make himself rich by ripping off others.
The reason I mentioned Maduro is that the recent elections in Venezuela were a lot more obvious. The same thing happened here when Lula won, as there were hundreds of voting districts that recorded 100% of the votes for him. I am not sure how your neighborhood is there in the US, but are you aware of ANYWHERE that has 100% of the people on one side? Even if you do not agree, are you not aware that there are always about a third of the people that oppose something just because it is what the majority support?I don't accept the fraud, because outside of Trump harping about it it has been never been proven. So, for me it is a non-issue.
Hillary was an election denier, she had a better case to make than Trump as she won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College and you can bet we won't let that happen again. In spite of this she did not go around the country talking about "big steals" that has never been substantiated for over 4 years. There is a difference here and you know it.
Vance is a creep is as is evident in his documented comments and writings.
Yes, I would be suspicious of 100 percent of a community voted for a single candidate. But I cannot speak about the system in Brazil. I know that that has not happened here. Trump says it best, "the only way that Democrats win is because of cheating and corruption". I consistently vote Democratic, myself and others with the same political inclinations do not consider ourselves as cheating or corrupt. Trump, MAGA and the entire Right wing thrives on this kind of bullish@t for its very survival.
But, it won't work this time, I will consign Trump to eternal oblivion and scatter MAGA to the 4 winds come this November."I don't accept the fraud, because outside of Trump harping about it it has been never been proven."
You do not accept that Pennsylvania was counting mail in ballots long after the legal time period allowed?
Or you understand it happened, but don't care because it benefitted Biden? Perhaps reject the thought of such activity because you don't want to consider it?None of the scores of courts that Trump whined to regarding his complaint regarding election fraud have given the Trump the time of day. He is just a sore loser and we will see that he loses again.....
That is good enough for me.Of course it is; the result is Trump can no be called a liar and that's far more important than recognizing fraud.
Should I assume, then, that the third option (reject the thought because you don't want to think about it) is the one used? For sure it happened; it was in all the news, regardless of what the court said - but you don't want to admit it?
*edit* It just occurred to me; is the reason you don't recognize it that the ends justify the means? If fraud is used to keep Trump out of office, then it isn't deemed fraud because the cause is just?edit* It just occurred to me; is the reason you don't recognize it that the ends justify the means? If fraud is used to keep Trump out of office, then it isn't deemed fraud because the cause is just?
You misunderstand me, while I will always say that Trump is among the worse examples of the human species to have ever walked the Earth, I do not promote illegal methods against him. I will see that he gets his day in court, fairly. But, I don't care what the papers say, incontrovertible proof is required before we listen to one addled old fool question the entire system of election just because he does not want to face the fact that he lost. That proof is from the courts and legal system to evaluate his claim and they found nothing. Everyone, even his closest associates told him that he lost.
So, I don't care what Trump says.The proof he won was submitted to the courts and legal system by many people, but was not allowed to be considered, seen or addressed.
The math proves he won, but no one will consider the actual math.
The crime is the free-for-all voting procedures, (especially mail-in ballots,) promoted during that election due to Covid19.Now why would a valid claim from Trump and his associates not be considered, seen or addressed by the courts and legal system?
As far as your math, the numbers don't add up. Trump blamed ballots in battleground state large cities with overwhelming minority populations that voted against him and I am proud to say that I was among those numbers. Of course, he wanted to throw those votes out.
I am excited because we are going expressed our wishes through the ballot even more fervently this time.There's more math scenarios that have not been revealed to the mainstream media outlets.
Of course.
I cannot cut and paste what is not made available on the internet. My research skills are not up to the task, right now, of locating truthful articles.
None you would believe anyway.
I think your last paragraph describes the situation perfectly. The leftists choose to accept it as okay since their fraud gained them the white house. If the Republicans did that and managed to keep it out of the courts he would be screaming his head off.
Not sure why you felt the need to launch a personal attack. I have not commented on your military service or made any personal attacks against you. I made that statement to Wilderness based on his comment and the comments you have made against Trump in the past several years.
It certainly looks personal to me.It is not a personal attack, but it is a complaint about a position that you seem to have taken, it makes me appear shallow. I am simply saying that your assessment of me is incorrect. I don't have to like someone to support the idea that he or she should be treated fairly.
"Bullshit in your medical bag" is not a personal attack?
"You do not accept that Pennsylvania was counting mail in ballots long after the legal time period allowed?"
What legal time period? Pennsylvania did not break any law in counting it's ballots.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that election officials in Pennsylvania were able to count absentee ballots received as late as the Friday after Election Day so long as they were postmarked by Nov. 3.
By law, many states don’t start counting mail ballots until after polls close, and some continue to accept them for days after Election Day if they are postmarked by that date.Now this is interesting - I've been told over and over in these forums that Trump's court filings were turned down all over the country for a variety of reasons, and now you're saying one of them made it to the SCOTUS.
But I can't find any such case. I DID find a SCOTUS case over mail in ballots in Pennsylvania...for the 2021 election, wherein a lower court required ballots to be counted that had no date or the wrong date. SCOTUS overturned that ruling - seems that the ballots had to be counted in the proper, legal time frame and without the date they were not.
Is that the case you are referring to?
https://whyy.org/articles/u-s-supreme-c … -decision/Maybe she is referring to the 2020 case . . .
Supreme Court leaves in place order requiring Pennsylvania to count absentee ballots after Election Day by ScotusBlog (Oct 19, 2020)
https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/10/supr … ction-day/
"A deadlocked Supreme Court on Monday let stand a lower-court ruling that requires Pennsylvania election officials to count absentee ballots received within three days after Election Day, Nov. 3, even if they are not postmarked. In two brief orders issued shortly after 7 p.m., the justices denied, without explanation, a request by Republicans to put the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s ruling on hold. Four justices – Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh – indicated that they would have granted the Republicans’ request."I'm referring to 2020 but I did see the case that you are referring to also
SCOTUS upheld the decision made by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
"Republicans have asked the high court to block all absentee ballots that arrived after Election Day. The justices previously upheld a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling for ballots to count that arrived up to three days after the election as long as they were postmarked by Nov. 3."
This decision directly related to the counting of the 2020 Pennsylvania ballots
https://whyy.org/articles/justices-deny … -deadline/
You are unable to accept it but if the other side did it would you still feel the same? Somehow I doubt it.
No, I do not accept that Vance is a creep. I do think that Harris is weird, and they are trying to paint the other side with that label to deflect.
I look forward to seeing how the rest of the people in your country vote this November. Lenin and Mao were both satisfied to go into a future unburdened by the past and wanted to kill anyone still burdened by what has been. Maybe we will see if that is what is best for the US too.The difference, Doc, is courts and legal proof regardless of what side is involved.
I am certainly not going elect a convicted felon to the highest office in the land.I look forward to seeing your comments when Trump wins 70 percent of the votes in your country. I will be surprised if the media does not jump on the election fraud bandwagon.
Wishful thinking? Trump is the equivalent of a Tsunami as a toxic candidate. The fact that Harris woke the sleeping giant of so many uncommitted and uninterested voters so quickly with such a force of momentum means this won't be a Trump runaway.
So, dream on, Doc...I personally do not think it will be 70 as there are always at least a third of the people unable to understand basic facts, like excessive government expenditures leading to inflation. If there is voter fraud, however, it could happen. Please remember that.
Yeah, yeah she did, and she still says those things today.
The difference in ending results, Hillary was never President. Trump was President so he had to contest what he felt was a fraudulent election from the Presidency.
And he played right into the narrative that the media has gleefully blown up into the biggest insurrection the world has ever seen, that shook the very foundations of the Oligarchy.... I mean Democracy... I mean I don't think the cabal.... I mean Congress... Congress, doesn't answer to anyone but the people.... the people, that's it, it's the People's Republic of America.
Yes the Mail In Ballot system, where ballots are continued to be counted AFTER the election, rather than requiring that all ballots be in, and counted, prior to or on election day, is still in effect in those States where it was first used in 2020.
There will be no difficulties with using it again in 2024.
But it will be interesting to see the reaction to it repeating itself, in an even more questionable election, with even crazier events going on, as seen in the last 30 days alone.Well, Ken, I see that the requirement for ballots to arrive prior to the election rather than just postmarked prior to it varies in the many states. All of this variation was not just created because Donald Trump was a candidate.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/po … in-voting/
By rules that have been place long before Donald Trump, his claim of fraud built into his loss is of no significance to me.
If this list of idiocy is actually true it is really difficult to understand how you expect to attract hard core conservatives, soft core conservatives, soft core liberals or even hard core liberals with a brain.
No rational person could accept this list of garbage as good for the country, good for states or good for the people (outside of illegal aliens).Well, Wilderness you are the last fellow from whom I could expect a non-rightwing bias regarding anything.
The information from Mike are from notoriously Right leaning newspapers and publications, so all the information is taken by me with a grain of salt or two.
You have your right to an opinion, but it does not go very far with me."so all the information is taken by me with a grain of salt or two."
Did you notice what I said? "If this list of idiocy is actually true..."
It's not called bias. Although, to be fair, I'm not sure you would ever recognize it - I can't imagine you saying something like that about a long list of negatives about Trump, for your own massive bias is pretty much "in your face" so to speak.I overlooked that the fact that you did say "if".
But the way you were carrying on, one would think that you absorb all of it as a sponge.
You are probably right, I can't stand Trump. But, I won't stoop to level of conservatives and dwell on conspiracy theories and lies in his regard.
Tim Waltz was not an officer in the reserves. He retired as a Master Sargent.
Oops! I misread you statement. I thought you were referring to him. I see you were referring to yourself.
Would you say Tim Waltz is popular in California where you live?
I live in California. We are too cool to discuss politics here. I cannot tell if people like him or not. No one says a word. We just hope for the best with our ignorance and our sunny, easy-going lives.
We, however, are observing as it all unravels ... will we learn in time?
I actually think so.
I think Californias are generally becoming pretty wary of Dems and left wing policies at this point.
We can always live outside in our vehicles, but do we want to?
NO.
I am not impressed with him, or fooled by him. I am afraid he and Kamala could power-smile their way to our homelessness, poverty, deaths and destruction. As Newsom is.
He's just a kid of the 60's, raised on Sesame Street.
We cannot take him seriously as he a poser and a piece of fluff.
Dragons always seem like something, but in all actuality they doubt their own power and flee when the going gets tough.
Year of the Dragon (1964):
"Strengths: Determined, ambitious, independent, energetic, sincere, and enjoy great popularity among friends.
Weaknesses: Easily give up, little willpower, and unwilling to admit mistakes.
Dragon Men: Dragon men have high self-esteem and always forge ahead. As one of the best leaders ever, Dragon men prone to be energetic, motivated, and skillful at work and they love to set dramatic and ambitious goals and then lead the team to complete them. They are also faithful and generous to friends and lovers, seldom flirting with others.
However, they need more courage to face failures and challenges."
From:
https://www.travelchinaguide.com/intro/ … dragon.htmI agree Mike. I am both repulsed and disgusted.
The horrific things he has said and done, pale to what he has allowed to happen in his own State! But we are supposed to believe that, on a National level, he will unveil his true colors? The REAL Tim Walz will emerge? That's a load of crap!
It is evident to me that Democrats place their Party above all else!I really think the Elites, (or Aliens who invaded long ago),) are toying with us. They are producing shows of good and evil on societal and political stages, worldwide. I can imagine they have huge bowls of popcorn wherever they reside, chuckling, pointing, analyzing ...
Do they choose evil for us?
No. They just put it out there and watch what we do with it.
~ for the sheer entertainment of it all.
Thank you for this freedom of speech.
(good movie plot anyway.)LOL.....we have become so predictable that they fast forward through us... to get to the commercials!!
The tampon bill in Minnesota does not specify, in its language, female bathrooms". Why? Some schools in the state have gender-neutral bathrooms. Big deal...
The national guard response by Governor Walz during the George Floyd unrest?
Well gosh, at least one person approved....
"Trump and GOP lawmakers have been assailing Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, over his handling of the rioting in his state in the wake of the murder of George Floyd in 2020 — but in a phone call with governors that included Walz, then-President Trump praised his handling of the situation and said he was "very happy" with it.
In the audio obtained by CBS News, Trump is heard saying, "I know Governor Walz is on the phone, and we spoke, and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days."
Trump, in the 58-minute call with the governors, said of Walz, "He's an excellent guy. You've got a big National Guard out there that's ready to come in and fight like hell. I tell you, the best — what they did in Minneapolis was incredible. They went in and dominated, and it happened immediately."
In terms of his retirement in May of 2005 from the army national guard... There was no notice of deployment. That did not come until July of that year. The man had every right to retire.
Lol MAGA really wants to attack this man on character?! If character meant anything to MAGA, Trump wouldn't be the nominee. Trump's character is abhorrent in every way. Should we again run down the disgusting things Trump has said and done? MAGA has no right to even approach the moral high ground.LOL And Democrats DO have a right to claim moral superiority? You've got to be kidding!
(You ARE kidding, right?)
Tim Walz's legislation shows him to be a very progressive governor. One only needs to do a bit of research on what he has signed into law.
Tim Walz has a political history that reflects his progressive and left-leaning ideologies, particularly when examined through his legislative actions and public statements. Those who are interested in understanding his political stance would benefit from a deeper dive into his past, which includes reviewing his speeches, interviews, and YouTube footage where his views are often articulated candidly. Walz's legislative history is marked by initiatives that emphasize social welfare, and equity.
"It is evident to me that Democrats place their Party above all else."
AB WilliamsThe objective is to win an election and secondly keep Trump out of office.
Not to find the best choices for President and Vice President. That part of the equation comes in a distant third (or fourth or tenth, but never first).And the reason for that, is ultimately to create America's version of North Korean Communist Utopia... ... or at the very least, the wonderful peaceful world, where everyone is taken care of and treated fairly, like we see in the UK.
But in order to bring that about, they need to finish bringing all the farms under their control, and confiscate all the weapons from the deplorable Americans that want to cling to them. Enlightened, well balanced Americans know they have no need for weapons in today's civilized world.
And in order to accomplish those things, along with all their other well meaning plans, they must first ensure Trump and his supporters are no longer a threat to hinder those plans.
The Obamas made a Netflix movie that more or less predicted this would happen, so I can't take credit for the idea... but when seeing that video it certainly made me aware of how easily it could be done.
Then, they can just blame it on Russia... or a solar flare... or whoever they like.
Tim Waltz turned into a dictator during the pandemic.
"Tim Walz Was a COVID-19 Tyrant
The Minnesota governor actually defended the state's disastrous nursing home policies.
He even defended Minnesota's ridiculous hotline for COVID-19 snitches. That's right: Walz's government maintained a method for people to report their neighbors for failing to abide by social distancing rules.
he also maintained the right, via executive order, to issue $1,000 fines and send violators to jail for 90 days.
Implementation of one of the stupidest COVID-19 rules: Diners at restaurants had to wear masks while walking to their table and moving about the establishment but were allowed to go maskless as long as they were eating and drinking.
Later, in November and December of 2020, Walz issued and extended orders for restaurants, gyms, and other businesses to shut down. This included outdoor dining service for eating establishments. Over 150 businesses formed the Reopen Minnesota Coalition and urged the governor to relent, but Walz was unmoved."
https://reason.com/2024/08/06/tim-walz- … 19-tyrant/Interestingly, Hawaii and Massachusetts... Minnesota in 4th...top the 2022 State Scorecard rankings, based on overall performance across 56 measures of health care access and quality, service use and cost, health disparities, and health outcomes during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020. The lowest-performing states were Mississippi, Oklahoma, and West Virginia.
So Minnesota had a lot fewer covid deaths compared to other states. Did the governor's covid measures drive business out?
Don't think so..
"In 2024, CNBC ranked Virginia as the top state for business for the sixth time since 2007, with North Carolina in second and Tennessee in third. Other states that ranked highly include Georgia, Minnesota, Washington, Florida, Utah, and Michigan. CNBC's rankings consider factors such as economy, infrastructure, workforce, cost of doing business, and quality of life."
"Minnesota is known as a "headquarters economy" because of its high concentration of large companies. As of 2023, Minnesota had 15 Fortune 500 companies, including UnitedHealth Group, Target, CHS, Best Buy, 3M, and U.S. Bancorp. The Minneapolis–St. Paul metropolitan area alone has 24 Fortune 1000 companies. The Twin Cities area also ranks third in the U.S. for the number of corporate headquarters per million people. "
They seem like they've done okay under Walz. Far from a liberal hellscape that is shunned by big business.Study finds that Minnesota is losing $6.6 billion in investment to other states thanks to high taxes and labor shortages
The report finds that:
While overall activity ticked up in Minnesota since 2021, the state consistently ranks near the bottom of Midwest states for new and expansion projects. Minnesota ranked 10th out of 12 states in the region in total projects from 2018 to 2022, and ranked 10th in projects per capita in 2022.
It also found that:
Minnesota lost three notable expansions due to regulatory barriers, totaling a combined loss of 350 potential new jobs and $1.2 billion in lost capital investment.
Furthermore:
Data from fDi Markets shows that Minnesota based companies are expanding in other states at a higher rate than out-of-state companies are expanding in Minnesota. Since 2020, Minnesota had a net investment deficit of 54 projects, 2,500 jobs and $6.6 billion in capital expenditures.
https://www.americanexperiment.org/stud … shortages/
Laura Ingraham's reporting on Walz is spot on. She provides the clips of the false claims he has made about his military service in his own words. There is even a clip of CNN confirming the false claims Walz makes about his military record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn99-49jWngSorry Cred,Trump supporters are all about a normal & natural future for their children and grandchildren. Free from weirdos screwing up their minds. The left owns this strange B.S.!!
I don't think so, but that is just my opinion and will probably be the opinion of those that put the Harris-Walz ticket over the top this coming November.
Praying for Trump-Vance come November.
I want better than what we currently have, for my grandkids.
Let's take a look at Walz...
Walz’s first term as governor was legislatively uneventful because Republicans held the state Senate, but Democrats took over control of that chamber by a single seat in the 2022 midterms and held the state House as well.
So what did the house bring to his desk?
State Democrats passed a child tax credit, tuition aid, free school breakfast and lunch for all students, worker protections, and paid family and medical leave. They passed criminal justice reform, abortion rights protections, gender-affirming care protections, and universal background checks for gun purchases.
They legalized recreational marijuana, restored voting rights to felons who had completed their terms of incarceration, and reformed permitting so the state could transition to clean energy more quickly. They greatly increased spending on infrastructure, schools, affordable housing, and public safety.
How are they able to do so much? Afford so much? The state had a massive budget surplus.
Republicans have complained that Walz ensured free menstrual products in student bathrooms (the horror!), but conveniently omit that the policy was secured as part of a $2.2 billion education spending package he signed last year, averaging to $400 in extra funds per student, one of the largest education investments in Minnesota history.
Graduating Minnesota students will begin reaping the benefits of North Star Promise, a program Walz signed into law that covers public college tuition and fees for families making under $80,000 thousand a year.
In 2022, Walz signed a $92.7 million omnibus mental health budget bill into law, aimed at strengthening Minnesota's mental health infrastructure. The legislation allocates $60 million to increase hospital bed capacity, attract new mental health professionals, and expand mobile crisis units. The nerve of the man?
These things just make sense, they are things that people like. I don't think most people would find them repulsive.
His 12 years in Congress really didn't show him to be a "go big' progressive in the vein of Bernie Sanders either.
He emphasized the importance of deficit reduction. He supported building the Keystone XL pipeline.
During his final term, the GovTrack website rated Walz the 12th “most politically right” member of the House Democratic Caucus. The website noted he was in the “94th percentile” of his caucus in terms of his closeness to the political center.
That rating appears to be partly a result of Walz’s willingness to back legislation that had bipartisan or mostly Republican backing. Almost half the bills Walz sponsored in his final term in Congress originated with non-Democrats.
Walz is certainly no liberal Boogeyman.
In contrast, what has Vance done?
https://coloradonewsline.com/2024/08/10 … minnesota/Minnesota’s governor Tim Walz became half of the “most radical, far-left ticket in the history” Tuesday when Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris announced the former teacher and national guardsman as her running mate.
Walz, 60, has pursued and backed several progressive policies that have animated both sides of the political aisle during his tenure as the North Star State’s leader — and was widely viewed as one of the most left-leaning VP candidates.
Here is a look at the Minnesotan’s progressive resume as governor.
Sanctuary state status
Prior to winning the governorship in 2018, Walz expressed support for turning Minnesota into a sanctuary state, meaning he would support scaling back local police cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.
COVID-19 snitching
Shortly after the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, Walz’s administration opened a hotline allowing individuals to snitch on those who were eschewing the state’s stringent lockdown rules.
That prompted scores of reports against everyday Minnesotans who were simply walking their dogs or doing rudimentary activities during the pandemic.
Walz’s use of emergency powers during the pandemic also outraged critics — including the institution of a mask mandate and business shutdowns.
Opposition to school choice
Early on in his governorship, Republicans in the state Senate pushed for an education savings account — a voucher-like system in which state education funding would follow the student even if a parent selected a private school.
Walz, however, opposed the effort.
“It’s not the time to get into a lot of policy decisions,” Walz said at the time, according to Minnesota Public Radio.
“So, we are not going to defund our public schools at this time, when especially those hardest hit need them more than ever.”
Making Minnesota a ‘trans refuge’
In 2023, Walz signed the so-called “Trans Refuge” bill into law that restricted state agencies from complying with out-of-state subpoenas, arrest warrants and extradition requests for people who traverse to Minnesota from other states for “gender-affirming care.”
He also signed an executive order protecting “gender-affirming care” in Minnesota, including puberty blockers, surgeries and hormone therapy.
The order also called upon state agencies not to approve health insurance plans that didn’t cover gender-affirming operations.
Climate change action
The North Star State Democrat has undertaken a handful of initiatives aimed at tackling climate change.
In 2022, he unveiled Minnesota’s Climate Action Framework, featuring objectives such as increasing the number of electric vehicles on the road from 1% to 20% by 2030 and slashing the state’s greenhouse gas emissions by 50% over eight years.
That plan also pushed for “100% carbon-free electricity” by 2040.
Gun control
During his time in Congress, Walz managed to score an “A” rating from the National Rifle Association. An avid hunter, Walz has boasted about his shooting skills.
However, his relationship with the NRA soon soured. Following the Las Vegas mass shooting in 2017 in which 59 people were mowed down, Walz donated contributions he got from the NRA to a nonprofit backing the victims’ families.
Last year, Walz then signed a gun control package that featured universal background checks and a red flag policy that creates a process for law enforcement to take firearms away from individuals perceived at risk of harming themselves or others.
George Floyd aftermath
Conservatives lashed out at Walz over the riots that erupted in Minneapolis in the wake of George Floyd’s death in 2020 — accusing him of being too soft in his response.
In particular, Walz faced intense scrutiny over his delay in deploying the Minnesota National Guard to help restore order on Twin City Streets.
“It was obvious to me that he froze under pressure, under a calamity, as people’s properties were being burned down,” State Senator Warren Limmer, a Republican who helped lead a committee that investigated the response to the unrest, said, according to the New York Times.
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey also publicly blamed Walz for the response to the chaos that unfolded.
Minnesota GOP Chairman David Hann accused the governor of being “fearful of alienating his ‘progressive’ base” in an interview with Fox News.
Soft spot for China
Walz speaks Mandarin and has a history with China that critics have been quick to highlight. He spent one year fresh out of college, teaching in China as part of the WorldTeach program.
He later hailed that experience, saying, “No matter how long I live, I will never be treated that well again.”
In 2016, he did an interview with Agri-Pulse in which he suggested that the US and China should not have an adversarial relationship — before conceding he would like to see improvements from China on human rights issues, trade, and environmental policy.
“I’ve been there about 30 times,” he told the outlet at the time. “I don’t fall into the category that China necessarily needs to be an adversarial relationship. I totally disagree.”
https://nypost.com/2024/08/06/us-news/h … ey-issues/
Tim Walz Progressive Agenda Included Giving Driver’s Licenses, Free Tuition to Illegal Immigrants
Since becoming governor in 2019, he has signed off on legislation to give numerous privileges to illegal immigrants, including access to state-funded health care and free college tuition.
He also approved legislation in 2023 to give driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/tim … mmigrants/
Sorry, Walz's positions are too far left for a true conservative to even consider supporting him.
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