Democrats------->Socialism?

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  1. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 8 months ago

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    Why do Democrats contend that government should take care of its citizens instead of letting citizens make their own decisions?  Why do Democrats lean more towards socialistic policies in terms of implementing social/socioeconomic programs?  Do you think that Democrats have a history of socialism?  Why? Why not?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      First, lets consider the effects of socialism on society.
      What comes to my mind is high taxation. All wage earners and profit makers will be expected to contribute toward whatever others cannot provide for themselves to be able to survive on their own.

      And the question is, why can't they provide for themselves and survive on their own?

      The truth is, Democrats believe in giving them a pass, (helping them,) for various reasons.

      Is it a civil rights issue?
      Is it injustice in the form of discrimination?
      Is it women without husbands through no fault of their own?
      Is it women who get pregnant despite their best intentions not to?
      Is it because some are temporarily or permanently down on their luck?
      Is it because some have lost all family and/or friends who could lend a hand?
      Is it because some have become addicted to alcohol and drugs?

      It is good to help people, but when the government gets involved The People's money gets funneled elsewhere. Even better, is when churches, neighbors and charity organizations directly help those who need help.

      Not relying on the government results in less taxation and more freedom for The People to manage their own money/earnings.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image71
      Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      I've been stewing on this one for a couple days now, not knowing how to respond.

      Democrats---------->  Socialism?

      Its off... its not exactly what is going on.

      What is really occurring, in real time, as we watch, is the dissolution of Nation States.

      We are far less today America... and much more North America.

      Mexican Cartels are far more prevalent and powerful within the US.

      Canadian corporations today own far more Energy and Farming resources than we allowed prior to NAFTA... critical American resources and infrastructure owned by International corporations.

      The Political Elite class is international, and views the world through a International lens.  Which is why the idea of shipping in millions from places like Venezuela and Haiti doesn't even rise to the level of informing the American populace, let alone asking permission.

      Those making the decisions do not want to answer to the rabble, to the deplorables that think citizenship or nationality even matter in the new, global order, that they are bringing into existence.

      Or as Klaus is want to say... 'you will own nothing, you will have no rights, and you will be happy about it'.

      As others like to say the Constitution, written by 55 wealthy white men and signed by only 39 of them, is not a framework for justice, but rather a rulebook written to enslave the populace.

      In a rapidly evolving world with changing social, economic, and political needs, the Constitution is seriously outdated.

      Seeking out the acceptance or permission of the uneducated and uninformed masses to make the changes needed in an ever changing world is an antiquated concept.

      Incessant election cycles, staggered terms of office, and legislative sessions have kept social movements trapped in a failure loop.

      It is understood by our elites, that the changes required can no longer be done by Amending the Constitution as set down by white men looking to solidify their power and control.

      So these changes must be brought about on the International stage, where the Constitution is subordinated and effectively made inconsequential to International Law.

      And that is what is going on... that is what a Harris Presidency ensures us.

      Trump is the opposite of this, a vote for Trump is a vote to slow, or even stop, this change, this acceptance of International authority and control superseding Nationality and the American exceptionalism and citizenship we have always taken for granted.

      1. tsmog profile image83
        tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        Interesting take!! I read it twice to absorb all the concepts. Thanks for sharing.

        Curiosity struck while reading it and I sought answers. First is . . .

        World's Most Influential Countries, 2024 by CEO World Magazine (Apr 4, 2024)
        https://ceoworld.biz/2024/04/04/ranked- … ries-2024/

        Rank    Country    Score
        1    United States    95.29
        2    China    95.09
        3    Russia    94.26
        4    India    94.16
        5    France    94.15
        6    Germany    93.63
        7    United Kingdom    93.47
        8    Japan    93.38
        9    Saudi Arabia    93.12
        10    Italy    92.84

        The complete list is available with 194 countries

        "The survey collected detailed data and information directly from 320,000 individuals across 11 data points, such as politicians, business leaders, global business executives, and policy experts. Experts were asked to rate countries on a scale of 1 “marginal” to 100 “outstanding” or “don’t know.” The margin of sampling error for the full sample of 320,000 respondents is plus or minus 1.2 percentage points. One should bear in mind that, as in all survey research, there are possible sources of error, such as coverage, nonresponse, and measurement error, that could affect the results."

        Then I sought corporation. CEO Magazine had information on that too.
        World’s Most Influential and Innovative Companies, 2024
        https://ceoworld.biz/2024/01/13/worlds- … nies-2024/

        The top ten are:

        Bank of America
        JP Morgan Chase & Co
        Saudi Arabian Oil Company (Saudi Aramco)
        Exon Mobile
        Microsoft
        Apple
        Shell
        Toyota Motor
        Industrial and Commercial of China Limited
        Samsung Electronics - South Korea

        1. Ken Burgess profile image71
          Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          I will do you one better than those (considering those lists, one should include this):

          https://gfmag.com/banking/worlds-biggest-banks-2023/

          Notice how that list differs from this one:

          https://www.swfinstitute.org/fund-ranki … ng-company

          And this one:

          https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/ … world.aspx

          And then consider this:

          https://www.techopedia.com/who-owns-the-most-blk-stock

          and this (if you can)

          https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/ … blackrock?

          Else this:

          https://www.fool.com/investing/how-to-i … krock-own/

          So, you begin to see how twisted it all becomes?

          Of course, you can get rather deep into things:

          https://www.goldinglawyers.com/internat … x-evasion/

          https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- … it-wealth/

          If you follow enough of the bread crumbs, you will find out things like:

          Chinese banks are bankrolling Mexican cartels.

          The DNC is laundering money through Ukraine and into its coffers.

          British banks are profiting off international slave trade networks.

          And so much more.

          If you want to know.

          1. tsmog profile image83
            tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            I don't know if it is better, but definitely contributes to the collective information. Of course, better may just be opinion orientated.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image71
              Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              More informed... it helps in moderating oneself, if nothing else.

              Why would you let yourself get wound up about the issues, without delving into the depths.

              For example, lets say you are very concerned with today's immigration policies.

              Well then, in order to understand the "why" and the "how" you had better consider everything that relates to it:


              Agenda 2030
              The UN Global Compact on Migration (which Biden joined)
              Those who fund and back the Cartels
              Those who fund and back Child Slavery
              Etc. etc.

              1. tsmog profile image83
                tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                Thanks! I'll consider what you shared. Yet, I ask those questions not of me, but of those who take leader's word for such and such and then getting wound up on issues. It appears that is the case these days with the majority of the voting populace don't you think? I don't know, just guessing. You are always harping on going to sources that aren't mainstream, which I do do. I just don't advertise it as you do and I don't have a favorite issue or realm I would suspect. I am just a curious person by nature.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image71
                  Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  As to the last sentence, that has become obvious to me over time.

                  When it comes to wanting solid information regarding any foreign issue, whether I am researching a company or a country's actions, yes, I try and go to sources outside of America.

                  But in general, I just try to avoid MSM (main stream media) reporting. Take this for example, one guy destroying a whole lot of disinformation on his own, giving an honest view:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpBh-Qi5dE

                  Brilliant stuff neither the right nor left leaning media will create.

    3. Valeant profile image77
      Valeantposted 7 months agoin reply to this

      Do you honestly believe that all citizens have the ability to take care of themselves?  When they can't, what do you see as being the outcome?

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

    A percolating economy with plenty of work and jobs is what enables people to be independent.
    Education and having the skills to contribute to a percolating economy is what helps people provide for themselves and to survive on their own,(independence.)

    The key is giving children a good start in life.

    If you miss that window of opportunity to have your kids become strong, robust people, which they were destined to be, you actually contribute to a society of needy people who are instead, destined to rely on others, or when others are unwilling, the government.

    Now, why oh why, would the government want to help people?
    hmmmmm .....

    What would the founding fathers say about this subject?
    I think they would say the condition of being free is what allows people to be able to provide for themselves.

    Is freedom not enough, anymore?

    What has dumbed us down and made us so weak that we have so many problems?

    I really think it stems from not knowing how to raise human beings.
    Not knowing what their needs are in early childhood. Pure ignorance on a scientific level.

    I'm sure the native American Indians had some knowledge. Too bad they've probably forgotten ... or we could ask them.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

    Freedom is actually the most important thing. The native Americans had freedom. They had common sense. They had survived for eons of time, making mistakes and correcting them. We came along and decided we knew better. We actually didn't.


    I have no hope. Trump would give us a glimmer of hope and possibility for freedom and independence, but I do not believe he will be elected. Maybe if there were more very strong, robust and confident people with common sense and intelligence, and the determination to preserve this democratic republic. There are many, but not enough. It is not "too big to rig."

    I say this to soften the blow. I hope I am wrong  ....

  4. Sharlee01 profile image84
    Sharlee01posted 8 months ago

    I feel democrats often argue that the government should take care of its citizens because they believe in the idea of a social safety nets. This perspective stems from a belief that individuals may not always have the resources, ability, or support necessary to make the best decisions for themselves, especially in times of crisis.

    Democrats tend to lean towards socialistic policies when implementing social and socioeconomic programs because they prioritize equity and aim to address systemic inequalities that affect marginalized communities.

    As for the question of whether Democrats have a history of socialism, it can be argued that the party has embraced certain socialistic principles, particularly in its support for programs that promote collective welfare, such as Social Security and Medicare. While these programs may not be strictly socialistic in nature, they reflect a belief in the government's role in providing for its citizens.

    Overall, the Democratic Party's historical advocacy for social programs demonstrates an alignment with traditional definitions of socialism.

    1. tsmog profile image83
      tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      Curious . . . have you ever heard of a conservative/Republican turn down and refuse Social Security and/or Medicare in order to stand on principle? I haven't gone on an excursion to see, yet might. Of course there is the argument we paid into it, so it isn't socialistic? The same thing with unemployment.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        Having such a successful and beloved socialist-like program at the heart of such a  capitalistic society is perhaps the ultimate paradox. Or maybe it’s just good common sense.

      2. Sharlee01 profile image84
        Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

        In my view, conservatives often emphasize the principle of personal responsibility and believe in earning what you receive.  View Social Security and Medicare as entitlements that people have rightfully earned through their contributions. I mean one needs to take into consideration individuality. 

        From their perspective, turning down these benefits would be illogical because they've already paid into them. On the other hand, conservatives tend to be more skeptical of new social programs, like those Kamala Harris and other progressives advocate for, because these would be funded by additional taxes on hardworking Americans. They might argue that these "free" giveaways aren't truly free—they come at the expense of taxpayers. Ultimately, conservatives often see a clear distinction between programs they've invested in throughout their working lives and new programs that would create more financial burdens through increased taxation.

        Their belief in meritocracy leads many conservatives to be critical of any programs that provide benefits without requiring a prior investment or effort. They value systems that encourage self-reliance and economic independence, viewing "something for nothing" as undermining those principles.

        1. Willowarbor profile image60
          Willowarborposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          Don't true conservative principles lead toward the idea of people planning for their own needs in retirement? 

          Conservatives thought lends itself toward the idea of folks putting aside money in IRA accounts or the like rather than the government deciding how much and when they  pay into the  social security system, how much  they  receive in benefits,  when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out.    There's a lot of government control over that money that's being paid in.

          It only seems fair to say that Social Security is, in effect, a form of democratic socialism.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
            Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            This is correct. The history:
            FDR.

          2. Sharlee01 profile image84
            Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

            Conservatives believe it is not only acceptable but essential to keep what one has earned or contributed to. They value personal responsibility and individual achievement, viewing it as common sense that people should retain the fruits of their own labor.  This belief is a core characteristic of conservative thought, emphasizing self-reliance and fairness in reward for effort.

            Common sense suggests that there is no reason to opt out of Social Security, as it functions as a form of savings derived from one's work. By contributing to the system throughout their career, individuals build a source of income they can rely on in retirement. It serves as a safety net, ensuring financial support later in life based on the earnings and contributions made over time.  SS is not free in any respect.

            Saying that Social Security is a form of democratic socialism is not entirely accurate because it operates within a capitalist framework rather than a socialist one. Social Security is a government-managed insurance program funded by payroll taxes, where workers and employers contribute to a trust fund that provides benefits to retirees, disabled individuals, and survivors. It is based on individuals contributing based on their earnings, with payouts reflecting their work history.

            Social Security can be seen as a social insurance program rather than an example of socialism, as it doesn’t alter the structure of capitalism but provides support for individuals within it.

            Social Security is not a tax in the traditional sense of being a payment to the government with no direct benefit tied to it. Instead, it functions as a form of insurance benefit, that one has put their own funds into.

            I am not on board with paying for anyone's child care or helping with buying a home, or college-- all things I had to do on my own. I prefer Capotilism, and democray.

            1. Willowarbor profile image60
              Willowarborposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              there is no reason to opt out of Social Security,

              Which would provide a better financial picture at retirement?  Social security or contributions over the same period of time to an IRA account? (Hypothetically of course, assuming the option of being actually able to opt out of social security)

              My bet is on  the IRA.    So, my government is taking  those earnings from me instead of giving me the option to invest as I wish.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image84
                Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                When comparing Social Security to contributing to an IRA for retirement, there are distinct advantages and drawbacks to both. Social Security offers a guaranteed, inflation-adjusted income, which provides a stable safety net for retirees. Its payments are adjusted for inflation through Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs), ensuring that retirees maintain some purchasing power over time. Additionally, because Social Security is not linked to market performance, it provides a risk-free source of retirement income, making it ideal for those who prefer stability and certainty.

                However, Social Security tends to offer lower returns compared to what individuals could potentially earn through investing in an IRA. IRAs, depending on how they are invested, often yield higher returns over the long term, allowing individuals to grow their retirement savings more robustly. Unlike Social Security, which is mandatory and non-customizable, an IRA provides flexibility and the ability to tailor investment strategies to personal financial goals. That said, the growth of an IRA is subject to market fluctuations, meaning there is some degree of risk involved.

                For individuals with the ability and discipline to contribute to an IRA over their working years, the potential for a larger nest egg exists. However, many people may not have the income, financial knowledge, or opportunities to contribute consistently to an IRA, making Social Security their primary source of retirement income. In an ideal situation where one could opt out of Social Security and invest those funds into an IRA, the IRA could provide a better financial picture at retirement, but this is heavily dependent on market performance and individual financial circumstances.

                1. Willowarbor profile image60
                  Willowarborposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  "In an ideal situation where one could opt out of Social Security and invest those funds into an IRA, the IRA could provide a better financial picture at retirement, but this is heavily dependent on market performance and individual financial circumstances"

                  But our government does not give us that choice.     

                  I think we have several programs that can be considered close to socialist principles due to their focus on collective welfare and government intervention.

                  Medicare, medicaid, public housing, food assistance programs. unemployment insurance,  community/public health centers, public education, head start and WIC.

                  1. gmwilliams profile image85
                    gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Totally agree.   Don't you believe that it is the individual's responsibility to provide for/invest for himself/herself & his/her family instead of the government?  Do modern Americans contend that it is the government's responsibility to provide them w/a comfortable lifestyle?  Have the American government created a modern welfare state?  What is your solution to remedy this?

              2. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
                Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                I am surprised to say this to YOU!

                Exactly!

      3. DrMark1961 profile image100
        DrMark1961posted 8 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, I have. It is probably not common, but I do recall the last conservative president of the US refusing his salary so that the money could go back to the coffers.
        I have a serious medical condition that is listed as a reason for early retirement by our socialist government and a socialist friend of mine was trying to get me to accept early retirement and live off the government. I am still able to work and refused.
        Here in Brazil, as in most countries in the West, we do have socialized medicine so I do use that.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image71
          Ken Burgessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

          I imagine they feel entitled to it... they have to pay into those programs whether they want to or not.

          If anyone deserves the right to use those services it would be the working stiffs paying into them all their lives... Those are the same people who are most often Conservative.

          But who knows... I am sure there are some people fully dependent on government welfare and social services who are conservative... Somewhere.

    2. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 8 months ago

      Social program: Let's direct funds to ensure nobody has to sleep on the street and nobody dies a miserable death from a curable disease. This way we can make  life more safe and prevent  people from sooner or later becoming a danger... Think mental health and substance social  programs.

      Socialist program: Let us collectivise  agriculture. This way we can bring a bigger part of the economy under direct control of the government and have more people work under the  collectivist economy.   Also think, nationalizing our country's natural resources such as oil.

      The two are often conflated.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image84
        Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

        The proposal to redirect funds toward social programs to eliminate homelessness and prevent deaths from curable diseases, while seemingly noble, raises significant concerns about its alignment with democratic principles. Primarily, this approach could lead to increased government control over individual lives, undermining personal freedoms and autonomy. By prioritizing government-managed solutions, there's a risk of fostering dependency on state assistance rather than encouraging self-sufficiency. Furthermore, while the intention is to enhance safety and mental health, such programs could inadvertently stifle innovation and personal initiative, as citizens might rely on government support rather than seeking private solutions or entrepreneurial endeavors.

        In contrast, the concept of collectivizing agriculture and nationalizing natural resources presents even greater challenges to democracy. This centralization of economic power in the hands of the government could diminish competition and limit choices for consumers. It risks creating inefficiencies typical of state-run enterprises, potentially leading to food shortages and economic stagnation. The emphasis on collectivism may suppress dissent and individual expression, as the government would exert more influence over the economy and, by extension, over people's lives. Ultimately, while the intentions behind these proposals may be to create a more equitable society, they could undermine the democratic values of freedom, individualism, and economic diversity.

        Your views seem to express and align with key tenets of Marxism. Marxism advocates for the collective ownership of the means of production, which includes ideas like collectivizing agriculture and nationalizing natural resources. Additionally, the focus on social programs to address homelessness and health disparities echoes Marxist ideals of ensuring that basic needs are met for all individuals, emphasizing the role of the state in redistributing resources. 

        I appreciate your perspective on these social and economic proposals. Do you feel that this approach represents a better form of governing compared to our democratic systems?

    3. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      Maybe it can be argued that every single instance of collective welfare has removed certain freedoms.

      Maybe tough love and survival of the fittest is the most logical approach in the final analysis.

      Maybe the government's only job is to protect the nation/the people from outside and inside forces/sources of war and invasion, and preserve our constitution which guarantees our rights.

      Maybe the people need to man the f up.

    4. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      unless you don't like FREEDOM.

    5. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      Maybe people need to get rid of someone who does not believe in borders and ships in people from other countries to INVADE our communities/precious cities for whatever nefarious reasons.

      Get Kamala Out of Here!

      It is beyond reason and comprehension to put up with this treasonous female.

    6. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      I was going to sit back and relax now that my hand is healed and working pretty darn good.

      But no. I will keep keyboarding here,

      I realize this site and these forums are intended to be a place for research.
      So, I will be explaining/revealing why I think Kamala Harris would be a dangerous president.

      Anyone can determine that Kamala is focused on civil rights issues, but in addressing cilvil rights for minorities, we cannot give up the responsibility of preserving the constitutional rights for ALL.

    7. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      The truth is we can provide for our own future without relying on the government to manage our money. What happens if the funds run out because of situations involving the government ... beyond our control?
      I know people who have paid very little into social security and are working toward their own retirement savings / benefits.

      I myself was denied the proper amount of social security money that was due me by the government telling me I did not meet certain stipulations. But I did.

      I could not even fight it.

    8. tsmog profile image83
      tsmogposted 8 months ago

      For 2024 Social Security facts take a peek at . . .

      Fact Sheet / Social Security
      https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factshee … ct-alt.pdf

      20% of 2024 population receives some kind of social security benefit

      One interesting presented fact is;

      "An estimated 184 million workers will work in OASDI-covered employment in 2024.
      ο 31% of the workforce in private sector has no access to private pension coverage.
      ο About two-thirds (63%) of workers report they are currently saving for retirement.
      Having an employer-sponsored retirement savings plan is a key factor in whether
      Americans save for retirement. Only 16% of those without access to an employer-
      sponsored plan said they have any retirement savings."

      1. Sharlee01 profile image84
        Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

        So straight up, would you consider SS to a social program to pay for childcare in the country, a pay-off of student loans benefit, or a first-time homeowner program that offers assistance of some form?

        1. tsmog profile image83
          tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          I have a challenge understanding the question. Oops! Are you saying there can be Social Security 'or' one or more of those you shared? In other words, it is one or the other? Are you asking me to list all four by priority regarding which would benefit society and the governed most?

          I'm afraid with the last question I cannot fathom a guess, but from the self serving perspective 'today' I would go with social security as the top priority. However, that gives question to how much should I sacrifice for 'love' of country? Today vs. Tomorrow?

          1. Sharlee01 profile image84
            Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

            I see I really messed up the context of my comment.

            Do you consider Social Security a genuine social program?

            Would you support your tax dollars being used for initiatives like child daycare, universal healthcare, $6,000 for a child's first year, up to $25,000 in down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers, and Harris's plan to permanently increase the Child Tax Credit to $3,600 for children five and under, and $3,000 for those aged six to 17, along with an additional $6,000 credit for newborns in their first year?

            If you are on board, do you feel taxes would need to be raised to pay for these social programs? Have you found any information on how Harris plans to pay for all these added costs?

            I only ask to ascertain a view from an independent.  I hope you will share.

    9. Venkatachari M profile image91
      Venkatachari Mposted 8 months ago

      Why do we (or is it the politicians?) associate Social Security with Old Age Pensions and Subsidies? Freedom and Peace are the essential components of Security. The Freedom to live peacefully and fearless of the governmental bodies and terrorist attacks, etc.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
        Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        "The Freedom to live peacefully

        and fearless of the governmental bodies and terrorist attacks, etc."

        1. Governmental bodies.
           A. House:
           B. Senate:
           C. Justice Department:

        2. Terrorist attacks.

        ETC:

        3. Financial Abuse by foreign nations.

        4. Illegal Alien Invasions.
          A. Sex trafficking of children and women.
          B. Drug trafficking and all that goes with it.
          C. Murders, rapes and random mistreatment of citizens.
          D. Illegal takeovers of real-estate and establishments.

        5. Deep State Shenanigans.

        6. Abuses of our freedoms (in the name of rights.)
           A. Abusive speech.
           B. Same-gender marriage.
           C. Corruption of the youth, (through so many avenues.)
           D. Over-Tolerance of lawbreakers and criminals.
           E. Fantasy-implementing policies.
           F. Law breaking, in general.

        7. Government Overreach toward its citizens:
          A.  Surveillance.
          B.  Lockdowns.
          C. Paintball-shootings at "non complying" residents.
          D. Locking up citizens for ungrounded suspicions.
          E. Deeming people guilty before they are tried.

    10. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      "Would you support your (everyones) tax dollars being used for initiatives like

      1. Child daycare,
      2. Universal healthcare,
      3. $6,000 for a child's first year,
      4. Up to $25,000 in down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers, and Harris's plan 5. to permanently increase the
      6. Child Tax Credit to $3,600 for children five and under
      7. Child Tax Credit to$3,000 for those aged six to 17
      8. $6,000 credit for newborns in their first year?"
      (Thank You, Sharlee)

      If Kamala could could give these benefits to blacks only, she would.

      Can we let her do that? Maybe for like ten years?
      This could be considered a form of Reparations.

      Problem is, such a program would not be happily given up in ten years by those benefiting.

      Could we (collectively) afford to continue contributing to such a scheme?
      Would we be willing?
      ________________________________________________

      Abraham Lincoln foresaw this problem and truly thought the best solution would be to ship the freed slaves back to their homeland. The ship owners were not willing to do that.

      Did having the blacks remain in America, (rather than being shipped home,) present a dilemma which lingers to this very day?

      What makes it a dilemma?
      ~ The Whites unacceptance of Blacks?
      ~ The Black's unacceptance of themselves?

      Its a horrible topic, but obviously the time has come to address all the difficulties directly and consciously.

      We must isolate every single difficulty, one by one. A tedious task.

      ~ start here:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afIy2rDVecI

    11. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      White men and women could have assisted newly freed slaves, early on, by helping educate adults and their children, but I don't know if blacks were accepting of what white neighbors and teachers could have offered. They may still be resistant to what whites could offer them. All they really want is $$$$$$$$$$$.

      They do not believe they have the same opportunities as whites. This is a mind set that needs to change and that's all it is:

      A mind set.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOEhrY1D6rI

    12. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

      "Up to $25,000 in down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers."

      Where is this money coming from.

    13. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago
    14. Sharlee01 profile image84
      Sharlee01posted 7 months ago

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      I find the relationship between far-left socialism and religion to be quite complex. Historically, some far-left ideologies, particularly those rooted in Marxism, have been critical of religion. Marx famously called it the "opiate of the masses," implying that it distracts people from the real social injustices they face.

      That said, I found the TikTok released by my governor to be deeply offensive on several levels. At first, I felt it was exploiting a sexual act of a woman feeding another woman a treat, in a position reminiscent of a dog begging for a treat. It seemed disrespectful and dehumanizing.  Moreover, considering this governor's far-left ideals, I couldn't help but feel that it was also mocking Catholics taking communion. This clip feels emblematic of far-left ideologies, and I think it’s crucial to bring attention to it. Do we really want this kind of disgusting rhetoric in our lives, in our society? 

      In my view, they seek to make all that is good and positive appear bad and unacceptable. This aspect of socialism, particularly the dismissal of religion, is something that needs to be considered.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myGEaRnOX6A

     
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