I am absolutely furious. Two young adults were gunned down yesterday at a Jewish museum right here in the United States, not some foreign warzone, not a flashpoint overseas, but in our own backyard. This wasn't just a shooting. This was an act of targeted hatred, and it speaks to a dangerous, rising epidemic in our country: antisemitism. And let’s stop pretending it’s just random or fringe, because it’s not. It’s being normalized in our universities, our streets, and our so-called "activist" circles. We’ve all seen the protests, blocking highways, occupying campuses, spewing open hate while pretending it’s some noble cause. These aren’t peaceful calls for justice; they’re filled with violent chants, antisemitic slurs, and celebrations of terror. “From the river to the sea” is not some innocent slogan; it’s a genocidal message. And Jewish students, many of them barely adults, are being told to hide their identity, stay quiet, and avoid conflict because our institutions are too cowardly to protect them. These universities, places that should stand for tolerance and academic freedom, are too busy placating radical mobs to do anything meaningful. And when did we as a country decide that antisemitism is somehow acceptable just because it’s disguised as political protest?
Let’s call this what it is: hate. Raw, ideological, coordinated hate. And we should be outraged. Because if any other group were being hunted down, harassed on campus, or targeted in museums, this country would be up in arms. But when it’s the Jewish community, the silence is deafening. The hypocrisy from the left is staggering. These are the same people who claim to stand for human rights but can't even say a word when Jewish kids are told to "go back to Europe" or "you’re on stolen land." And while all this festers, one man has had the backbone to actually do something about it: President Donald J. Trump. He saw this coming. In his first term, he signed a powerful executive order extending Title VI protections to Jewish students facing discrimination, something no Democrat dared to touch. He moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, acknowledging reality and strengthening our alliance with Israel. He consistently called out antisemitism from both the far-right and the radical left. But now, in his second term, he’s going even further.
President Trump isn’t just talking. He’s acting hard. His administration has begun stripping federal funding from colleges that tolerate antisemitic harassment. If you're a university that allows hate to thrive, you're now being held financially accountable. He's expanded his original executive order to hold administrators personally responsible for ignoring or downplaying antisemitism. He created a dedicated DOJ task force focused solely on combating antisemitism on campuses across the country, and they’re already investigating schools where hate speech and threats have gone unpunished. Under Trump’s orders, the DOJ and DHS are prosecuting those who commit violence during these so-called “protests.” Blocking roads, threatening Jewish students, and glorifying terrorism, these are now being treated as crimes, not political expression. He’s also backing new legislation to allow immediate expulsion of students caught engaging in this behavior, and there’s now a public, online database that documents antisemitic incidents on college campuses, including naming the university officials who failed to act.
This is what leadership looks like. While Democrats trip over themselves worrying about "Islamophobia" and crafting carefully worded non-statements, President Trump is standing in the fire and telling it like it is. He’s not afraid to call this what it is: a crisis. He’s not backing down from the radical mob. And while the media wastes time tearing him apart over his tone or his tweets, he's the only one taking real steps to protect Jewish Americans. Every time a synagogue is guarded by police, every time a Jewish student is silenced, every time a museum becomes a murder scene, we should all feel ashamed. This is not about left or right anymore. This is about standing up for decency, safety, and moral clarity. Enough is enough. If you're not outraged right now, you’re not paying attention. We are losing our moral compass as a nation, and if we don't rise up now, if we don't say never again with our full chest and mean it, we will be having this same conversation again, only next time, the body count will be higher. This has to stop. And thank God, President Trump is actually doing something to make sure it does.
No, it speaks to an anger about how affairs in Gaza was managed by the Israeli government. In this society, expressing anger in this manner is nothing new.
Funny when Hispanic and black retail store customers are slaughtered like dogs, conservatives say that the attacks are just random and do not reflect a larger pattern. This time, it looks like the chickens have come home to roost. You conservatives only offer “prayer” as solace for hundreds slaughtered in schools and all areas of American life. Well, you know something, in a rightwing dream world of a society inundated with firearms, these things certainly can and do happen.
You conservatives are misdirecting as you always do, the issue as I have said before is not anti-semitism, but anti-Israeli government policy toward Palestinians in Gaza. Conservatives try to confuse people as the American electorate is known for not being very sophisticated. While, I don’t condone violence, I can see the perspective of Pro-Palestinian activism quite well. What conservative do, as always the very epitome of intolerance, is use these issues to cut off the right of free speech and dissent and I for one, wont have it without a brawl.
So, I can attack Israeli foreign policy and not be anti-Semitic, are your folks capable of making so fine a distinction? Or is there just more smoke and mirrors trying to get people to believe that they both are one and the same?
So, you are upset, well so am I, concluding with Jan 6th on Trump’s watch, where you people practically suffocate us with excuses playing down violence that far often comes from the Right in this country.
Non discrimination applies to everyone, but I did not agree that people should not be able to peacefully suppor Palestinian objectives contrary to the bigoted Trump agenda without conservatives turning this into to some sort of international intrigue.
Yes, it is about left and right, because when attacks came from the right you hid your heads in the ground like an ostrich.
Yes, in this current political milieu, I am pessimistic that America is in its decline.
I am paying attention and I only see feigned and selective outrage. Trump tell it like it is, yeah, “Sieg Heil”.
Thanks for taking the time to add your views. I will share another side of the coin.
You say it's about Gaza, not antisemitism, but when Jews are shot in an American museum, what exactly are they paying for? That wasn't a protest. That was a hate crime. That wasn't opposition to Netanyahu's policies. That was an execution of people based on their faith. You can try to intellectualize terrorism all you want, but when violence is aimed at Jews here at home, no amount of geopolitical spin makes it excusable.
You ask whether people can distinguish between criticism of Israel and antisemitism. I ask you this: can you distinguish between defending free speech and defending the glorification of terror? Because no one is banning criticism of Israeli policy. What people are condemning is the celebration of Hamas's atrocities, the harassment of Jewish students, and slogans that call for the eradication of an entire people. “From the river to the sea” doesn’t call for peace, it calls for a Juderein land. That’s not nuance. That’s eliminationism.
And yes, violence from the right has occurred, and it has been widely condemned. But the difference is, when the far right acts out, the media, academia, and politicians all rightfully denounce it. When the far left does, you get excuses like yours, as if murder is a form of misunderstood protest.
Your comment about “chickens coming home to roost” is vile. It's victim-blaming dressed up as political analysis. Slaughtering retail shoppers, worshipers, or museum visitors is not justice. And no, I won't be gaslit into thinking that this has anything to do with peaceful protest or thoughtful dissent. What we’re seeing is a moral failure by those too cowardly, or too ideologically blinded, to condemn evil when it targets Jews.
Trump may offend you, but he’s the only one who has taken meaningful, enforceable action to protect Jewish students and hold institutions accountable. That’s not fascism, that’s leadership. Your attempt to cheapen outrage at antisemitic violence by tossing around “Sieg Heil” says more about your argument than mine.
"You say it's about Gaza, not antisemitism, but when Jews are shot in an American museum, what exactly are they paying for? That wasn't a protest.
Does a violent individual represent the whole of those who protest for humane treatment of Palestinians?
I can borrow a quote to answer your question: "You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." Donald Trump
I find it strange to even be asked that question. I’ve always stood firmly in support of non-violent protest and have consistently rejected violence in any form. It’s unacceptable to me, and I would never try to justify or downplay it, unless someone is acting purely in self-defense against physical harm.
My thread is about two Jewish individuals who were murdered, and about the disturbing rise in antisemitism, something that should concern all of us. Yes, it touched on the protests related to Gaza, many of which, in my view, have not been peaceful or even legal. What truly sickens me is seeing people defend violence, make excuses for it, or avoid even engaging in the discussion when it’s brought up.
And what’s even more curious, and troubling, is that no one has even mentioned the two young Jews who were killed. Not a word. That silence speaks volumes.
I don't think anyone has defended violence or made excuses for violence. And I do think that it has been abundantly clear that when protests have turned ugly on campuses, they have been dealt with appropriately. It's interesting that many Jews feel like Trump is using anti-Semitism for political purposes.
https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israe … s-gosru2hk
https://www.wgbh.org/news/national/2025 … tisemitism
Just a few sources but there really are many. Particularly written from the perspective of students who are on these campuses.
Roughly 65% to 70% of Jewish Americans identify as or lean Democratic. So, it wouldn’t have been difficult to find many Jewish individuals who strongly oppose everything associated with Trump. There are also many Jews, as of recently, thanked Trump for working to bring the Gaza hostages home.
There have actually been several Jewish individuals and groups who have publicly thanked President Trump for helping bring hostages home from Gaza. Keith Siegel, an American-Israeli who was abducted from his home on Kibbutz Kfar Aza, shared a heartfelt video message saying, “President Trump, you are the reason I am home alive. You are the reason I was reunited with my beloved wife, four children, and five grandchildren. Thank you.” Another hostage, 20-year-old Israeli soldier Agam Berger, echoed that gratitude in a message Trump posted, saying, “Thanks to you, we are home. But we must remember that there are still people who truly depend on you and are waiting for you to save them.” The Jewish Federations of North America also released a public statement thanking President Trump for his strong stance against Hamas’s threats to stop hostage releases, calling it a “reprehensible threat” and praising his leadership. When several freed hostages and their families visited the White House, Keith Siegel again spoke on their behalf, expressing deep appreciation to both President Trump and his special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, saying, “They made a deal possible; they got us all home.” Additionally, Sasha Roytman, CEO of Combat Antisemitism, offered his thanks, saying, “Thank you, Mr. President, for feeling the anguish of the people of Israel and our commitment to bring all of the hostages home.” These aren’t small gestures, they reflect real, personal gratitude from people whose lives were directly impacted.
There’s always another side to every issue. While some Jewish individuals believe Trump is using concerns about antisemitism for political gain, others genuinely appreciate his actions and don’t share that view.
So, why do you think that 70 percent of Jews vote against trump. If he is their “savior” why don’t more support him?
I think Trump is using Jews as a "cover". He claims that his actions are addressing anti-semitism but they aren't about the Jews. He is using the pretext of protecting Jews to shield his policies from criticism, while advancing an agenda that most American Jews actually oppose. Most aren't falling for it.
The Jews have always been a resourceful people, I knew that they would not buy it and that is reflected in their voting patterns. They understand better than most the folly of supporting intolerance at any level and would not have anything to do with it regardless of Trumpism’s attempted sleight of hand.
I did not imply that Trump is their savior, in any respect. I was simply pointing out that all people are individuals, responding to Willow's comment regarding Jewish people.
Willowarbor wrote:
" It's interesting that many Jews feel like Trump is using anti-Semitism for political purposes." She offered good sources.
I was simply pointing out that some Jewish people support Trump, and I provided sources as examples of hostages who publicly thanked Trump for helping secure their release, and his support for them. I was attempting to share that all humans are individuals. It seems I am doing that frequently these days.
I can only share my view on why Jewish people have leaned more Democratic. I think jewish Americans have mostly voted Democrat over the years because of their history and values. Many came to the U.S., escaping persecution, and were drawn to parties that stood up for civil rights, minority protections, and social justice. A lot also live in cities, and tend to be socially liberal, so the Democratic Party has just felt like a natural fit. But that’s starting to change for some. More Jewish voters, especially Orthodox and Russian-speaking ones, are leaning Republican now. They’re concerned about rising antisemitism on the left, they like the GOP’s strong stance on Israel, and they often hold more traditional views on family and faith. So while Democrats still get the majority, the political divide among Jewish Americans is definitely growing.
Many came to the U.S., escaping persecution, and were drawn to parties that stood up for civil rights, minority protections, and social justice.
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So, what kind of people or party is opposed to these ideas?
I wouldn’t hold my breath believing that Black or Jews will ever seriously consider the Republican Party as a viable alternative to any of the issues that they are concerned about. The proof is in the pudding, so we will see.
Many came to the U.S., escaping persecution, and were drawn to parties that stood up for civil rights, minority protections, and social justice.Shar
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So, what kind of people or party is opposed to these ideas? Cred
I used to believe wholeheartedly in the ideals of civil rights, minority protections, and social justice, and I still do in principle. But over time, I’ve become disillusioned, not with the core values themselves, but with how they've been interpreted and weaponized in today’s political climate. What once aimed to ensure equality has too often turned into a rigid orthodoxy that divides instead of unites. Identity politics has morphed into a hierarchy of grievances, where victimhood is currency and people are judged more by group labels than by character or merit. Efforts to correct injustice have in some cases created new injustices, like when fairness is sacrificed in college admissions or hiring to meet diversity quotas rather than truly assess individual ability.
Moreover, the idea of "social justice" has been stretched to justify censorship, thought policing, and ideological conformity, often targeting those who simply question the prevailing narratives. Many of us haven’t abandoned the ideals; we just no longer recognize them in the way they’re practiced today. We want a society where everyone has equal opportunity, not equal outcomes enforced by coercive measures. We’ve seen the cost of policies that prioritize ideology over pragmatism, rising crime, educational decay, economic strain, and deep cultural resentment. The party or movement we once trusted to champion fairness has, in some eyes, lost its way. So when people say they’re stepping back from these causes, it's not because they oppose justice, it's because they believe justice has been hijacked.
I did not imply that Trump is their savor, in any respect, I simply was pointing out that all people are individuals, responding to Willow's comment regarding Jewish people.
Willowarbor wrote:
" It's interesting that many Jews feel like Trump is using anti-Semitism for political purposes."
I was simply pointing out that some support Trump with my reply, and offered examples of some of the hostages offering thanks to Trump for obtaining their relieace,
Ok, Sharlee, let me reiterate my side of the coin.
So, a crazy vengeful and what you conservatives always say, mentally ill person commits such a crime, why is it any different than the more lethal attacks that occurred from the Right side of the political spectrum in the past? This person was Hispanic and certainly was not Palestinian, so what was his beef besides being anti-Semitic? So, I agree, this man had an anti-semitic attitude. But the ones chanting against Jews and marching around at UV Charlottesville in 2017 were as defined by Trump, good people? What I think is that Trump is attacking liberals and progressives and using this anti-semitic stuff as a cover. Rather than standing up for Jews, Trump is more determined to attack the left, period. I don’t intellectualize terrorism, I am saying that it is universal and the worst of it has come from domestic right wing sources, it always does. When it is about violence aimed at blacks or Hispanics, the right wing press seems to play that down frequently.
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There can be a fine line between harassment and agitation vs. free speech, Trump does not distinguish between either, you are either part of his agenda or you are a terrorist.
We talk about atrocities, is Netanyahu innocent? Even Trump as brutal as he is talking about Netanyahu reining in some of the more extreme aspects of his policies.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/4 … -harms-all
This article speaks for me.
Trump and conservatives have been using this issue to attack dissent from their policies and it has nothing to do with anti-semitism as Trump clearly indicated back in 2017. That is the fine distinction that goes over the heads of conservatives. That offends me, that he does not have the same zeal for protecting anyone else as Trump is about Trump and that has nothing to do with principle.
I have thoughtful dissent and I see the Palestinian cause as having merit, while not supporting Hamas and its terrorism, the two are not one and the same.
My main point is that the murders of the two Jewish people is typical of American life and extremes, and is no different than the other murders of innocents across the nation. To make us all believe that these murders rise above all the others is most disingenuous.
Conservatives and right wing racists are not concerned about these sort of attacks on those that do not share their values, I have noticed that as well.
Trump IS a loathsome tyrant, but he is deceiving people by entering in through the back door.
I think there are a lot of different concepts at play here.
First you the gun problem in the US. About 49 people are shot and killed each day in the U.S. due to homicide. (compared with 11 a day in Europe).
It's far to easy to get a gun in the US.
Now the antisemitic problem. Antisemitism is here for thousands of years, even before the Christian church started. But for a long time the catholic church has had (and has) anti-Semitic tendencies. Also Fascism and communism are highly infected with antisemitism.
Basically the Jews have a huge population of the planet against them.
Now with the war in Gaza, all propaganda against the Jews is at full blast. And it is of no wonder that people get confused and some really completely nuts and starting to kill others because they are "different".
The war is Gaza is a terrible one. It is a clash of modern society (Israel) against barbarism (the faith of the death cult Hamas). Now some people only count the bodies and don't look at what the fight is all about. But that is to simple and not a measuring stick.
Compare the religious lunacy of the Islam compared with the Jews and you will definitely see the difference. Can you imagine a movie like "The Life of Brian" by Monty Python about the life of Mohamed? Such a movie would cause murders and putting the directors and filmstars and everybody working on the film on a death list. This simple thought experiment shows the backwater way of thinking by modarate islamists. And than what about extreme islamists? We see the result in the middle east. Where are the women's rights here, the rights for LGBTQ+ people? far gone.
So as I see it Israel is fighting for our modern values against a system and religion that lives with values of 500 years ago.
Now Trump. He just got a lovely new shiny plane. In other words, he is just as corrupt as can be. And if Hamas had more money that Israel he would follow Hamas.
I'm sure the crown prince of Saudi Arabia has given him some untraceable millions worth in his personal crypto valuta. And if Iran pays him too, just to stay out of the middle east he would except the money.
So no Trump is definitely not a good person to follow when looking for morally sound solutions.
Maga equates support for Palestinians as acceptance of Hamas but when Trump accepts a plane from Qatar, a nation who has funded and houses Hamas leadership, it's all okay... Nothing to see here.
I get where you are coming from, there’s a real frustration with perceived double standards, and I can also understand why someone might bring up Qatar in this context. But I don’t think it's as clear-cut as “MAGA equals Hamas supporter” or that everyone who defends Palestinians is being accused of supporting terrorism. That just oversimplifies a complex issue and misrepresents a lot of people’s views.
The reality is, many on the right, including me, who support Trump, don’t see Palestinians as helpless victims. They see them as a people who, for over 75 years, have repeatedly rejected peace deals and backed leaders and movements that openly call for the destruction of Israel. They see Hamas not as some fringe group, but as a symptom of a deeper ideology that has fueled ongoing conflict. So when someone criticizes “support for Palestinians,” it’s often not about hating the people, it’s about concern over who’s speaking for them and how often that leadership chooses violence over peace.
Now, about Qatar, yes, it’s true that Hamas leaders have been hosted there, and that Qatar has funded Gaza in various ways. But that doesn’t mean accepting a plane from Qatar equals supporting Hamas. Governments work with problematic allies all the time for strategic reasons. The U.S. has long maintained diplomatic and economic ties with countries that have serious human rights issues, not because we endorse everything they do, but because diplomacy and influence sometimes require it. If we're being honest, that applies to presidents from both parties, not just Trump.
So no, I don’t think this is hypocrisy in the way the comment implies. Many conservatives see a clear distinction between supporting humanitarian aid to Palestinians and supporting Hamas, just like they see a difference between engaging diplomatically with Qatar and endorsing its every move. And to flip the argument: just as not every pro-Palestinian voice is supporting terrorism, not every Trump supporter is ignoring the dangers of it either.
Many conservatives see a clear distinction between supporting humanitarian aid to Palestinians and supporting Hamas,
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That’s a dance around, I support the Palestinian grievances regarding the Israeli government so it is more that just “Humanitarian aid”, yet I still do not support Hamas and its methods.
I understand your point, but I stand by what I said, because the distinction I made isn’t a dance around, it’s a necessary line that many conservatives believe must be drawn with clarity and conviction. Supporting humanitarian aid to Palestinians means recognizing the real suffering of innocent civilians caught in a geopolitical nightmare, not endorsing a terrorist organization. The Palestinian people deserve basic human dignity, access to food, water, and safety. But let’s not pretend that every grievance, however legitimate it may appear, can be cleanly separated from the organizations that exploit them for violent ends. Hamas has hijacked the Palestinian cause, embedding itself in civilian areas, using people as shields, and redirecting aid to fund tunnels and rockets. So when some say, “I support Palestinian grievances,” I want to ask, grievances under whose leadership? Under what vision? Because the grievances themselves have been absorbed into the rhetoric of those who actively work to destroy Israel, not negotiate with it. We must deal with reality, not just ideals. Conservatives like me want to help people, but we will not ignore the dangerous ideologies that hide behind the language of resistance. Drawing that line isn’t avoidance, it’s discernment. And in today’s world, that’s more necessary than ever.
I appreciate that there are a lot of serious issues wrapped up in what you’re saying, and I agree with some of the concerns you raise. But I think we have to be careful not to let emotion or assumptions override nuance and facts.
On the topic of gun violence in the U.S., you're absolutely right, the numbers are staggering. Around 49 people dying per day due to homicide by firearm is deeply concerning, and I won’t argue against the idea that guns are more easily accessible in the U.S. than in many other developed nations. That said, the violence isn’t evenly spread across the country; it’s concentrated in certain areas and often tied to deeper social issues, so I think we need to look at the full picture beyond just access.
When it comes to antisemitism, I agree it’s a long-standing and disturbing problem. Historically, many institutions, including the Catholic Church and various political ideologies like fascism and communism, have contributed to antisemitic beliefs. But I don’t think it’s fair to say that "a huge population of the planet" is against Jews. That feels like an overgeneralization. Yes, antisemitism is real and resurging in many places, and we need to fight that, but there’s also a lot of global support for the Jewish community and a growing awareness of the need to stand against hate in all forms.
Regarding the war in Gaza, I think it's a mistake to frame the conflict as a pure clash between “modern society” and “barbarism.” That oversimplifies a situation that’s rooted in decades of history, political failures, occupation, terrorism, and human suffering on both sides. I fully condemn Hamas and its horrific actions, especially targeting civilians, but I also think it’s possible to criticize specific Israeli policies without being antisemitic, and to recognize the humanity of Palestinians without endorsing violence. We have to be able to hold more than one thought at a time.
As for Islam, I get what you’re trying to say with the Monty Python example, but I think it's dangerous to paint the entire religion or its followers with one broad brush. There are extreme elements within Islam, just like in other religions, but there are also millions of Muslims around the world who are peaceful, modern, and working to reform their communities. Saying even “moderate Islamists” think in a backwater way is just too sweeping. I know many Muslims who value women's rights, education, and freedom of thought, and they’re often the first to suffer under extremist rule.
The stuff about Trump look, I’m not here to defend everything he says or does, but I think it's unfair to assume he's taking bribes from foreign powers without evidence. Saying he’d support Hamas if they had more money or that he’s being paid off in secret cryptocurrency feels like a stretch. If you want to call out his policies or his conduct, there’s enough to work with based on facts. But when we slip into speculation like that, I think we risk weakening our arguments.
In the end, I think we have to challenge ourselves to look deeper, avoid lumping people into categories, and resist the urge to turn every complex issue into a good vs. evil narrative. It’s rarely that simple.
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