Veteran Daniel Penny is acquitted

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   Readmikenowposted 2 months ago

   At last a hero will not be punished for protecting people in NYC.  A jury acquitted Daniel Penny of murdering a man who threatened to kill people on a subway in NYC.  He confronted the man who was terrifying other passengers and held him until police arrived.  Penny is a hero.
   
   "NEW YORK (AP) — A Marine veteran who used a chokehold on an agitated subway rider was acquitted on Monday in a death that became a prism for differing views about public safety, valor and vigilantism.
   
   A Manhattan jury delivered the verdict, clearing Daniel Penny of criminally negligent homicide in Jordan Neely’s death last year. A more serious manslaughter charge was dismissed earlier in deliberations because the jury deadlocked on that count.
   
   Both charges were felonies and carried the possibility of prison time.
   
   Penny, 26, gripped Jordan Neely around the neck for about six minutes in a chokehold that other subway passengers partially captured on video.
   
   Penny’s lawyers said he was protecting himself and other subway passengers from a volatile, mentally ill man who was making alarming remarks and gestures. The defense also disputed a city medical examiner’s finding that the chokehold killed Neely."

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I was personally relieved to see Penny acquitted. I worry that cases like this could discourage bystanders from stepping in to help others in need out of fear of being prosecuted themselves.
      
      While groups like BLM have highlighted racial dynamics in the incident, there hasn't been evidence indicating that Penny's actions were racially motivated. The main witness and several others who spoke to the media were black and were grateful for Penny's actions.

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   abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

   Hallelujah!!!

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      Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Remember the old saying "No good deed ever goes unpunished?"
      
      I think of that when I see this story.  An ex-Marine intervenes when a drugged up man begins to threatening the lives of subway passengers and HE is charged with a crime.
      
      NYC must be one crazy place.

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         Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         The insane have taken over the insane asylum.
         
         This goes for NY and many places with 'the West'.

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            tsmogposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Don't forget it was Regan who emptied the insane asylums or mental hospitals by pushing for the repeal of Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) back in '81, which some to many say lead to today's homeless crisis. Not saying good or bad, but just putting in place the setting.

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               Ken Burgessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

               I am in agreement with you...
               
               It doesn't make any difference who did it... it has lent to the degradation of society and civility.
               
               Just as making Transgenders a protected minority as well as a preferred hire based on Equity does harm to society and civility.
               
               The individual and their insanity (perception of reality) now can trump the norms of society, the needs of society, the best interests of agencies, corporations and institutions... based on where they place on the Equity scale, or for companies what their ESG score is.
               
               Insanity now trumps profits, wins, success, and accomplishments.

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                  Readmikenowposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                  "Don't forget it was Regan who emptied the insane asylums or mental hospitals by pushing for the repeal of Mental Health Systems Act of 1980"
                  
                  I think it's more complicated than blaming an act that occurred over 40 years ago for all of todays problems with homelessness.  Four decades is a LONG time to not think something else may be involved.

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                     Ken Burgessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                     It has evolved and become a compounding problem.
                     
                     I have seen how Hospitals deal with the constant cyclical nature of homeless  and mental ward patients that come in, get placed in the mental ward, or shipped to a hospital that has one...
                     
                     Then they are treated, released to an agency that evaluates them, that agency then releases them back onto the streets, where they do something again to get themselves picked up by the police, returned to a mental ward... processed... released... returned... processed... released.
                     
                     While others that can maintain more control, and are now functioning in our society... setting an excellent example for children to follow:
                     
                     
                     
                     

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                        Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                        Speaking of an excellent example for children to follow...
                        
                        https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/18 … 0766961115
                        
                        What kind of role model is Trump for children?  What type of moral leadership does he provide?

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                           Sharlee01posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                           I see where you're coming from. From my perspective, January 6th was a political protest where citizens, upset with the actions of their government, came to voice their concerns. Many may have viewed it as patriotic in nature, a stand for what they believed was right, even though it turned violent—a pattern we've seen in history where people, driven by strong convictions, have fought for causes they believed in, even when those actions escalated into violence.
                           
                           Comparing this to a transvestite reading to young children in school raises a different moral question. Some might see the protest as an expression of democratic rights, even if it became chaotic, while others may view the reading as potentially harmful content for children, questioning what is appropriate for young minds. Ultimately, it comes down to how we define harm—whether it's the violence that erupted on January 6th or concerns over what children should be exposed to in educational settings. Both situations reflect deeply held beliefs, but they're seen through different moral lenses.
                           
                           Where morals—and even religion—come into play is in how we view what is right or wrong, especially when it comes to shaping young minds. For me personally, I could explain January 6th to a child much easier than I could explain a lifestyle that is adverse to my own values. The moral and religious framework that guides us influences how we process these situations and decide what we think is appropriate for children to understand, making these discussions even more complex.

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                              Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                              It isn't a democratic right to beat police officers with flagpoles, fire extinguishers and crush them in doorways.
                              
                              
                              
                              But even Trump's penchant for calling others derogatory names seems in opposition to what most parents teach their children.  Things seem to have shifted though as we now see little monsters running around playgrounds taunting little girls with the "your body my choice" chant .  Are maga parents embracing the cruelty?
                              

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                        Sharlee01posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                        OMG! Thank you for reminding me of this sickening event.

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